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ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Motto posted:

Aside from Lys on non-GD routes and Sylvain being potentially free, are there any units that are obvious utility gains for a given house in terms of shoring up holes or just being generally useful?

Felix is completely off the chain as far as physical offense goes.

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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Motto posted:

Aside from Lys on non-GD routes and Sylvain being potentially free, are there any units that are obvious utility gains for a given house in terms of shoring up holes or just being generally useful?

Ingrid is tailor made to be a Pegasus Knight and she will be promoted to that if you wait.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Eimi posted:

Ingrid is tailor made to be a Pegasus Knight and she will be promoted to that if you wait.

And in fact she is the only tailor-made pegasus knight in any of the three houses, which I thought was odd.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.


Make me proud, Ignatz.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Motto posted:

Aside from Lys on non-GD routes and Sylvain being potentially free, are there any units that are obvious utility gains for a given house in terms of shoring up holes or just being generally useful?

Dorothea is a near perfect slot in for your Dancer on GE and BL routes

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

LPG Giant posted:

Whenever I equip the Thyrsus magic item (gives extra magic range and chance to increase attack power) on Dorothea, she takes 10 damage after each attack. Is this intentional? It seems a bit extreme and makes the item basically useless on her.

Completely intentional. Relics require a compatible crest to use or they drain your HP. For Thyrsus, that means it belongs to either Lorenz or Lysithea.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Harrow posted:

Completely intentional. Relics require a compatible crest to use or they drain your HP. For Thyrsus, that means it belongs to either Lorenz or Lysithea.

Just having any Crest should let you use it without damage. Though I never got to test that out myself.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Ahaha, just did the Bernie/Petra paralogue, and there's an actual given reason why Bernadetta's favorite gift flower is the pitcher plant.

Because carnivorous plants get to just sit there and wait for their food to come to them. :v:

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

The Shortest Path posted:

Dorothea is a near perfect slot in for your Dancer on GE and BL routes

For some reason you have written down Dancer when her main role is to use meteor to deal with any pesky threats that you need dead but can't be bothered to get up close and personal with them. Also Marianne is a great character to get as she gets silence as a spell.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

I'm so glad none of this makes any sense and this game is structured in the way that without a guide, tea party is a crapshoot. THAT SURE IS FUN AND GOOD GAME DESIGN.

Leal posted:

Googling anything on this game is a pain in the dick cause the first 2 pages are all stuff by the same 4 or 5 game websites who I'm sure paid to be the top results for anything Three Houses related. Time to bookmark.

It's loving infuriating.

It's all a bunch of sites that have info that is "HEY! Tea time is something that can happen! That is all. The end." "Did you know you can fish?! Okay that's all we have to say!"

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Mordiceius posted:

It's loving infuriating.

It's all a bunch of sites that have info that is "HEY! Tea time is something that can happen! That is all. The end." "Did you know you can fish?! Okay that's all we have to say!"

Gotta rake in those clicks for ad revenue!!!

Capitalism is a disease.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Leal posted:

This but "Hello, I grew these for you. See you in class." Gotta get that motivation up somehow!

if my college professor dropped a bunch of beef jerky on me i'd feel motivated tbh

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Tea time isn't that complicated? Give them tea, answer questions in a way you'd think they'd like. The only problem is that your choice of options for the fourth question aren't very straight forward.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Question 4 is a whole bunch of bullshit tbh.

Smile, Nod, Sip Tea.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
jesus gently caress my byleth got speed screwed for chapter 13 when almost everything on the map doubles him and he still refuses to gain speed

and now i'm back in the home base post-timeskip and potential golden deer spoilers? ashe of all people vanished from my roster somehow :psyduck:

Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Aug 3, 2019

Axle_Stukov
Feb 26, 2011

Stylin'

Endorph posted:

there's a few characters that happens with. it's probably one of the more unfinished feeling things in the game, where there's guys that would be lategame prepromotes normally but i guess they didnt have time to record all the dialogue they'd need and such.

Yeah the timeskip reeks of sacrifices made to get all the other stuff they did get in, hopefully they can be patched in via DLC.

Arkeus
Jul 21, 2013
So, people have been saying we can recruit Hilda, but I never get a gift/etc choice with her. Is this because I have a gal Byleth and this is supposed to balance the free Sylvain or something?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

jesus gently caress my byleth got speed screwed for chapter 13 when almost everything on the map doubles him and he still refuses to gain speed

and now i'm back in the home base post-timeskip and potential golden deer spoilers? ashe of all people vanished from my roster somehow :psyduck:
do you remember what your support level with him was? ive heard talk byleth needs a certain level of support with people to keep them, but iunno if its b or c

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Endorph posted:

do you remember what your support level with him was? ive heard talk byleth needs a certain level of support with people to keep them, but iunno if its b or c

it was B, since B was the level i had to hit to poach him to begin with. same with all the other not-golden deer folks who actually returned

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Ytlaya posted:

Unrelated, but the part where Dedue is like (early support spoiler, nothing plot related)"yes, I would kill small children if Dimitri wanted me to" is kinda hosed up. Like, drat dude, that's not cool! Have trouble blaming Felix for his reaction.

That support is great! Felix may be an absolute rear end in a top hat but his supports with the others especially Dimitri and Dedue bring out such interesting parts of who they are well before the story starts getting into the serious issues. It's good stuff.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Me on my first playthrough: "Gosh, I dunno, poaching students from other houses seems like a dick move, wouldn't that hurt my relationship with other houses? I also don't trust all this church business, it's too dogmatic for my liking"

Me on my second playthrough: "I must take as many students as possible under my messianic wing, as the only way for my children to find salvation from the coming calamity is in my holy embrace"

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Aug 3, 2019

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

I for one am excited to kill my friends and feel really bad about it.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
So is Dancer lost forever if a male character does the dancing competition? I thought it would be funny to make Lorenz participate (and win) without thinking about the consequences lol

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Dancer isn't gender-locked

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

jesus gently caress my byleth got speed screwed for chapter 13 when almost everything on the map doubles him and he still refuses to gain speed

and now i'm back in the home base post-timeskip and potential golden deer spoilers? ashe of all people vanished from my roster somehow :psyduck:

This happened to me too; hoping for news of my pure cinnamon bun in future missions.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Deified Data posted:

So is Dancer lost forever if a male character does the dancing competition? I thought it would be funny to make Lorenz participate (and win) without thinking about the consequences lol

Males can be dancers. It's not a gender-locked class.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Golden Deer supports are kinda...there, compared to Black Eagles. I guess that's to be expected as the weed, third party house.

Notty
Jun 4, 2010

Arkeus posted:

So, people have been saying we can recruit Hilda, but I never get a gift/etc choice with her. Is this because I have a gal Byleth and this is supposed to balance the free Sylvain or something?

If you’re Black Eagles, you can seemingly only recruit Hilda if you (late BE spoilers) side with the Church. The moment you tell Edelgard no, all of the usual options should pop up the next time you talk to Hilda.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Tae posted:

Golden Deer supports are kinda...there, compared to Black Eagles. I guess that's to be expected as the weed, third party house.

They kind of kick into high gear after time smooths your somewhat one-note children into something more like a full human being with a broader perspective.

The stuff people say about Bernadette is also true of Marianne, who somehow became awesome. I love what the timeskip lets them do, including things like changed incidental dialogue.

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

Arkeus posted:

So, people have been saying we can recruit Hilda, but I never get a gift/etc choice with her. Is this because I have a gal Byleth and this is supposed to balance the free Sylvain or something?

Hilda is by far the hardest to poach out of all the students that are poachable, for some reason.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
I love my Golden Deer children. I'm raising them up right.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I'm only a couple months into my Golden Deer playthrough and I'm on track to have recruited basically everyone who can be recruited thanks to New Game Plus letting me instantly max out professor level

At the rate I'm going the Blues and Blacks won't have anyone on their team in the Gronder mock battle

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Rand Brittain posted:

This happened to me too; hoping for news of my pure cinnamon bun in future missions.

:smith::hf::smith:

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Rand Brittain posted:

They kind of kick into high gear after time smooths your somewhat one-note children into something more like a full human being with a broader perspective.

The stuff people say about Bernadette is also true of Marianne, who somehow became awesome. I love what the timeskip lets them do, including things like changed incidental dialogue.

I poached Marianne on my Eagles run, so I already know her deal. I didn't even realize some of the supports I was watching was B rank, because it was just more of C.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
So my stupidly overpowered Sylvain just one shot the death knight because he also has the lance of ruin. He's a big problem as far as the game being hard lol.

ZarquonHigardi
Mar 27, 2010

Notty posted:

If you’re Black Eagles, you can seemingly only recruit Hilda if you (late BE spoilers) side with the Church. The moment you tell Edelgard no, all of the usual options should pop up the next time you talk to Hilda.

You can get her before that. You gotta invite her for food or singing enough to get C-Rank Support before you can start throwing gifts at her and such.

The only clue that this might work is that she actually shows up in the Support list where as Dudue, Claude, and Dimitri (and Gilbert) do not.

It's weird and I have no idea why they did it that way.

lurksion
Mar 21, 2013

Harrow posted:

Also, when did those terrible sites start to pop up at first? I feel like I only started to notice poo poo like "Gamers Heroes" or whatever a couple years ago, but maybe they've been around longer than that. It feels like they all exploded into existence at once and now I can't google things about new games anymore.
Fornite & SEO basically pushed them all to the top. It's seriously annoying since they provide very shallow information.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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JBP posted:

So my stupidly overpowered Sylvain just one shot the death knight because he also has the lance of ruin. He's a big problem as far as the game being hard lol.

Lysithea just one shot the Death Knight the first time he appears with her anti-Horse spell, it was fantastic

Notty
Jun 4, 2010

ZarquonHigardi posted:

You can get her before that. You gotta invite her for food or singing enough to get C-Rank Support before you can start throwing gifts at her and such.

The only clue that this might work is that she actually shows up in the Support list where as Dudue, Claude, and Dimitri do not.

It's weird and I have no idea why they did it that way.

I did all of that like crazy and the only thing I ever got when I talked to her for months was the option to ask her for tea.

Like, I sat at C into ‘this bond will take time to develop’ B for months, and it wouldn’t give me the option to give her gifts or even get her as a temporary party member until after the spoiler.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Have you considered handing her a garbage bag full of flowers and then staring at her over tea for a few weeks

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