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Wendell
May 11, 2003

Miftan posted:

And then there's felix.

I can’t say for certain as I haven’t completed the game, but I feel like Felix really wants to connect to people but is afraid of the pain that can come from it. I like that characterization, if I’m right.

I like Gilbert a lot for a similar reason, he’s such a deeply flawed guy.

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Wendell posted:

I can’t say for certain as I haven’t completed the game, but I feel like Felix really wants to connect to people but is afraid of the pain that can come from it. I like that characterization, if I’m right.

I like Gilbert a lot for a similar reason, he’s such a deeply flawed guy.

Oh yeah they're all great. I'm on the last school chapter for blue lions now as my first run and I'm really looking forward to seeing everyone post timeskip.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

I'm not sure Felix really wants to connect with people but he definitely cares about them more than he wants to.

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk
I'm taking the day off from the game to get some work done and am trying to satisfy my craving to play with pure brain stuff. So a question:

Are the students the only ones that get new art/models after the time skip?

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
okay ashe is back at level 26, so a few below the rest of the pack but still higher than bernadetta and with better stats across the board too

also it was a missed opportunity to not have the soft archer boys support each other imo

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

OnimaruXLR posted:

Are the students the only ones that get new art/models after the time skip?

Unfortunately yeah. I was looking forward to Cool Mom Manuella Part 2

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

I feel like I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but why the hell isn't there an Advanced class for pegasus knights? What the hell am I supposed to do with Ingrid for the next 10 levels?

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I really dig Manuela's comments on aging after the timeskip. She's such a great character and I can't believe they made that archetype so awesome. Her VA did an amazing job, too.

What I do not like is that Cyril's support is mostly about affirming his devotion to his exploiter.

(In general dialogue choices seem to think the player is much more attached to Rhea than seems probable, at least on this path.)

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Regy Rusty posted:

I feel like I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but why the hell isn't there an Advanced class for pegasus knights? What the hell am I supposed to do with Ingrid for the next 10 levels?

me personally i just had her be claude's adjutant for story missions and have claude be hers for sidequests and now she's level 28

so on the cusp of promotion, 69% chance

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Yeah it would have been better if they had shown Rhea more actively supporting others rather than sitting in her room giving orders and having people executed

Maybe it was intentional since it looks like they're going to go the traditional JRPG "Church is corrupt and secretly behind all the world's problems" angle only to go in a different direction.

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Regy Rusty posted:

I feel like I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but why the hell isn't there an Advanced class for pegasus knights? What the hell am I supposed to do with Ingrid for the next 10 levels?

So I agreed at first but the time it takes to fully level a class is so long that by the time Ingrid hit 30, she had just mastered Pegasus and was ready to swap over. Also, she has the correct skill specialization to jump right in, whereas my Leonie is level 32 and she's not even close to being able to take one of the promotion exams

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
i got marianne to pass the holy knight certification but it's somewhat dubious to me whether canto and higher movement is worth being only able to use physic 5 times per map

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

maybe it's confirmation bias, but I passed certification exams the second time after I failed one, no matter the percentage

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

I recruited Ingrid from another house so I guess I can have her roll as soldier for a while on sidequests and stuff till she masters that and gets the defense +2 but it still kinda sucks cause she's mastered pegasus knight and would be all ready to jump to an advanced class at 20 if she could.

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

i got marianne to pass the holy knight certification but it's somewhat dubious to me whether canto and higher movement is worth being only able to use physic 5 times per map

Yeah now that the unit cap is up to 11 or sometimes 12 in paralogues, I've got Mercedes on permanent Physic duty just to enable my playstyle of having three units who tank every hit and then a backline of mages kill everything that bumps into my meat wall.

Also, Does Edelgarde's prologue have unlimited enemy reinforcements? It's turn 12 and Wyvern Knights have been pouring in every turn

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Carlosologist posted:

maybe it's confirmation bias, but I passed certification exams the second time after I failed one, no matter the percentage

Can confirm this is confirmation bias, Ashe missed his 30% chance to become a War Master like three times in a row.

Wendell
May 11, 2003

I don’t like that each chapter gets a nice introduction about the season, but you do not see these changes in the game. Like, put a big tree somewhere central and have it lose its leaves. Put some snow on the ground!

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time
Does anyone have a good way to use Manuela? Flayn isn't turning out for me on this run, and I adore Manuela and want to use her on my team, but being a mage who's bad at reason is pretty rough, and lacking Physic doesn't help.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

Does anyone have a good way to use Manuela? Flayn isn't turning out for me on this run, and I adore Manuela and want to use her on my team, but being a mage who's bad at reason is pretty rough, and lacking Physic doesn't help.

Step one: raise her faith until she learns warp
Step two: use manuela as a warpbot

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


oh wow Claude gets a second unique class

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I just realized that the sauna is never used for anything

Wendell
May 11, 2003

Fojar38 posted:

I just realized that the sauna is never used for anything

When they patch it in the game’s name on the title screen will suddenly change to Suikoden 6.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Wendell posted:

When they patch it in the game’s name on the title screen will suddenly change to Suikoden 6.

If only...

Wes Warhammer
Oct 19, 2012

:sueme:

waah posted:

Also, let's go full on synergy/corporate sell out and remake fire emblem 3 houses, but with the casts of Persona 3/4/5.

You'd all buy it.

but who would be the church equivalent :thunk:

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Fojar38 posted:

I just realized that the sauna is never used for anything

Well, no-one wants to go in.

There's an iguana in the sauna.

Because the school is secretly run by lizard people.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Fojar38 posted:

I just realized that the sauna is never used for anything

Anna has a lost item near it for her terrible secret shop.

It feels like the third floor of the monastery is also never used but that might just be if you're Black Eagles

Also man it definitely feels like there's a lot of plot threads that don't exactly get dropped but are strange.
As black eagles there's two generals - Randolph and Ladislava. They're with you for a bit and you see them in some battles as enemies on other paths.
Why do they exist? I genuinely don't get it

Taear fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Aug 4, 2019

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

Does anyone have a good way to use Manuela? Flayn isn't turning out for me on this run, and I adore Manuela and want to use her on my team, but being a mage who's bad at reason is pretty rough, and lacking Physic doesn't help.

She came ready made to use the Levin sword so ive just leanes into sword and faith. It woeks well but I have a million mages so she only sees periosic use.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

waah posted:

The answer to tournaments is always Dedue.

Always.

Also, let's go full on synergy/corporate sell out and remake fire emblem 3 houses, but with the casts of Persona 3/4/5.

You'd all buy it.
i literally wouldnt

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

also for ingrid just teach her a bit o riding and make her a paladin for the advanced class, or teach her axes and make her a wyvern rider

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Taear posted:

Anna has a lost item near it for her terrible secret shop.

It feels like the third floor of the monastery is also never used but that might just be if you're Black Eagles

Also man it definitely feels like there's a lot of plot threads that don't exactly get dropped but are strange.
As black eagles there's two generals - Randolph and Ladislava. They're with you for a bit and you see them in some battles as enemies on other paths.
Why do they exist? I genuinely don't get it

To give bosses that aren't students because students can be poached.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
I ended up keeping ingrid in wyvern even for her master class. She needs boosts in the wyvern stats more than in the pegasus stats

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Taear posted:

Anna has a lost item near it for her terrible secret shop.

It feels like the third floor of the monastery is also never used but that might just be if you're Black Eagles

Also man it definitely feels like there's a lot of plot threads that don't exactly get dropped but are strange.
As black eagles there's two generals - Randolph and Ladislava. They're with you for a bit and you see them in some battles as enemies on other paths.
Why do they exist? I genuinely don't get it

I presume they fill out the ranks on that side in case you recruit every other character.

Arkeus
Jul 21, 2013

Regy Rusty posted:

I recruited Ingrid from another house so I guess I can have her roll as soldier for a while on sidequests and stuff till she masters that and gets the defense +2 but it still kinda sucks cause she's mastered pegasus knight and would be all ready to jump to an advanced class at 20 if she could.

My plan for her is to get her riding high enough that she does a small bifurcation on Paladin. I might even put her back to Pegasus Knight once her base stats have been increased to make it 'easier' to get Flying high enough at level 30, but Paladin growth is probably much better than Pegasus (well, except for speed, so that depends where my speed is at).

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I just kept her as a pegasus rider until 30 and she never once let me down.

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy
Doing a golden deer run and my gurl Lysithea has 27 Magic at level 18. gently caress hubert, she's obliterating death knight like its nothing

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Rand Brittain posted:

I presume they fill out the ranks on that side in case you recruit every other character.

They seem weird choices, why not use people's parents instead? Fighting Caspar or Felix's dad would seem to mean more.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Doing a golden deer run and my gurl Lysithea has 27 Magic at level 18. gently caress hubert, she's obliterating death knight like its nothing

The biggest issue she has is the lack of any 1-3 range magic.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Hunt11 posted:

The biggest issue she has is the lack of any 1-3 range magic.

Good thing her relic gives +2 range to all spells

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Peg knights actually hurt, wow.

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HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy
Imo theres too many masterclasses that are riders and not enough that are foot soldiers. If they're not some sort of knight, well congrats youre just gonna be a mortal saint or a gremory

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