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Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

What's the deadline on recruiting? I'd like to hold off for as long as I can to get the free levels cause most folks will be bench warmers once they join up.

Edit: also, there's no spammable way to raise supports between characters other than Byleth, right?

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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Skippy McPants posted:

What's the deadline on recruiting? I'd like to hold off for as long as I can to get the free levels cause most folks will be bench warmers once they join up.

Month 2 if you're on Edie's route, Month 3 for all others.

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

Skippy McPants posted:

What's the deadline on recruiting? I'd like to hold off for as long as I can to get the free levels cause most folks will be bench warmers once they join up.

Edit: also, there's no spammable way to raise supports between characters other than Byleth, right?

Not unless you count parking their dumb asses next to each other GBA-era style while you fight in repeatable battles.

Which is a shame, cause their bickering and flailing is charming enough to make me want to poach everyone possible. They are all my stupid war babies and -they need me.-

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Drakenel posted:

Not unless you count parking their dumb asses next to each other GBA-era style while you fight in repeatable battles.

Which is a shame, cause their bickering and flailing is charming enough to make me want to poach everyone possible. They are all my stupid war babies and -they need me.-

You can have them sing and eat meals together for a boost in every exploration period. That helps, at least.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
Yeah the way supports seem to raise in battle is that it affects the characters directly next to the person attacking/being attacked as well as anyone else who is within attack range of the enemy unit.

This makes it really easy to level Sniper/Bow Knight supports because as long as they're even remotely near someone they'll gain supports. My Bernadetta ended up with more A supports than Byleth.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Being willing to turn your entire monthly income into gifts doesn't hurt either, before you get enough points that you can just eat your way to friendship.

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

chiasaur11 posted:

You can have them sing and eat meals together for a boost in every exploration period. That helps, at least.

Sure, but those aren't 'spammable'. Though you should absolutely do them whenever you can for recruitment purposes.

Notty
Jun 4, 2010

Skippy McPants posted:

Edit: also, there's no spammable way to raise supports between characters other than Byleth, right?

It’s not ‘spammable’ but things like Choir Practice, Meal Sharing, and Group Tasks raise support pretty quickly, and there doesn’t appear to be a very high threshold for non-Byleth supports, so if you focus on a pair you should be able to max them out pretty quick, especially if you toss one as an Adjutant to the other.

edit: lol beaten like three times

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

I'm pretty disappointed that it feels like so many A supports are romantic. It kind of ruins the impact when a character has already told 6 other people that they want them to come stay by their side forever.

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
Question about part 2 went with Edel to burn it all down. Exploring the monastery after my 5 year nap and I’m not seeing anyone to train Byleth in flying. Am I just out of luck getting her up to Falcon knight? Currently an E in flying.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

I saw some people saying there's a NG+

What carries over because I can't imagine it's much? Honestly my biggest gripe with the game on replays is the thought of having to do the slice of life school stuff over and over and over again each time I want to play it. Hell I'm on chapter 17 of edelgards route and I'm already starting to get the "ugh can I just skip this now" feel.

Really wanna play more of the other paths but the school has officially worn out it's welcome for me.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Yeah, I say "spammable" because that seems like the only reasonable way to fill the support logs of the three house leaders. They can only gain supports on their respective playthroughs, so it seems like maxing them out would be a tremendous pain in the rear end.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Ethiser posted:

I'm pretty disappointed that it feels like so many A supports are romantic. It kind of ruins the impact when a character has already told 6 other people that they want them to come stay by their side forever.
S Supports had it worse where it often felt like non-romantic supports just awkwardly made the jump to romantic. This method at least feels more reasonable since they're young enough and in enough stress that you can imagine it as just a bunch of flirting around until they actually settle down with someone.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

I saw some people saying there's a NG+

What carries over because I can't imagine it's much? Honestly my biggest gripe with the game on replays is the thought of having to do the slice of life school stuff over and over and over again each time I want to play it. Hell I'm on chapter 17 of edelgards route and I'm already starting to get the "ugh can I just skip this now" feel.

Really wanna play more of the other paths but the school has officially worn out it's welcome for me.

NG+ Info.

The biggest thing is that you can buy professor and support levels with renown, although supports are hella expensive. Still, starting out with Prof. B+ or so should ease the grind a ton.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Save your renown to buy professor levels with NG+ and you can have the entire poachable student body in your house by the time you're halfway through year one

All things flow from how many actions you can take per week and that is entirely from Professor level. Max out Prof level and everything else will follow

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
There's a tip that you shouldn't raise it straight to A+ because some renown is tied to gaining prof levels.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Also, renown spent on unlocking levels and supports isn't refunded on future playthroughs, which is a huge bummer since the stuff is pretty expensive and you don't get that much renown out of a full run.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Tae posted:

There's a tip that you shouldn't raise it straight to A+ because some renown is tied to gaining prof levels.

That was someone confusing professor points with renown. No renown is gained from rasing professor levels.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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What's the deal with male Byleth's coat

It looks like a typical cloak with the sleeves going unused but on closer inspection he is actually wearing the cloak properly but instead of putting his arms in the sleeves there is a hole in them that he sticks his arms through instead

I get that it's because it looks cool but this is going to drive me nuts now

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


I mean if you can start a game with A or higher prof level I don't see supports being a problem at all. So no reason to unlock supports right away.

Also quick question about Black Eagles Edie chapter 14 battle there is no way to spare Hilda, right? I can't find a safe way to bait her in and get the professor to attack her without restarting and well...with her relic she one shots anyone she hits. I can bait her into my mage killbox safely but that would kill her. Granted if I can't spare her, her fault for fighting to the death.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Eimi posted:

I mean if you can start a game with A or higher prof level I don't see supports being a problem at all. So no reason to unlock supports right away.

Also quick question about Black Eagles Edie chapter 14 battle there is no way to spare Hilda, right? I can't find a safe way to bait her in and get the professor to attack her without restarting and well...with her relic she one shots anyone she hits. I can bait her into my mage killbox safely but that would kill her. Granted if I can't spare her, her fault for fighting to the death.

No, you have to avoid her on your way to Claude or just kill her

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Zore posted:


No, you have to avoid her on your way to Claude or just kill her


whelp, my only flyer is Ingrid, so I guess there's no choice. Shame.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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this lost item must belong to someone who wears glasses

goes to the only guy confirmed to not wear glasses

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Eimi posted:

whelp, my only flyer is Ingrid, so I guess there's no choice. Shame.

At least some of the death quotes are funny in a bittersweet way

Bernie ended up a casualty in my previous playthrough and she seemed more annoyed than sad at getting killed, mostly because it was on a "stupid battlefield" instead of in her room

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Fojar38 posted:

What's the deal with male Byleth's coat

It looks like a typical cloak with the sleeves going unused but on closer inspection he is actually wearing the cloak properly but instead of putting his arms in the sleeves there is a hole in them that he sticks his arms through instead

I get that it's because it looks cool but this is going to drive me nuts now

That is exactly the deal with Byleth's coat, both male and female.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Fojar38 posted:

At least some of the death quotes are funny in a bittersweet way

Bernie ended up a casualty in my previous playthrough and she seemed more annoyed than sad at getting killed, mostly because it was on a "stupid battlefield" instead of in her room

Yeah I already saw it, and...I guess it's silly just being sad at a unit with a death quote when no problem just assassinating faceless Alliance generals. :v: I don't even particularly like them, but I did have them at B support.

Also it's a bit silly that no one surrenders. Like I can understand why the Kingdom wouldn't surrender to Edie, but the Alliance? Fighting to the death for them just seems there to enforce the pathos of killing those you knew.

Eimi fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Aug 4, 2019

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

"i am absolutely disinterested in spending any time with you"

fuckin' tell him Lysithea.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Also to totally double post, I asked at the bottom of the last page but is Armored Lord Edie's only personal class? I thought she got one that let her cast magic and I even raised her reason some for that reason.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Eimi posted:

Also to totally double post, I asked at the bottom of the last page but is Armored Lord Edie's only personal class? I thought she got one that let her cast magic and I even raised her reason some for that reason.

She gets another one.

I actually beat the game without ever noticing that it could cast spells, but people say it can.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Eimi posted:

Yeah I already saw it, and...I guess it's silly just being sad at a unit with a death quote when no problem just assassinating faceless Alliance generals. :v: I don't even particularly like them, but I did have them at B support.

Also it's a bit silly that no one surrenders. Like I can understand why the Kingdom wouldn't surrender to Edie, but the Alliance? Fighting to the death for them just seems there to enforce the pathos of killing those you knew.

I dunno how it would be with the Black Eagles considering the nature of your actions changes radically in that route compared to the other two but the impression I got from my Blue Lions playthrough is that if you poached them in part 1 and they didn't immediately rejoin after the timeskip, if you beat them on the field you can choose to kill them or to persuade them to join your side. I do not know if this happens regardless of how you beat them or if it requires Byleth to be the one to defeat them.

Dr. Carwash
Sep 16, 2006

Senpai...

Fojar38 posted:

a lot of people are not good at video games

I'm assuming that most goons who post in games are between the ages of 20 and 40 or so so it's important to remember that a lot lot lot of people who you play video games with online, both directly and indirectly are also literal children

I'd say most people probably don't look online to find the busted units. Having Felix alone is playing the game on easy mode because he can cut a path through any stage pretty much by himself. The only time I've used divine pulse is when I'm going too fast and didn't realize one of my mages/healers was in range of a pegasus half way across the map.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

BE-Edelgard Chapter 12
Thanks, AI, for throwing yourselves at Catherine
glad I bothered trying to save you three, really made it all worth while!


Please tell me I didn't miss out on anything cool by having all these bozos suicide themselves into someone I couldn't possible get to before the death stampede happened. And judging by how dodgy catherine was and how many divine pulses I burned I don't think I'd have been able to beat her before then either

panascope
Mar 26, 2005

I put Edelgard on Fortress Knight and she hasn't taken damage since. What a class.

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

Dr. Carwash posted:

I'd say most people probably don't look online to find the busted units. Having Felix alone is playing the game on easy mode because he can cut a path through any stage pretty much by himself. The only time I've used divine pulse is when I'm going too fast and didn't realize one of my mages/healers was in range of a pegasus half way across the map.

I'm not sure if your Felix maxed out on defense, but when the late game turns into rocket tag with enemies him going solo is basically suicide.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

rannum posted:

BE-Edelgard Chapter 12
Thanks, AI, for throwing yourselves at Catherine
glad I bothered trying to save you three, really made it all worth while!


Please tell me I didn't miss out on anything cool by having all these bozos suicide themselves into someone I couldn't possible get to before the death stampede happened. And judging by how dodgy catherine was and how many divine pulses I burned I don't think I'd have been able to beat her before then either


You didn't miss anything.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Dimitri gets both Battalion Vantage and Battalion Wrath from leveling his authority.

:getin:

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Man, Lorenz is a prick, huh

Does he get depth like Sylvain?

Inflammatory
Apr 22, 2014

inthesto posted:

Man, Lorenz is a prick, huh

Does he get depth like Sylvain?

yes.

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Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Any hot strats for beating Death Knight in chap 4? Knightkeeler kinda works, but he doubles and kills all my units

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