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FoneBone
Oct 24, 2004
stupid, stupid rat creatures

Barry Convex posted:

who gives a gently caress, what actual harm is it causing DSA IRL

also what is this referring to

https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1158025232998965249?s=21
think that was in response to the failure of the “no one is too poor to be in good standing” amendment

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apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

wow a good tweet somehow. yeah this is the biggest problem i see among so many socialists, not just dsa but everywhere. they look to the party or the organization to just do poo poo while they are members but reality is if youre a revolutionary then youre the organizer, youre the one who is responsible for poo poo, youre the one who has to do the work. or even better they endlessly poo poo talk every party, union, and organization for being wrong about this or that while they sit on social media all day making hot takes

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

uncurable mlady posted:

hot take, if you have a disability that makes you incapable of functioning in a loud room then maybe you should experience the conference through a live stream rather than in person?

or maybe don't run/volunteer to be a delegate at the one big convention we have every 2 years? Like 1,500 out of the 67,000 members go.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

FoneBone posted:

think that was in response to the failure of the “no one is too poor to be in good standing” amendment

I just need this clarified for my own sake, does this mean "if you can't afford dues, you aren't automatically suspended/on probation/whatever"?

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


Did a delegate confirm that there was an onsite room with a video feed and audio control to enable voting, because if so then the problem was already solved before the dude got to the mic

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



apropos to nothing posted:

wow a good tweet somehow. yeah this is the biggest problem i see among so many socialists, not just dsa but everywhere. they look to the party or the organization to just do poo poo while they are members but reality is if youre a revolutionary then youre the organizer, youre the one who is responsible for poo poo, youre the one who has to do the work. or even better they endlessly poo poo talk every party, union, and organization for being wrong about this or that while they sit on social media all day making hot takes

i remember before i moved, the breaking point of me just up and quitting DSA was a woman who demanded more gender representation in a committee i was in. i invited her to join our committee during the meeting. she made a point of walking over to me after we adjourned and started yelling at me that what i did was disrespectful because "her time is more valuable than joining another committee"

the most aggravating fuckin thing is trying to approach someone in good faith, follow up with them regarding a concern they voiced, and then getting some sort of bullshit like "you trying to make me fix the problem i identified is emotional labor"

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Business Gorillas posted:

i remember before i moved, the breaking point of me just up and quitting DSA was a woman who demanded more gender representation in a committee i was in. i invited her to join our committee during the meeting. she made a point of walking over to me after we adjourned and started yelling at me that what i did was disrespectful because "her time is more valuable than joining another committee"

the most aggravating fuckin thing is trying to approach someone in good faith, follow up with them regarding a concern they voiced, and then getting some sort of bullshit like "you trying to make me fix the problem i identified is emotional labor"

yeah theyre just wreckers. i dont even mean like they set out to wreck poo poo though some of them prolly do, they just do it because their personalities are so toxic. they also usually have radical liberal ideas and focus exclusively on issues of identity but never in a materialist sense but always in vague language and ideas. point of everything is to identify privilege or make things more accessible for people with disabilities or problems that aren't even present in the space at the moment. any loose or easy to join organization has them and they destroy movement work.

thicc_waluigi
Jan 5, 2019



I agree with most of this but the idea that antifascism is only street fighting feeds into right wing talking points.

Unless there was a literal street fighting working group formed, in which case carry on

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

DSA delegate bubble boy

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

thicc_waluigi posted:

I agree with most of this but the idea that antifascism is only street fighting feeds into right wing talking points.

Unless there was a literal street fighting working group formed, in which case carry on

we have an ongoing government ethnic cleansing operation going on. I dont think matching up with right wing talking points is a big concern

slicing up eyeballs posted:

Did a delegate confirm that there was an onsite room with a video feed and audio control to enable voting, because if so then the problem was already solved before the dude got to the mic

is it ableist to say if you cant be in a big room with a ton of people you shouldn't have run as a delegate

thicc_waluigi
Jan 5, 2019


Larry Parrish posted:

we have an ongoing government ethnic cleansing operation going on. I dont think matching up with right wing talking points is a big concern
I was just taking the roundabout way of saying that anti-fascist organizing is more than just punching Nazis, though that's a crucial part.

Captain Queernabs
Dec 25, 2005

Fig. 1: bonehorse
Pillbug

Business Gorillas posted:

i remember before i moved, the breaking point of me just up and quitting DSA was a woman who demanded more gender representation in a committee i was in. i invited her to join our committee during the meeting. she made a point of walking over to me after we adjourned and started yelling at me that what i did was disrespectful because "her time is more valuable than joining another committee"

the most aggravating fuckin thing is trying to approach someone in good faith, follow up with them regarding a concern they voiced, and then getting some sort of bullshit like "you trying to make me fix the problem i identified is emotional labor"

this is a real thing and it sucks rear end

thicc_waluigi
Jan 5, 2019


Doctor Jeep posted:

DSA delegate bubble boy

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Business Gorillas posted:

I don't know this person or what theyre up to, but every time Ive seen their posts itt it's just whining and extreme griping about how "I'm embarrassed" this and "I'm disgusted" that. I don't care what this person is saying because all I've seen them do is complain and use some pretty drastic language in doing so.
then stop caring or posting about it jesus loving christ

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

you (radicalbruja tweet) vs. the guy she said not to worry about (antifa resolution passing)

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

then stop caring or posting about it jesus loving christ

If they aren't an actual leader they're at least a face of the DSA. Like it or not, people are going to judge the organization based on what they say and do and being a passive agressive bitch on twitter over every vote is not a good look.

FoneBone
Oct 24, 2004
stupid, stupid rat creatures
https://twitter.com/shes_so_red/status/1158070580668698625?s=21

did 70/30 dues sharing pass?

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Sauce is my favorite NPC

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Tawny Tidwell a fairly close second

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


so the two build people involved with the RL stuff didnt get in eh. unless theyre the collective known as "Sauce"

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

sauce

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Little Tawny Tidwell mouse
lived in a little house
they stole fishes
from other folx ditches
and called it
"sharing dues"

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Who the gently caress is Sauce and why are they too cool for having a last name at least. What, they got warrants out or something?

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Calibanibal posted:

Little Tawny Tidwell mouse
lived in a little house
they stole fishes
from other folx ditches
and called it
"sharing dues"

lol

FoneBone
Oct 24, 2004
stupid, stupid rat creatures
looks like momentum/spring/B&R lost a lot of ground, thank loving god

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


The mysterious figure known only as Sauce takes off his mask to gasps of horror: it's danny fetonte!!

"it me DSA, it was me all along!"

CaptainJuan
Oct 15, 2008

Thick. Juicy. Tender.

Imagine cutting into a Barry White Song.
Sean, sauce, and the two jens are great, I'm neutral on the rest

CaptainJuan has issued a correction as of 19:25 on Aug 4, 2019

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CaptainJuan posted:

Sean sauce and the two jens are great, I'm neutral on the rest

Oh is that Sean persons nickname lol. Whoever wrote the slide doesnt know how your supposed to write nicknames I guess

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

i like dave

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug

Larry Parrish posted:

Who the gently caress is Sauce and why are they too cool for having a last name at least. What, they got warrants out or something?

She's LSC / Build affiliated, and uses a pseudonym, I guess for OPSEC or job related reasons? I dunno, taking a national position in the largest socialist org in the US feels like something people in your work life are gonna find out about eventually

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
sauce is a white lady sauce is her twitter handle I think, I'm in a group chat with her, maybe it's her real name too? idk

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

so the two build people involved with the RL stuff didnt get in eh. unless theyre the collective known as "Sauce"

sauce is forums poster chicken of tomorrow, yikes!!

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

banned poster white sauce.....m. congratulations

CaptainJuan
Oct 15, 2008

Thick. Juicy. Tender.

Imagine cutting into a Barry White Song.

Larry Parrish posted:

Oh is that Sean persons nickname lol. Whoever wrote the slide doesnt know how your supposed to write nicknames I guess

I suppose I should have used commas.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Sauce is gonna have to put her full legal name on 501c4 forms btw lmao

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

I thought one of the biggest gripes people had about the NPC was transparency and now we got someone who goes by a nick name on the NPC? yeah, ok

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

nom de guerre

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
one of the jens is a legit sociopath, so this is gonna be cool

jarofpiss posted:

nom de guerre

nom de merde

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Dave Pinkham is very nice and cool

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

in terms of cadre names Sauce is definitely in need of improvement

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