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Cool command line tip: setting the DOOMWADDIR environment variable makes it so you can keep all of your WADs in one place but still easily launch them from several different source ports without having to use the full path every time. Also makes it so that if you reorganize things later you can just update the path in the variable instead of having to edit any batch files you may have made.
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:Cool command line tip: setting the DOOMWADDIR environment variable makes it so you can keep all of your WADs in one place but still easily launch them from several different source ports without having to use the full path every time. Also makes it so that if you reorganize things later you can just update the path in the variable instead of having to edit any batch files you may have made. I just use a launcher. I have no patience for this hacker nonsense 
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Aug 4, 2019 18:02
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It just feels so wrong to not get dropped back to a command prompt when I exit Doom to change WADs.
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Alright, cleared Verdant Citadel: Spectacular map, in terms of how well it uses its non-linearity, to say nothing of its visuals. Pretty breezy in terms of difficulty, though that's not a bad thing at all; the only times I really felt threatened during the run was when I went into the well, and on the final floor of the elevator fight (the relative lack of cover in that fight forced me into a corner, which I actually liked). Managed to get through the whole thing without dying, regardless. Certainly a map very generous with its ammo and health, and that's without finding even half of the secrets available. Only a couple real quibbles I can think of. First, as noted before, the music stood out as incongruous with the rest of the map. This was certainly a map that could've gone with some upbeat tracker music, rather than buttmetal. Secondly, the ending was a little abrupt. I would've at least liked to get closer to the cave's exit before it faded to black!
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Aug 4, 2019 18:18
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 Finished VC again. The non-linearity and spacing of the map to allow me to maneuver to defeat large groups of enemies was why I really liked this map. Although the first time I played I didn't get the SSG until near the end which made things much harder for me. The elevator ride was a highlight along with that tunnel area with the plasma gun. On second play I did notice that the music was a little too heavy especially once you went back to areas already cleared.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:31
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 ITS VOTING TIME Five options, you can vote for any and all that you would want to play. You could vote for the one map you want the most, or the few that you prefer to the others. If we have a tie I'll select randomly from those with the most votes. https://www.strawpoll.me/18424153 In addition, we will continue to have bonus single map wads every weekend. Sunlust Nominated by: Einwand, others 32-map Doom 2 megawad designed to be played from pistol start. This mod received one of the 2015 Cacowards on Doomworld and features a custom soundtrack.   Ancient Aliens Nominated by: Zaphod42 32-map Doom 2 megawad with lots of custom textures and strong themes. This mod received one of the 2016 Cacowards. It is a parody of alien conspiracy theories, particularly those from the TV show of the same name. The WAD features a large range of custom textures and a new palette allowing for radically different visual styles to what is usually seen in PWADs.   Stardate 20X6 Nominated by: Einwand 8 doom2 maps focusing on the color purple, because most maps don't! The levels meander through underground and space-station themes, and are filled with all sorts of abstract violet goodness. Much of the gameplay resembles the arena style typically found in slaughtermaps, but the monster counts (in general) aren't overwhelmingly high.   Rush Nominated by: DisDisDis Set of 12 doom2 slaughterish maps. Blast through tech bases, winter maps, hellish keeps and structures in the Void. Good introduction to slaughtermaps. I couldn't find screenshots of this map so I just downloaded it and played through the first map and it was both really cool looking and also pretty fun to blast through!   Going Down Nominated by: Dieting Hippo 32-level megawad for Doom II released by Cyriak, featuring its own original soundtrack by the same author and a custom DeHackEd boss monster. This mod received one of the 2014 Cacowards. Absolute insanity, some of the craziest poo poo I've seen in Doom wads, as you would expect from loving Cyriak.   THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE Whatever we don't select will go back into the WAD hopper and will show up again.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:36
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sunlust, aa, and going down in one vote, youre killing me
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Aug 4, 2019 18:38
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Zaphod42 posted:Weird yeah. I'd try a fresh install. You could also try to skip ZDL and drag the wad onto the .exe or use a shortcut and command line argument or straight up command line that poo poo if you're not using a bunch of wads. Yup, sorted out the filenames. Spectacular map, it's shockingly beautiful (though I can probably count on one hand the custom Doom maps I've played in my life, so this thread is definitely opening up a new world). Cyberdemon probably killed me at least 15 times, but that's just lack of zigzagging expertise. HMP was just the right difficulty for me.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:51
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I vote Sunlust. I'll vouch for Ancient Aliens and Going Down for anyone who's on the fence about voting for those. They are top-tier and I wouldn't mind giving either of them another go if they win. Edit: It was a close match between Sunlust and Stardate 20X6 for me. The aesthetics of 20X6 are just beautiful but I'm weary of the "almost like a slaughtermap" description. Mak0rz fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Aug 4, 2019 |
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Aug 4, 2019 18:53
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I have pending to play sunlust and going down, so I voted both.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:00
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Turin Turambar posted:I voted both. Dammit I didn't know I could do this 
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Aug 4, 2019 19:07
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People voting for Sunlust should know that it's a full megawad of slaughtermaps. Starbase and Rush are also pretty slaughter-y, so this is a fairly high-octane set of maps all told.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:10
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voted sunlust, aa, going down, and stardate but the only one i havent actually played before is stardate
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Aug 4, 2019 19:13
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Arivia posted:People voting for Sunlust should know that it's a full megawad of slaughtermaps. No!!! 
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Aug 4, 2019 19:18
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Mak0rz posted:No!!! I’m honestly really surprised to see it pop up so early in the club’s run. It’s a megawad I’ve been wanting to play for ages, but I haven’t felt capable enough to try it out. I’m worried it would be offputting to newer/less experienced doomers (that said, it does have difficulty setting support).
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Aug 4, 2019 19:25
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AA is excellent but I had to vote for Going Down just based on how much it comes up in the other thread, I need to see it myself
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Aug 4, 2019 19:25
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Voted Going Down cause I haven't ever done it. Also, finished VC on Ultra-Violence. It was a great map, and just when I thought I didn't know where to go I'd see monsters walk out from a new area. I forgot I had the orange key when I was dropping off the purple one but thankfully I used the orange spot anyway. Only died 2 times and thought it was fair the whole time. 
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Count me in for Sunlust, Ancient Aliens is incredible but I haven't finished it yet so now might be the perfect time Finished Verdant Citadel, what a wild ride, 9/10  A pretty good challenge on UV, this map had a ton of interesting encounters and I ate poo poo to that Cyberdemon a few times trying to bait him into infighting, and I just barely squeezed by with the Archvile toward the end. That elevator at the end was a cool touch and that music was dope. Great architecture with some Quake-like halls and poo poo, and it was tense running into monsters just following you all over the place. One hell of a good level. full playthrough here so feel free to tell me i suck at doom or whatever https://www.twitch.tv/videos/462507664#%23 fake edit: should we spoiler traps in maps and poo poo, I dont want to give away "fun" surprises for people fake edit x2: what's the preferred sector light setting in gzDoom, I spend a lot of time on Software these days
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Good soup! posted:Count me in for Sunlust, Ancient Aliens is incredible but I haven't finished it yet so now might be the perfect time You are the one "winning" for now, in the needed time for the run. Also, watching your video made me wonder. Why do you use with the bottom bar? It's nicer to play totally full screen with the info on the corners. And I would use Smooth Doom in wads like this, that doesn't have any new weapons or monsters.
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Turin Turambar posted:You are the one "winning" for now, in the needed time for the run. haha, yeah I know, fullscreen is nice but it's hard to explain - without Doomguy mean muggin all the time and those classic numbers and stuff, it just doesn't feel like Doom enough to me. I occasionally go fullscreen but ehhhh, part of the appeal of playing Doom is the familiar stuff and the old-school status bar at a small size works for me. it would be cool to have it so the classic bar is still there, but maybe the border on both sides was removed? I would use SmoothDoom but I use the neural network upscale addon and having that beautiful extra detail on monsters and stuff is too good for me to pass up
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Aug 4, 2019 19:42
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I vote Stardate 20X6 for the purple.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:43
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A couple of recommendations in the silly GZDoom category: The Golden Souls, Adventures of Square, and Shadow of the Wool Ball. Also we should do Chex Quest as a palate cleanser sometime.
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Why do we have so many difficult mapsets in the poll already, I thought we were going for a more gentle introduction for anyone new to Doom WADs  Anyways, I voted for Rush, since it's a relatively gentle introduction to slaughter gameplay. EDIT: Also, while I'm at it, a few more recommendations for later polls: Jade Earth: The mother of all adventure maps. If you thought Verdant Citadel was long, wait until you get a load of this. The Quirky Domain: Hey, do you like portals? Because FishyClockwork here looooooooooves portals. Dimension of the Boomed: This is what you get when you mix Quake with Doom. Unlike the previous recs, this is a 7 map episode. NuclearPotato fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Aug 4, 2019 |
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Aug 4, 2019 19:45
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Mr E posted:Voted Going Down cause I haven't ever done it. PM me 
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NuclearPotato posted:Anyways, I voted for Rush, since it's a relatively gentle introduction to slaughter gameplay. Yup, it was Going Down vs Rush for me. Going Down is pretty brutal in itself, but it's also a great exercise in fighting in constrained spaces.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:51
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Going Down all the way bb
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Voting Going Down, I think I tried to play through Ancient Aliens and got horribly stuck in a level due to really bad way finding.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:59
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Good soup! posted:I would use SmoothDoom but I use the neural network upscale addon and having that beautiful extra detail on monsters and stuff is too good for me to pass up IMO, the much smoother look of the animations make the game more beautiful than the upscale. YMMV
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Surprised to see Sunlust, Ancient Aliens and Going Down all in the poll because they're all pretty difficult packs. I remember trying Sunlust a few years back and playing in multi, probably on HMP, and it got to slaughter levels of enemies pretty fast, to the point where we were basically just using BFG the whole time to cut through waves. And this was with respawning ammo too. It was neat, but definitely going to be a big step up in difficulty over Sigil. If I remember correctly, even Hey Not Too Rough spawns cyberdemons as early as map 8. Going Down is an awesome pack but it definitely gets hard fast. I played it again recently but stopped when I got to a map over halfway through where you have to push a plunger to blow up a wall, waking up every enemy in the map and letting them swarm you. Even with lots of ammo, armor and health I couldn't get myself through safely so I stopped. Not opposed to going through again but once more, a decent step up in difficulty from Sigil. Ancient Aliens has a really cool everything about it and I don't remember it being ridiculously tough, though I know I didn't finish it. Definitely challenging and worth checking out. I think you need to use Hardware Acceleration for it because I recall some invisible textures and collision until I swapped around some video settings. I'm more interested in the other two because I haven't played them but that's just me. I'm willing to go back and give any and all of these choices another shot. Let's just be careful about jumping too far into the deep end yet.
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oh hey, there's a Doom Club I'm going to vote Going Down because I still haven't figured out how to get by the, ah, special guest on E1M3 on UV Ancient Aliens is also quite good and an extremely good looking WAD as well
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Turin Turambar posted:IMO, the much smoother look of the animations make the game more beautiful than the upscale. YMMV I love how Smooth Doom looks, it doesn't change anything, just adds more frames of animation without changing the timing of things, it's perfect. Or at least perfect for my untrained eyes that haven't played Doom for years.
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I remember AA and Going Down being real rough, but I also remember them being designed for different difficulty levels. I'm totally down for a vote to get some easier rides instead. More like Verdant Citadel would be great
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Turin Turambar posted:You are the one "winning" for now, in the needed time for the run. Overwatch Porn posted:verdant citadel was insanely good. didn't get a chance to screenshot the endscreen, but i got 95% kills in 27:15.
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NuclearPotato posted:Why do we have so many difficult mapsets in the poll already, I thought we were going for a more gentle introduction for anyone new to Doom WADs We started with Sigil, so that was already out the window.  SelenicMartian posted:I vote Stardate 20X6 for the purple. Same.
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Turin Turambar posted:You are the one "winning" for now, in the needed time for the run.
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Turin Turambar posted:IMO, the much smoother look of the animations make the game more beautiful than the upscale. YMMV Yeah smooth Doom is incredible, I was using it all the time right up until the neural upscale, totally understand the appeal Going Down is loving hilarious, these maps are so creative, it took me a bit to figure out the time warp puzzle, that was cool as hell Hard as hell too, mannnn gently caress that cyberdemon
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voted for Stardate out of the Ribbicks selections since I want to be obstinate and play through Sunlust on UV and I'm probably not managing that in a month. Also voted for Rush as by far the gentlest of the slaughter wads on offer. (it's a very good teacher please check it out if you're curious about slaughter maps)
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FPzero posted:Surprised to see Sunlust, Ancient Aliens and Going Down all in the poll because they're all pretty difficult packs. Yeah jumping right into the deep end with stuff like Sunlust could be discouraging more than anything for newer players. Also I don't know how much free time people have but if we're doing one wad a week then finishing 32 levels in that time may not be feasible for a lot of people.
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I am also pretty drat surprised AA, GD and Sunlust are all in the same voting list... that seems like an odd decision for the first round. Although I've played AA and GD before, they were with DRLA cranking the insanity up to 11; a vanilla playthrough of either should be a blast. Maybe monthly megawads and weekly episode length wads could help people overcome some of the intense challenges presented in this voting list.
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Oh I have been told Ribbicks puts a ton of work into difficulty settings for his wads so they might be more approachable on HMP
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