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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Eschatos posted:

Felix is such a prick, but I just can't give up the way he one-shots literally any enemy. I swapped Ashe for Bernadetta and Dedue for Hilda though. I don't really see the point in poaching any more students from other classes. They'll just end up sitting in the barracks permanently falling behind on levels.

I'm just going to poach whoever I naturally happen to and not worry about it

Also Annette won't stop critting and winning everything for me so she has a battalion now I guess

e: I sort of got the idea I was supposed to already have stolen someone by having the practice battle have an extra slot open though

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Aug 5, 2019

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Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013


pictured: Big Cum's Most Monstrous Ambassador

Fojar38 posted:

Every student you poach ends up sharing your plot armor. Do with this information what you will.

Good to know. How are yall pulling off poaching literally every student though? I only got the ones I've acquired by inviting them to meals/tea/cooking almost every month for most of the game leading up to the timeskip, while also grinding gifts. Spend literally all my money on gifts and look up a chart of who likes what?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Gamerofthegame posted:

Er, in both cases it's their entire families being wiped out and both of them being the sole hosed up and on death's door survivors of it all. Lysithea's entire noble house expect her parents eat it, while the same is largely true of Edel, and it comes from the same people. Just, you know, Edel's uncle, and not people from the Empire taking over the Ordelia house over something when Lys was two. Lys also gets to bear the weight of dying from the power and being little miss prototype, while I don't think Edel ever brings up the same issue. Though she is trying to rush things along, so that'd make sense.

The difference is that Lys is aware that children in her family are vanishing and hosed up poo poo is done to her but from the sounds of things she was still living in her family home. Edel on the other hand was trapped in a dungeon where she got to hear/watch her entire family break under the experimentation that she is also going through.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Eschatos posted:

Good to know. How are yall pulling off poaching literally every student though? I only got the ones I've acquired by inviting them to meals/tea/cooking almost every month for most of the game leading up to the timeskip, while also grinding gifts. Spend literally all my money on gifts and look up a chart of who likes what?

New Game Plus, which lets you buy Professor levels. I'm not sure it's actually possible to poach everyone without it, especially if its a blind first playthrough.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Eschatos posted:

Felix is such a prick, but I just can't give up the way he one-shots literally any enemy. I swapped Ashe for Bernadetta and Dedue for Hilda though. I don't really see the point in poaching any more students from other classes. They'll just end up sitting in the barracks permanently falling behind on levels.

Felix is great, too many of the Blue Lions are very rah-rah about noblesse oblige, but he makes no bones about telling everyone they're pompous shits who stomp all over common people.

Fojar38 posted:

New Game Plus, which lets you buy Professor levels. I'm not sure it's actually possible to poach everyone without it, especially if its a blind first playthrough.

I'm managing okay buying out the gift vendor every month and just gift bombing people. I'm not sure I'll get everyone, but I'm quite sure it's possible to do it on a first run if you abuse the Online Leasion for free gold.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


If you hear Edie's C+ support and don't side with her you are the problem. :colbert: I'm like incapable of playing evil paths in video games and I have 0 regrets doing Edelgard's route. Like Daenerys she did nothing wrong.

and yeah seeing everyone show up at your camp saying why they sided with you is extremely. :3: like if you don't run around talking to everyone every time they have some new tidbit to say, I don't understand cause while it's not super important it helps you get a picture of everyone.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Skippy McPants posted:

Felix is great, too many of the Blue Lions are very rah-rah about noblesse oblige, but he makes no bones about telling everyone they're pompous shits who stomp all over common people.

I play FE specifically to stomp all over people so the Blue Lions were the right call for me

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and yeah seeing everyone show up at your camp saying why they sided with you is extremely. like if you don't run around talking to everyone every time they have some new tidbit to say, I don't understand cause while it's not super important it helps you get a picture of everyone.

It's intensely tedious so far but hopefully it eases up. Five hours in and I've played literally only an hour

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Dorothea went from one of my least favorite characters to one of my most favorite based almost entirely on the back of her monestary dialogues.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
Dorothea is cool.

Beekeeping and You
Sep 27, 2011



Dorothea is great. She really grew on me after a few dialogues. Plus the hat, of course.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Beekeeping and You posted:

Dorothea is great. She really grew on me after a few dialogues. Plus the hat, of course.

It's a nice hat

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Dorothea’s dialogue after I killed Ferdinand really got to me.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Eimi posted:

If you hear Edie's C+ support and don't side with her you are the problem. :colbert: I'm like incapable of playing evil paths in video games and I have 0 regrets doing Edelgard's route. Like Daenerys she did nothing wrong.

If Edelgard is so great how come the only student that sided with her is Jafar? :colbert:

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Dorothea is my bae and there have been a couple times that I thought that there was some special dialogue in the monestary every mother for whatever character has highest support, because she said some girlfriend-rear end poo poo a couple different times.

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



Fojar38 posted:

If Edelgard is so great how come the only student that sided with her is Jafar? :colbert:

But Jafar isn’t even in this game! :downs:

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

So can you only do Rhea's supports on the BE Church path? I gave her a few gifts playing Blue Lions and it says I missed the opportunity to deepen the bond even though I'm still pre-skip.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

playing Black Eagles, who is a good candidate for dancer? I have recruited some other students if it makes a difference (Marianne, Mercedes, Felix, Lys, Manuela, Shamir, idk) I was leaning towards Dorothea because she seems like she'd enjoy it, but I'm open to other suggestions. Is it better to give it to someone who's worthless? I have a lot of mages.

I get a bit overwhelmed trying to decide who to pick for each battle to maximize support. Will I eventually get to a point where I can get every support rank with everyone (on my team) or do I need to prioritize? I'm obviously most concerned about my original Black Eagles because I know I can't get them all on other routes.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
If you spend your time early to max out your professor, the last few months will be basically "battles or eat lunch all day"

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I unlocked the dancer class but I don't see it available for units that I know can unlock it. (Dorathea and Flayn)

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Smirking_Serpent posted:

playing Black Eagles, who is a good candidate for dancer? I have recruited some other students if it makes a difference (Marianne, Mercedes, Felix, Lys, Manuela, Shamir, idk) I was leaning towards Dorothea because she seems like she'd enjoy it, but I'm open to other suggestions. Is it better to give it to someone who's worthless? I have a lot of mages.

I get a bit overwhelmed trying to decide who to pick for each battle to maximize support. Will I eventually get to a point where I can get every support rank with everyone (on my team) or do I need to prioritize? I'm obviously most concerned about my original Black Eagles because I know I can't get them all on other routes.

Best Dancer is usually your second or third-best magic user. I.e. Someone you bring along on missions who's not Lysithea.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Aug 5, 2019

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Dancer is basically a Mortal Savant but better so one of the characters that does both swords and sorcery. Dorothea is a pretty standard choice

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Detective No. 27 posted:

I unlocked the dancer class but I don't see it available for units that I know can unlock it. (Dorathea and Flayn)

You only get one dancer (the person who won the contest) and it's automatically put on their class list, no certification required.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Detective No. 27 posted:

I unlocked the dancer class but I don't see it available for units that I know can unlock it. (Dorathea and Flayn)

You only get 1 dancer, the unit who won the contest.

E:f,b

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

Skippy McPants posted:

So can you only do Rhea's supports on the BE Church path? I gave her a few gifts playing Blue Lions and it says I missed the opportunity to deepen the bond even though I'm still pre-skip.

I had a friend get her to A rank before doing the BE Edelgard path

I'm guessing that Rhea's cut off is before Byleth gets up new class

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Ah that makes sense.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Dancer is generally going to be behind your team, so a dedicated healer is a pretty good choice. Linhardt, Marianne who are slow healers would work well with their infinite range physic.

Kiranamos
Sep 27, 2007

STATUS: SCOTT IS AN IDIOT

Harrow posted:

I was thinking about recommendations for what routes to pick or what order to play the routes for people who haven't started yet. Here are my gut feelings. What does everyone else think:

I'm only going to play one route: Golden Deer. You get a nice balance between "big picture" plot and war plot. No route gives you everything story-wise, but Golden Deer strikes a balance.
I'll probably only play two routes: Black Eagles (Edelgard) > Golden Deer. This is a tough one, but I think it expands on some things you'd miss playing only Golden Deer in a way that Blue Lions > Golden Deer wouldn't.
I want to play them all but can't decide on an order: Blue Lions > Black Eagles (Edelgard) > Golden Deer > Black Eagles (Church). Playing in this order has the story gradually open up to you, with each playthrough revealing things that the previous didn't.

I’m probably a two route player at most so now I have to rethink my original idea to do church —> GD because the internet told me to

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

annette best dancer

Shinji117
Jul 14, 2013
Here's a question I don't think has been asked?
Say you lose the dancing competition, if you steal the character who won the dancing comp, do you now have a dancer?

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

thanks for the advice everyone, I'll go with Dorothea

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Smirking_Serpent posted:

playing Black Eagles, who is a good candidate for dancer? I have recruited some other students if it makes a difference (Marianne, Mercedes, Felix, Lys, Manuela, Shamir, idk) I was leaning towards Dorothea because she seems like she'd enjoy it, but I'm open to other suggestions. Is it better to give it to someone who's worthless? I have a lot of mages.

It's important to note that becoming a dancer unlocks the passive skill "Sword Avoid +20" so even if you don't want an actual Dancer, you might as well unlock the class for anyone who uses a sword.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

one last question, which raises support the most: tea parties/choir/sharing a meal/cooking?

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

perfect teatime i think

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Perfect teatime but you need a guide half the time with how vague the questions and answers are

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Fojar38 posted:

Perfect teatime but you need a guide half the time with how vague the questions and answers are

you just always select "Cats" if it's an option, and if they don't respond to it you kick them out of your house because you don't need that kind of negativity

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Perfect teatime also only raises support with one student and Byleth, whereas eating raises support between students too. Depends if you're going for recruitment or just getting more supports for what will be more efficient.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Remember that lunchtime can be done as many times as you want, as long as you have the food supply and you're picking different people every time.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Tae posted:

Remember that lunchtime can be done as many times as you want, as long as you have the food supply and you're picking different people every time.

And have enough activity points.

Support gains between NPCs feel a lot more important than gains between NPCs and Byleth since the former is always limited in some way and that latter can be handled by burying folks in gifts. Taking that into account, choir practice and shared lunches should be used often as possible.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Tae posted:

Remember that lunchtime can be done as many times as you want, as long as you have the food supply and you're picking different people every time.

On the food supply front, what is the best way to get more food? I'm running really low on a ton of materials since I'm eating so much after the timeskip.

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Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



For recruiting other students, do they want Byleth's stats and skills to be at a certain level or just the class's in general?

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