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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Aug 7, 2019 01:31
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mcmagic posted:Bernie was on Joe Rogan' s podcast. Yup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O-iLk1G_ng&t=870s Did drat well too!
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Aug 7, 2019 01:34
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Personally, I think it's great for dialogue in the midst of a forum that's primarily Bernie supporters with some Warren supporters, to have one crazy Buttigieg guy. It's like the 30-50 feral hogs are coming through OUR yard.
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Aug 7, 2019 01:38
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Girbot posted:Funny how they used percentage of donors instead of total number so they could reduce the bubble sizes of the candidate with the most donors. Yeah, for someone supposedly so well versed in statistics, Nate Dumbass doesn't seem to grasp the basics of denominator effects. The graph shows that about 15% of the people who donated to Warren also donated to Bernie, and that between 5 and 10% of Biden's, Buttgieg's and Harris' supporters did too. Or, as Matty B puts so eloquently: https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1158883254881128449
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Aug 7, 2019 01:38
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What's Nate's deal
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Aug 7, 2019 02:01
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Uncle Wemus posted:What's Nate's deal He's been bad for a while. He's always been pretty conservative, he's surrounded himself with center-right media figures for years, and he doesn't like Sanders and the left because they make his form of electoral analysis look obsolete and dumb.
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Aug 7, 2019 02:07
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Majorian posted:He's been bad for a while. He's always been pretty conservative, he's surrounded himself with center-right media figures for years, and he doesn't like Sanders and the left because they make his form of electoral analysis look obsolete and dumb. He’s also going to have trouble with the fact that polling is probably going to be off more this year than ever. The reputable pollsters can’t reach a representative slice of the population with the landlines being outdated combined with robocalls ruining picking up from unknown numbers. I expect a lot of surprises when voters start actually rolling in.
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Aug 7, 2019 02:27
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RasperFat posted:He’s also going to have trouble with the fact that polling is probably going to be off more this year than ever. i don't see how this squares with the fact that polls for the 2018 midterms were pretty accurate
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Aug 7, 2019 03:37
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The Bernie interview on JRE was really good. He comes across so much better in a relaxed setting where he can actually give a bit of nuance to his proposals and doesn't have to worry about someone trying to bait him into a stupid loving zinger or whatever. Watching it made me really not want to watch the fake rear end bullshit puppet show debates. What a loving farce those are.
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Aug 7, 2019 03:48
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Midgetskydiver posted:The Bernie interview on JRE was really good. He comes across so much better in a relaxed setting where he can actually give a bit of nuance to his proposals and doesn't have to worry about someone trying to bait him into a stupid loving zinger or whatever. Opening them with the national anthem and a color guard gives away the game too much that the news networks are going for a sportscast feel.
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Aug 7, 2019 04:16
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Midgetskydiver posted:The Bernie interview on JRE was really good. He comes across so much better in a relaxed setting where he can actually give a bit of nuance to his proposals and doesn't have to worry about someone trying to bait him into a stupid loving zinger or whatever. Yes, although let's face it - this last one was kinda worth it just to see Bernie call Jake Tapper out to his smug-rear end face.
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Aug 7, 2019 04:24
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Uglycat posted:
Look you're no TT or even Kyrie but you're definitely an honorable mention. This was good, but you ripped the hand a little too much here.
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Aug 7, 2019 04:46
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Uncle Wemus posted:What's Nate's deal He never really knew anything about politics in the first place. His only real skill was analyzing numbers and statistics of a numbers-heavy popular thing in ways the media likes. that got his site bought up by big media conglomerates who thought his presidential poll analysis went well with horse-race coverage. Problem is, after the election, there weren't any more presidential polls for him to analyze, but his corporate overlords still expected a constant flow of politics-related articles. Also, I think the fame might have gone to his head at some point and convinced him he was some kind of politics expert because the media liked his polling models. So he entered the world of punditry, even though he has a fantastically terrible understanding of politics.
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Aug 7, 2019 04:48
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Look you're no TT or even Kyrie but you're definitely an honorable mention. This was good, but you ripped the hand a little too much here. Oh, I remember Kyrie! Now there was a troll.  Main Paineframe posted:He never really knew anything about politics in the first place. His only real skill was analyzing numbers and statistics of a numbers-heavy popular thing in ways the media likes. that got his site bought up by big media conglomerates who thought his presidential poll analysis went well with horse-race coverage. Problem is, after the election, there weren't any more presidential polls for him to analyze, but his corporate overlords still expected a constant flow of politics-related articles. Also, I think the fame might have gone to his head at some point and convinced him he was some kind of politics expert because the media liked his polling models. So he entered the world of punditry, even though he has a fantastically terrible understanding of politics. Also he came to prominence when Nerd Culture started becoming mainstream. God the 00's were the worst decade.
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Aug 7, 2019 04:50
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Uglycat posted:I should say, he's bold enough to re-structure entire departments using crowdsourced decision making to decide metrics to watch while favoring (open-source) big-data informed evidence-based best practices. This is amazing. I work in tech, where this kind of language is a common magical incantation, and this sounds so much more nonsensical than that.
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Aug 7, 2019 05:32
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Is Nate Silver actually just blind? It would honestly explain a lot.
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Aug 7, 2019 06:48
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Haha, Nate is trying to spin that chart as if that's actually bad for Bernie.
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Aug 7, 2019 07:48
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Discendo Vox posted:Less than one minute with google, people. It's not hard to source things. uglycat thinks russians murdered seth rich. this does not say that also, dunno why you'd expect anyone to trust you after you posted fake news smearing a candidate in this thread. you're probably a russian bot
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Aug 7, 2019 08:33
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goethe.cx posted:i don't see how this squares with the fact that polls for the 2018 midterms were pretty accurate I think the 2020 election is going to be a different beast than 2018. Younger people generally don’t show up for midterms, even more so than their already abysmal voting rates. I don’t think it’s a certainty or anything, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see an extra 3-5% swing in favor of progressives. Of course this is the hell timeline, there’s always a small chance that enough young white men have CHUDified to gently caress everything up for our country and the then the rest of the world with the incoming climate change disasters.
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Aug 7, 2019 10:29
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kidkissinger posted:Wouldn't they accelerate towards him after a 360 
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Aug 7, 2019 10:41
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Lycus posted:Haha, Nate is trying to spin that chart as if that's actually bad for Bernie. Is he, though?
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Aug 7, 2019 14:38
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mcmagic posted:Bernie was on Joe Rogan' s podcast. A coworker who has never voted because "what's the point" just came up to me and said he listened to the podcast and will vote for Bernie. He said he tuned me out when I talked policies, but that podcast got his attention. He also said his fiancé will be voting for the first time ever for Bernie. Hope may not be a lie.
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Aug 7, 2019 14:39
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It’s hard to think of a better place for Bernie to share his message than Rogan’s show. Get in touch with young men who aren’t too ideological and who don’t usually participate in the process and show them why he’s worth voting for. That’s a brilliant booking.
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Aug 7, 2019 14:44
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I think Bernie is the only politician who can credibly go on a hostile media outlet and not get destroyed Bernie needs to go on Chapo already.
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Aug 7, 2019 14:44
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RC Cola posted:A coworker who has never voted because "what's the point" just came up to me and said he listened to the podcast and will vote for Bernie. He said he tuned me out when I talked policies, but that podcast got his attention. He also said his fiancé will be voting for the first time ever for Bernie. This doesn't exactly give me confidence in American democracy.
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Aug 7, 2019 15:03
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Mellow Seas posted:It’s hard to think of a better place for Bernie to share his message than Rogan’s show. Get in touch with young men who aren’t too ideological and who don’t usually participate in the process and show them why he’s worth voting for. That’s a brilliant booking. lol well yeah, i'm sure bernie was a big change from *looks at guest list* andy ngo, jordan peterson (half a dozen times in the last two years), sargon of akkad, and alex jones for those not-too-ideological young men good for bernie getting his message out but let's not whitewash the alt-right/conspiracy shitshow rogan's podcast is when it comes to political guests
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Aug 7, 2019 15:04
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half of americans don't vote because it's usually the lesser of two evils and their lives don't improve under either party.
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Aug 7, 2019 15:04
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Turns out actually trying to attract people away from the alt-right is...good.
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Aug 7, 2019 15:06
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https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1159079290786451456 This is good. Universal broadband public opinion is lit.
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Aug 7, 2019 15:10
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Tim Ryan currently yelling at the president on CNN.
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Aug 7, 2019 15:14
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Charlz Guybon posted:Tim Ryan currently yelling at the president on CNN. he even said "bullshit" beto really ushered in a new phase of performative outrage for the low tier candidates hoping to gain some steam from this
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Aug 7, 2019 15:18
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Charlz Guybon posted:Tim Ryan currently yelling at the president on CNN. Jeeze Tim, you don't have to yell. 
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Aug 7, 2019 15:40
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eke out posted:lol well yeah, i'm sure bernie was a big change from *looks at guest list* andy ngo, jordan peterson (half a dozen times in the last two years), sargon of akkad, and alex jones for those not-too-ideological young men Yeah that’s fair. I tend to think of those guys as gateways to more entrenched, openly political right-wingery*. I imagine a lot of people who follow those guys aren’t regular voters and haven’t formed hard opinions on things like economic philosophy. They’re white men so they’re extremely predisposed to conservatism and bigotry, but they’re young and not necessarily seeking out right wing opinions**, they just want to listen to Cool Drugs and MMA Guy Joe Rogan’s show. That makes them persuadable and a good place for Bernie to aim to explain what’s cool and good about socialism. There was a 10 page detail in the RWM thread a few months ago about how much Rogan does/doesn’t suck so I don’t want to get deep into it. I guess my position here is just “it’s good to appeal directly to the ignorant”. * I’m pretty sure he’s had Shapiro and other openly Republican guests on so that’s a big caveat on this. ** His appeal to people like this what makes his show potentially dangerous when he books right wingers. The important thing is that Bernie presented his message well, as he almost always does.
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Aug 7, 2019 16:06
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Chilichimp posted:This doesn't exactly give me confidence in American democracy. Just lol if you've ever had confidence in American "democracy".
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Aug 7, 2019 16:19
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Mellow Seas posted:Yeah that’s fair. I tend to think of those guys as gateways to more entrenched, openly political right-wingery*. I imagine a lot of people who follow those guys aren’t regular voters and haven’t formed hard opinions on things like economic philosophy. They’re white men so they’re extremely predisposed to conservatism and bigotry, but they’re young and not necessarily seeking out right wing opinions**, they just want to listen to Cool Drugs and MMA Guy Joe Rogan’s show. That makes them persuadable and a good place for Bernie to aim to explain what’s cool and good about socialism. https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?s=20
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Aug 7, 2019 16:41
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No one here is saying "you gotta hand it to Joe Rogan" they're saying it's good Bernie is getting his message out. https://twitter.com/GarbageApe/status/1159102430925205506
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Aug 7, 2019 16:45
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1159079290786451456 FYI Bernie's rural revitalization plan that's he had released for months has this as well https://berniesanders.com/issues/revitalizing-rural-america/ quote:Ensure access to high-speed broadband internet to every American. It is absurd that we do not have universal, high quality, affordable broadband access for every single American. According to the FCC, 39% of Americans living in rural areas lacked access to high-speed broadband internet and 30% don’t have access to mobile LTE broadband. We need strong broadband coverage across this country if business is going to thrive, create jobs and be competitive in the national and global economies. Quality broadband is essential for health care services, education and for the day-to-day needs of rural Americans.
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Aug 7, 2019 16:47
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WampaLord posted:No one here is saying "you gotta hand it to Joe Rogan" they're saying it's good Bernie is getting his message out.
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Aug 7, 2019 16:59
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Gotta say it's pretty wild that the exact same libs who are super loud about how them only important thing is beating Trump and the need to reach out to win GOP voters are also the ones who get absolutely livid once somebody on the left tries to get their message out in non-liberal forums.
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twodot posted:I feel pretty strongly it is very possible to engage with morally impure voters without boosting morally impure media personalities. Enjoy the next 4 years of Trump, you loving earned it.
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