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Should Gaj make his own thread
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Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Boomers like to say things like "millennials are killing the napkin industry."

Oh won't somebody please think of the poor disposable napkin industry!?

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CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug

Dameius posted:

Jesus this is peak boomer.

quote:

...together with a long discussion with my child bride (I call her that because she was only 19 when we got married back in 1973)

Imagine referring to your wife as your "child bride" :pedo:

This also reminds me of a right-wing candidate I saw on the Washington state ballot last year, whose self description said something along the lines of "My bride and I..." and it's just such a weird boomery way to refer to your wife. Obviously it's because they see their wives as their property, but still.

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-socialists-convention-erupts-due-to-sensory-overload-gendered-pronoun-usage

Boomers love mocking other people for asking that their disabilities be accommodated but god help you if all the scooters are currently in use at Wal Mart.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Beastie posted:

Boomers like to say things like "millennials are killing the napkin industry."

Oh won't somebody please think of the poor disposable napkin industry!?

Boomers love napkins, my dad can't eat without a giant pile of them.

Also turning on all the lights while you're in the room, but heaven forbid leaving any light on the instant you leave the room unoccupied for 30 seconds.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

The_Franz posted:

People are confusing boomers and gen-x

Everyone older than me is a Boomer and everyone younger is a Millennial.

Gen-X were the most recent poo poo parents and probably the most responsible for not vaccinating their kids and giving them names like Braydon and Jaxxon. Millennials are going to be the new poo poo parents. Boomers are the poo poo grandparents.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Krispy Wafer posted:

Everyone older than me is a Boomer and everyone younger is a Millennial.

Gen-X were the most recent poo poo parents and probably the most responsible for not vaccinating their kids and giving them names like Braydon and Jaxxon. Millennials are going to be the new poo poo parents. Boomers are the poo poo grandparents.

Jokes on you, I'm not going to have children, so I can't be a poo poo parent :smug:

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Iron Crowned posted:

Jokes on you, I'm not going to have children, so I can't be a poo poo parent :smug:

I give birth to poo poo at least once a day. Sometimes twice

Punkinhead
Apr 2, 2015

Dameius posted:

Jesus this is peak boomer.

The really infuriating thing is that a lot of boomers who are broke as poo poo and live paycheck to paycheck will nod along and agree. I don't know why, maybe because they think that one day they'll be rich (probably by playing the lottery, of course) and they don't want anyone saying they have to share any of it.

Krispy Wafer posted:

Everyone older than me is a Boomer and everyone younger is a Millennial.

Gen-X were the most recent poo poo parents and probably the most responsible for not vaccinating their kids and giving them names like Braydon and Jaxxon. Millennials are going to be the new poo poo parents. Boomers are the poo poo grandparents.

I grew up in a very perilous position. My grandpa was born in 1946, my mom was born in 1964. That's right, I was raised by a boomer that was raised by a boomer.

Punkinhead fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Aug 6, 2019

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Referring to potatoes as “New Pat-aye-ez”

Guildenstern Mother
Mar 31, 2010

Why walk when you can ride?
Boomers love being the last table in the restaurant they know is closed and asking the staff "are we keeping you?" and then shamelessly getting coffee and staying to chat.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

snergle posted:

a big plot point of that book was that the citizens dont remember their time in the machine and rich people live for an absurdly long time. turned out that you do remember being in the machine and its loving terrible they just wipe your memory before uploading you back into a body that isnt yours and give you new memories.

:hmmyes:

sounds like something a boomer would do

Stretch Marx
Apr 29, 2008

I'm ok with this.
Boomers don't like it when you point out the reason all the pesticides are being banned is because their generation and the one before can't be trusted with them due to abuse. When you also point out the people restricting the pesticides are also boomers they get even more annoyed.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

PinheadSlim posted:

The really infuriating thing is that a lot of boomers who are broke as poo poo and live paycheck to paycheck will nod along and agree. I don't know why, maybe because they think that one day they'll be rich (probably by playing the lottery, of course) and they don't want anyone saying they have to share any of it.


I grew up in a very perilous position. My grandpa was born in 1946, my mom was born in 1964. That's right, I was raised by a boomer that was raised by a boomer.

It’s weird because Boomers gave birth to both Gen-X and Millennials. I’m going to guess it’s in part because science meant Boomer ladies could have kids later in life and the high divorce rate meant Boomer dads could have second families. Also each successive generation has had fewer kids so it seems like all the parents are Boomers.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Krispy Wafer posted:

I’m going to guess it’s in part because science meant Boomer ladies could have kids later in life

more to do with changing social trends than science. my mom had kids relatively late in life because she was busy with grad school and a career

also its just because the spans are like 20 years long and overlap a bit and many people have several children years apart. i know several families with some gen x siblings and some millenial siblings

Earwicker fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Aug 6, 2019

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
It also comes down to generational titles being largely bullshit rather than denoting any specific defining characteristics besides "born between 19xx and 19yy"

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Getting upset at the "new way they teach Math" which is less abstract and makes more sense to students

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Iron Crowned posted:

Boomers love napkins, my dad can't eat without a giant pile of them.

Also turning on all the lights while you're in the room, but heaven forbid leaving any light on the instant you leave the room unoccupied for 30 seconds.

My dad was famous for tuning out the lights when HE left the room, didn't matter who was in it. Now imagine someone is having a conversation, the TV is on, etc. but nope he would always turn the lights out and leave you in a dark rear end basement.

Knowing what I do now, I'm pretty sure he was doing it on purpose.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Heath posted:

It also comes down to generational titles being largely bullshit rather than denoting any specific defining characteristics besides "born between 19xx and 19yy"

the defining characteristic of the baby boomer generation is that there are a lot of them, hence the title. thats pretty specific

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Professor Shark posted:

Getting upset at the "new way they teach Math" which is less abstract and makes more sense to students

I worked at a Barnes and Noble in college. We'd get tons of older folks coming in to bitch about Common Core. When I'd explain that it's basically (hopefully) what your brain does automatically they'd get pissed.

So I'd point out that if you wanted to add 67 and 43, it's easier for your brain to do 60+40+10.

That would really send them into a rage.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Beastie posted:

I worked at a Barnes and Noble in college. We'd get tons of older folks coming in to bitch about Common Core. When I'd explain that it's basically (hopefully) what your brain does automatically they'd get pissed.

So I'd point out that if you wanted to add 67 and 43, it's easier for your brain to do 60+40+10.

That would really send them into a rage.

That's all common core is? I suspected it was bullshit by the types of people who bitched about it, but seeing as I'm an elder millennial with no kids, I really had to frame of reference as to what it was, exactly.

All those stories about parents in tears 'cuz they couldn't understand their kids' math homework is getting me rock hard now.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

LabyaMynora posted:

That's all common core is? I suspected it was bullshit by the types of people who bitched about it, but seeing as I'm an elder millennial with no kids, I really had to frame of reference as to what it was, exactly.

All those stories about parents in tears 'cuz they couldn't understand their kids' math homework is getting me rock hard now.

That and a lack of teaching cursive

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

Guess what! :love:
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A Post, Just for you! :love:
Wedge Regret
Johnboy & Billy big show.

Infinite Karma
Oct 23, 2004
Good as dead





LabyaMynora posted:

That's all common core is? I suspected it was bullshit by the types of people who bitched about it, but seeing as I'm an elder millennial with no kids, I really had to frame of reference as to what it was, exactly.

All those stories about parents in tears 'cuz they couldn't understand their kids' math homework is getting me rock hard now.
It also uses new language to describe those methods, so it is understandably confusing, I guess? Like you might see a problem that says "Estimate 33+143=?" with no further instructions. Or "Solve these using place values:" with a bunch of addition problems. The math isn't very hard, it's just hard to explain how to do that to a kid when you don't know what the method is that they learned/are supposed to follow.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


LabyaMynora posted:

That's all common core is? I suspected it was bullshit by the types of people who bitched about it, but seeing as I'm an elder millennial with no kids, I really had to frame of reference as to what it was, exactly.

All those stories about parents in tears 'cuz they couldn't understand their kids' math homework is getting me rock hard now.

In a very dumbed down sense, yes. But their brains have known for 60 years that 9x4=36.

Because they memorized the multiplication tables. So did I but I have enough self awareness to say “it’s awesome that the kids are learning what numbers mean.”

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Heath posted:

It also comes down to generational titles being largely bullshit rather than denoting any specific defining characteristics besides "born between 19xx and 19yy"

Anthropologically speaking, 1964 and 1966 are the same age cohort, and should just be called Gen-X despite marketing saying one is Boomer and one is Gen-X. See also:1944-1950.

DorkusMalorkus
Aug 4, 2009

"That's not Latin!"

Dameius posted:

Jesus this is peak boomer.

some old gently caress posted:

Your time will come soon enough, and I really hope you can become as self-indulgent as I am now. Most of my fellow boomers deserve their retirement. Some don’t, as they have never worked or contributed positively in their lives, but karma usually works for them.

Translation: gently caress you I got mine

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
wait do kids not memorize multiplication tables up to 12x12 now?

It wasn't that hard if you weren't too stupid to figure out the patterns

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

Methanar posted:

wait do kids not memorize multiplication tables up to 12x12 now?

It wasn't that hard if you weren't too stupid to figure out the patterns

There's probably some memorization of it still, but I'm guessing that the point of common core math is that it's supposed to dig deeper into how numbers work, and that its methods scale better.

Like, what's 137 x 12? That's not on the multiplication table, so you're SOL there, and if most of your primary school math education was from the 90s or early 2000s (the average age of SA users must be around 30 by now), you'd have been told to write it out as a sum, or just use a calculator.

You might know that an easier way to do that in your head is something like (137 x 10) + 137 +137, because multiplying things by ten is easy and the rest is just addition, but you weren't taught that formally in school. But you are in common core.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Coucho Marx posted:

There's probably some memorization of it still, but I'm guessing that the point of common core math is that it's supposed to dig deeper into how numbers work, and that its methods scale better.

Like, what's 137 x 12? That's not on the multiplication table, so you're SOL there, and if most of your primary school math education was from the 90s or early 2000s (the average age of SA users must be around 30 by now), you'd have been told to write it out as a sum, or just use a calculator.

You might know that an easier way to do that in your head is something like (137 x 10) + 137 +137, because multiplying things by ten is easy and the rest is just addition, but you weren't taught that formally in school. But you are in common core.

Spot on, yeah. I was never taught common core and had always defaulted to the slow writing system or using a calculator, but a couple years ago I started getting really annoyed with that, so I adapted ways to make mental math easier in exactly the way you showed above. It wasn't until I saw some of my elementary school-aged clients' math homework that I realized I was using common core without even knowing it.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Coucho Marx posted:

There's probably some memorization of it still, but I'm guessing that the point of common core math is that it's supposed to dig deeper into how numbers work, and that its methods scale better.

Like, what's 137 x 12? That's not on the multiplication table, so you're SOL there, and if most of your primary school math education was from the 90s or early 2000s (the average age of SA users must be around 30 by now), you'd have been told to write it out as a sum, or just use a calculator.

You might know that an easier way to do that in your head is something like (137 x 10) + 137 +137, because multiplying things by ten is easy and the rest is just addition, but you weren't taught that formally in school. But you are in common core.

:thunk:

:psyboom:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Pixar despite its good stuff manages to be boomer as hell a lot of the time.

Was kinda funny in Incredibles 2 there's a bit where the dad is trying to help his son out with math homework and finds himself struggling since they teach it differently from how he remembers; in the vaguely 60s setting (they even have Johnny Quest on TV) it'd be New Math but it'd be relevant today with Common Core. (of course, the superhero dad perseveres and makes the effort to learn it so he can help his son learn)

Meanwhile, I'm bad at maths.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Framboise posted:

Spot on, yeah. I was never taught common core and had always defaulted to the slow writing system or using a calculator, but a couple years ago I started getting really annoyed with that, so I adapted ways to make mental math easier in exactly the way you showed above. It wasn't until I saw some of my elementary school-aged clients' math homework that I realized I was using common core without even knowing it.

The GRE exam (the exam for getting into the second level of college, for you non americans) really tests this over and over. Questions include "What's 143 x 672?" and only one of the answer choices ends in 6, or "what are the prime factors of 450?" and if you just note that 450=45 x 10 the rest of the problem solves itself.

I teach it, and older gen-xers/young boomers frequently break into tears of relief when they realize that math isn't a system of memorizing and "you either know it or you don't" is antiquated.

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

Don't feel too bad - I'm an Australian in my late 20s and it took until maybe three years ago to think 'hey, multiplying poo poo by an easy number close to what you're actually multiplying by gets you most of the way there!' XYZ x 9? x 10 and subtract XYZ. Even multiplying three figures by three figures, you can break it down enough that you can at least get a really close estimate without trying very hard. For a while after I figured it out, I would lay awake at night doing large sums in my head because it was a novelty that I could.

Part of me would really like going back to math and doing it over. I was never bad at it, and did pretty well at it in primary school, but fell behind in high school until the final year where I took the easier math class and had a great teacher. Anything that makes mathematics more accessible is fantastic.

SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"
Boomers LOVE "you either know it or you don't" false dichotomies. It accounts for the vast majority of the problems I have with people at work.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 43 hours!
They love showing the Facebook video of the old school method to multiply two large numbers vs the common core way, with the common core side taking ten times longer than the 'traditional' method. But I'm assuming the 'common core' side is a teacher demonstrating how to solve the problem, vs the older method where there is zero context as to WHY you do it that way.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
So is common core just math as has been taught in other countries for years? Because I really have trouble picturing how the old US System works when stuff like prime factors and split it in two simpler multiplications are considered deep magick.

Stanley Tucheetos
May 15, 2012

Randler posted:

So is common core just math as has been taught in other countries for years? Because I really have trouble picturing how the old US System works when stuff like prime factors and split it in two simpler multiplications are considered deep magick.

US math classes were memorizing multiplication tables of 1x1 all the way to 12x12 along with memorizing whatever formula is being taught at the moment until you forget it when moving on to the next.

Quaint Quail Quilt
Jun 19, 2006


Ask me about that time I told people mixing bleach and vinegar is okay

Stanley Tucheetos posted:

US math classes were memorizing multiplication tables of 1x1 all the way to 12x12 along with memorizing whatever formula is being taught at the moment until you forget it when moving on to the next.
I agree (as a 32 year old)

I only learned most of the table though and never memorised all the state capitols either so I devised the methods above your post on my own independently to get through the higher maths.
I also learned a different way to do long division at the very end of highschool that finally clicked and was easy.

Quaint Quail Quilt fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Aug 7, 2019

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Stanley Tucheetos posted:

US math classes were memorizing multiplication tables of 1x1 all the way to 12x12 along with memorizing whatever formula is being taught at the moment until you forget it when moving on to the next.

yep that's basically what math class was when I was in school, graduated 07

literally just rote memorization of formulas with no attempt to even say why you would need those formulas, much less how they work

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DeathCrabForCutie
Jul 14, 2019
oh fuc-

Picnic Princess posted:

Yeah, boomers are their grandparents who blame video games and lack of spankings and religion.

That's fair. But it's probably worth noting that lots of younger Millennial/Gen Z kids were raised more by their Boomer grandparents than their Gen-X parents for a variety of reasons. poo poo can be hard to separate.



SwitchbladeKult posted:

Boomers LOVE "you either know it or you don't" false dichotomies. It accounts for the vast majority of the problems I have with people at work.

Ugh, this is the worst. Also pretending they're too old to learn new things after age 45 or so.

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