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Cuntpunch posted:Every so often, after a drink on a Saturday evening, I stare wistfully out at the sky and long for the days before I became a developer and there was still a hopeful optimism in my heart that good code must exist in companies across the globe, providing the very infrastructure that our world operates on. Imagine Therac-25 writ in JavaScript. Now consider that people try to write embedded JavaScript.
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Aug 1, 2019 11:32
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leper khan posted:Imagine Therac-25 writ in JavaScript. I think my fear is more that at some point, the nukes are going to need new control software.
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Aug 1, 2019 12:07
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Not if we get rid of them all. By launching them 
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ultrafilter posted:I have a colleague who once got penalized on his annual review for spending too much time building reusable components instead of just throwing together some crap to fix whatever the pressing business need of the moment was. Same but DS colleague passed up for promotion because she spent too much time writing good code and not enough time coming up with flashy data science
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Aug 1, 2019 13:57
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Bongo Bill posted:It can be done right. Bold claim, Bill
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Aug 1, 2019 14:50
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Cuntpunch posted:I think my fear is more that at some point, the nukes are going to need new control software. Hackernoon Article: How to Build a Nuclear Arms Control Software using React hooks, Electron and Bootstrap
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Aug 1, 2019 15:42
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Protocol7 posted:Bootstrap
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Aug 1, 2019 17:09
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Sagacity posted:Sick burn, grandpa I mean, would it be government software if it wasn't outdated well before it was released?
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Aug 1, 2019 17:13
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Bongo Bill posted:It can be done, right? Nope!
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Aug 1, 2019 18:48
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Protocol7 posted:Hackernoon Article: How to Build a Nuclear Arms Control Software using React hooks, Electron and Bootstrap V8 rockets
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Aug 1, 2019 19:29
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Bongo Bill posted:It can be done right. I mean it's all jokes and so forth but if the org is committed to it agile - and particularly xp imo - can totally work well.
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Aug 1, 2019 19:54
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rotor posted:I mean it's all jokes and so forth but if the org is committed to it agile - and particularly xp imo - can totally work well. I've warmed up a bit to Agile now that I'm at a job that implements it fairly well. Our team is able to turn big features out really quickly and I don't feel like I'm fighting my PM to get anything done.
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Aug 1, 2019 20:23
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lifg posted:Holy poo poo. That's the point at which incompetence becomes evil. Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence and malice.
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Aug 1, 2019 20:27
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence and malice. Technically, the quote is “Never attribute to malice what you can more easily attribute to incompetence”, so...
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Aug 1, 2019 22:01
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ChickenWing posted:Same but DS colleague passed up for promotion because she spent too much time writing good code and not enough time coming up with flashy data science Ugh. Data science makes development look like a sane and reasonable place to work.
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Aug 1, 2019 23:54
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It's gotten to the point where I feel the people or organizations actively labeling or promoting themselves as data scientists are grifters
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Aug 2, 2019 06:09
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programmer -> software engineer statistician -> data scientist
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Aug 2, 2019 20:55
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The vast majority of people calling themselves data scientists are completely statistically illiterate. No one cares because they know how to make pretty graphs.
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Aug 3, 2019 01:11
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Further cementing the opinion that statistics == lies.
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Aug 3, 2019 03:41
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Knowing how to spot interesting and actionable patterns in messy, potentially unstructured data is a vastly different discipline and skillset from what people have traditionally called a statistician OTOH calling it a science may also be a stretch
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Data science is knowing how to find the patterns. Statistics is knowing how confident you can be that those patterns will generalize to the next data set. Data science is definitely something different from traditional statistics, but it's not as different as a lot of people think it is. Anybody who's interested in the topic should read 50 Years of Data Science.
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This thing reared its ugly head again.  Management consulting + "Agile" = 
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Sinten posted:This thing reared its ugly head again. Edit: It also looks like the stop at the Cumulative Flow Diagram station isn't hooked up to anything either. I guess it just dumps you off the tracks on departure?
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I'm "Mock Objects" happazardly thrown into the release section.
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Aug 7, 2019 02:24
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That diagram is not meant to be understood. Also, what is "Parking Lot"?
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Aug 7, 2019 02:49
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There's probably some witty metaphor about it resembling a city's public transit map that I just can't quite reach (because I am an idiot, and even then, the diagram has broken my brain).
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Aug 7, 2019 02:56
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Rubellavator posted:That diagram is not meant to be understood. Also, what is "Parking Lot"? i've heard this term used to refer to taking longer conversations out of scrum, ie "ok guys can we take this to the parking lot? we got a lot to cover today"
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Aug 7, 2019 03:03
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rotor posted:i've heard this term used to refer to taking longer conversations out of scrum, ie "ok guys can we take this to the parking lot? we got a lot to cover today" Synonym for take it offline
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"You wanna take this outside???"
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CPColin posted:"You wanna take this outside???" The Chad programmer vs the incel new hire
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Aug 7, 2019 06:36
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Lol it'd be kinda funny to bring that chart to a dev interview as an interviewer and ask the interviewee for their thoughts on it. I'd suspect it'd be a good filter for BS
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shrike82 posted:Lol it'd be kinda funny to bring that chart to a dev interview as an interviewer and ask the interviewee for their thoughts on it. I'd suspect it'd be a good filter for BS "I reject your BS and substitute my own!"
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Most of those things are overlapping methodologies that share a lot of the same ideas. So its pretty stupid to throw them all up on one chart like you would ever do all of them together or that they're actually overly different things. So I guess exactly the kind of superficiality and cargo culting one should expect...
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Aug 7, 2019 19:39
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rotor posted:i've heard this term used to refer to taking longer conversations out of scrum, ie "ok guys can we take this to the parking lot? we got a lot to cover today" One company's term for this is "rathole", as in "this is ratholing, y'all take it offline." They also call slides "foils" because it's apparently 1972.
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JawnV6 posted:One company's term for this is "rathole", as in "this is ratholing, y'all take it offline." They also call slides "foils" because it's apparently 1972. My old job had three variations of parking lot: "parking lot": needs to be discussed, just not right now, it's a tangent "deck chairs": futile / useless discussion in the face of a larger problem "bikeshed": trivial discussion Since our weekly progress meeting always involved too many people you could start a chant of any of these if you got annoyed enough and the agenda would move on.
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Elmo. "Enough, let's move on." There's even a Sesame Street Elmo plushie in the meeting room you can throw at people (or just pick up and hold in front of you I guess but that's not as funny) if it really goes bad.
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Protocol7 posted:There's probably some witty metaphor about it resembling a city's public transit map that I just can't quite reach (because I am an idiot, and even then, the diagram has broken my brain).
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Carbon dioxide posted:Elmo. "Enough, let's move on." On a former team, we did this as well. If someone was just going on and on you could say "Potato!" and that was the polite sign for "I'm going to murder you if you don't stop talking."
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