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pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Business Gorillas posted:

Isn't Greenwald why Reality Winner is in solitary confinement?
Yep. At best, he hosed up really badly on that one.

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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Glad that this whole "Is Glenn Greenwald good?" Conversation begins and ends at "he's a fuckin rat"

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

thats not really a problem for them

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

pookel posted:

Yep. At best, he hosed up really badly on that one.

Except for the part where it isn't his fault at all. But there have been good knows how many posts in this thread and others pointing out why, so just go gently caress yourself

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004


lol

*while sporting an 'i hate law enforcement' t-shirt*: how do you do, fellow marxist-leninists?



i'm just glad some of these clowns are so incompetent that their ruse doesn't effect anyone who's not already a rube

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
they pulled the article lol embarrassing

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

KomradeX posted:

Except for the part where it isn't his fault at all. But there have been good knows how many posts in this thread and others pointing out why, so just go gently caress yourself

lol

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Who's Reality Winner? Is that a real person we refer to by their SA username like Vilerat?

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Jewel Repetition posted:

Who's Reality Winner? Is that a real person we refer to by their SA username like Vilerat?

she's a former NSA employee who sent docs to the intercept showing that russia did indeed mess with voting machines. the intercept published the documents she sent to them as is and they were used to track her down and arrest her. she's now spending a few years in prison for it. also yes her name really is reality winner, lol

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016
lol
https://twitter.com/archieofqueens/status/1159571128098205698?s=21

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004


is that the same guy?

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

they pulled the article lol embarrassing

i can't believe the insanely real new york city construction worker/union activist/loony left fighter Archie Carter's words were silenced

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

they pulled the article lol embarrassing

Supports the Sokal hoax theory, I suppose

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



article reposted with editor's note listing Archie's skull measurements

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Epic High Five posted:

article reposted with editor's note listing Archie's skull measurements

Archie extremely real and extremely Germanic

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Mr Interweb posted:

is that the same guy?

https://twitter.com/ArchieOfQueens/status/1159508722231795714


yes

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Business Gorillas posted:

Isn't Greenwald why Reality Winner is in solitary confinement?

yeah his opsec is poo poo for someone in his line of work, it is completely inexcusable (altho reality winner was clearly not up to par either)

when snowden originally reached out to greenwald he spent a month unsuccessfully trying to get him to set up a secure email channel

quote:

Poitras was not Snowden’s first choice as the person to whom he wanted to leak thousands of N.S.A. documents. In fact, a month before contacting her, he reached out to Greenwald, who had written extensively and critically about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the erosion of civil liberties in the wake of 9/11. Snowden anonymously sent him an e-mail saying he had documents he wanted to share, and followed that up with a step-by-step guide on how to encrypt communications, which Greenwald ignored. Snowden then sent a link to an encryption video, also to no avail.

“It’s really annoying and complicated, the encryption software,” Greenwald said as we sat on his porch during a tropical drizzle. “He kept harassing me, but at some point he just got frustrated, so he went to Laura.”

you'd think he would learn from his mistakes but as i said, he's not prone to much humility or self-reflection

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

they pulled the article lol embarrassing

Gonna confirm it with their source in the DSA, one CE Liveley

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

yeah his opsec is poo poo for someone in his line of work, it is completely inexcusable (altho reality winner was clearly not up to par either)

when snowden originally reached out to greenwald he spent a month unsuccessfully trying to get him to set up a secure email channel


you'd think he would learn from his mistakes but as i said, he's not prone to much humility or self-reflection

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1159455293262180352

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Mr Interweb posted:

lol

*while sporting an 'i hate law enforcement' t-shirt*: how do you do, fellow marxist-leninists?



i'm just glad some of these clowns are so incompetent that their ruse doesn't effect anyone who's not already a rube

I remember one time me and a friends walked by some pro medical pot rally being held in Union Square and some had on a Che shirt, the first abd only time I've ever seen it in public and me and my friends liked wesh other laughing at how obviously that guy was cop

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

why not both?

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Spergin Morlock posted:

she's a former NSA employee who sent docs to the intercept showing that russia did indeed mess with voting machines. the intercept published the documents she sent to them as is and they were used to track her down and arrest her. she's now spending a few years in prison for it. also yes her name really is reality winner, lol

So she's currently employed by the NSA but had to be arrested to maintain her cover.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1159570826154430465

i know it was mentioned already, but here's the tweet

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
*ring ring*

Me: Hello Glenn, would you like the scoop on the story of the decade?

Glenn: Uh, yeah of course. drat.

Me: Ok but before I send it I need you to log on t-

Glenn: UGHHHHHHHH borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring *click*

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better


> Start new country
> Find economic prosperity through socialist means
> Invaded by USA

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Who owns all the land lol

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




because then the police get in their helicopters and biplanes and drop firebombs on them Tim

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

actually this is the exact premise of an obscure Karl Marx novel entitled Gaia Hugged

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

guess I’ll post for the millionth time that grenwald wasn’t the one working on reality winner’s story and that she would have been caught anyway because she used her work computer

I’m sure it’s pointless but I’m autistic and have to correct people it’s in my nature

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
that’s not really a correction that’s just adding more info, which since this is what is happening right now is at least on topic

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1159562522036281344

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
stedfast is an extreme, anti-semitic / fascist network of churches associated with the NIFB (new independent fundamentalist baptists)

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1082453597290459138

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Pizza Segregationist posted:

guess I’ll post for the millionth time that grenwald wasn’t the one working on reality winner’s story and that she would have been caught anyway because she used her work computer

I’m sure it’s pointless but I’m autistic and have to correct people it’s in my nature

she is ultimately responsible for her own actions and their ramifications.

but when you start an organization focused on whistleblowing, particularly wrt targets like intelligence agencies, you have a basic responsibility to consult with knowledgeable people and establish best practices for everyone working in the organization. esp if your original blockbuster story is what built the brand that makes others trust the org.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Also aren't there plenty of at least semi-communist hippie communities all over the place in the US?

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

stedfast is an extreme, anti-semitic / fascist network of churches associated with the NIFB (new independent fundamentalist baptists)

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1082453597290459138

When will moderate Christians denounce these radical preachers? I'm beginning to think moderate christianity doesn't exist.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Intel&Sebastian posted:

Also aren't there plenty of at least semi-communist hippie communities all over the place in the US?

oh yeah there's communes that have been in constant operation for decades, whereas those towns that get taken over by libertarians get run into the ground within a year, and they're starting with the town already built even

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Epic High Five posted:

oh yeah there's communes that have been in constant operation for decades, whereas those towns that get taken over by libertarians get run into the ground within a year, and they're starting with the town already built even

one of my longterm life goals is to move back into a commune and thanks to climate change it might happen sooner than later!!!

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Grondoth posted:

When will moderate Christians denounce these radical preachers? I'm beginning to think moderate christianity doesn't exist.
they are very much like wahhabist whackjobs. this is the church in fort worth after their pastor was ousted for doing drugs and cavorting with unbiblical women:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Lp5GEfDCo

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Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

she is ultimately responsible for her own actions and their ramifications.

but when you start an organization focused on whistleblowing, particularly wrt targets like intelligence agencies, you have a basic responsibility to consult with knowledgeable people and establish best practices for everyone working in the organization. esp if your original blockbuster story is what built the brand that makes others trust the org.

sure I agree that the intercept should have been better prepared to handle that sort of thing securely. just bugs me when people act like glen personally called up the fbi and ratted her out or whatever

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