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Arkeus
Jul 21, 2013

Zoran posted:

Unless Serenes Forest is wrong, she doesn’t get Agnea's Arrow. Only Dorothea and Lorenz get that.
I'm not sure what went wrong with my eyes a second.

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ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Wind is a pretty good spell imo, its low weight lets Annette double usually despite her mediocre speed. Her spell list is dece I’d say. Recover at C Faith is pretty great for a backup healer too.

Having Rally Strength + Speed at C+ Authority is incredible though and I’m salty that I didn’t think about this beforehand.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!
Why do Hubert and Ignatz, the two other triple-rally characters, have to have weaknesses in Flying? :mad:

My dreams of building (completely unnecessary) flying rally bots are dashed

psy_wombats
Dec 1, 2009

I ditched Annette's rally skills pretty early. With Fiendish Blow there wasn't much that was surviving getting doubled by her and she crits a ton as well, so I figured I'd just build her for offense. It'd be hard to justify building her into a rallier or whatever with her default pitiful mage movement and it seemed easier to just turn her into a deathmachine vs a flier.

It was fun bringing her into the paralogue with her dad where you're supposed to not touch the guards or something, only for her to take down four beefy dudes in armor all in the same enemy phase with Nosferatu.

Shinji117
Jul 14, 2013

Zoran posted:

Why do Hubert and Ignatz, the two other triple-rally characters, have to have weaknesses in Flying? :mad:

My dreams of building (completely unnecessary) flying rally bots are dashed

Hubert has a weakness in flying cause he's afraid of heights.

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy
Thats why he's so into edelgard, because she's like 5'3"

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Thats why he's so into edelgard, because she's like 5'3"

:aaaaa:

The Skeleton King
Jul 16, 2011

Right now undead are at the top of my shit list. Undead are complete fuckers. Those geists are fuckers. Necromancers are fuckers. Necrosavants are big time fuckers. Skeletons aren't too bad except when they bleed everyone in the company. Zombos are at least not too bad.


Okay so Ingrid failed so many level ups that even if I made her a Wyvern Lord she would still do garbage damage and get doubled by anything with more than 24 speed and has trash defense. She is 100% unusable and I can’t respec her within the last 3 chapters to be anything else.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
Edelgard is like the fifth shortest character in the game. Even Lysithea ends up taller than her.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

Just beat the game(Black Eagle Edelgard) and diving back in to new game plus and already came into a huge plot question why would edelgard send the mercenaries to chase them into Jeralt and Byleth? She thought Byleth wouldn't side with her. Why would she bring them into the monastery world and not leave them be? Also is there a dump with all the ending cards? I know I will definitely not see a lot of them.

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy
I think once she realized that Byleth and Jeralt were going to kill the bandits she just rolled with killing them. The main goal of that was to kill dimitri and claude so nobody at the academy could challenge her

Scrap Dragon
Oct 6, 2013

SECRET TECHNIQUE:
DARK SHADOW
BLACK FALLEN ANGEL!


Zoran posted:

I know you get a B rank cavalry battalion with Stride from Lorenz's paralogue

Hmm? I definitely didn’t get those guys from Lorenz’s paralogue and I’m not sure what optional objective I could’ve missed

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



I know on Blue Lions you can buy Kingdom
Calvary with Stride.

At least I think so, Sylvain has to get it from somewhere.

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy
Just buy some seiros monks and stick em on Mercedes or something, if she has physic and stride its not like she needs anything else

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

So do you guys like not having the weapons triangle in this game?

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
chapters 19 and 20 golden deer were uh, designed in a way that made me go "gently caress it lol warpskip"

so turn one set it up, and turn two was warpskip time

Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Aug 9, 2019

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy
Ehh I can go either way on the weapon triangle. I didn't expect combat to be good in this one because Echoes didnt have the weapon triangle and that game was a chore to play

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I am upset that Hilda and Linhardt do not have a support.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

The Skeleton King posted:

Just 3 chapters left in blue lion. Dimitri is my favorite FE protagonist now, the guy is a loving rollercoaster. Haven’t seen a protagonist get dragged through the mud so hard in a while.

As much as I love Claude and he's my boy, the Lions campaign was amazingly good. I'm at chapter 9 beagles now and I don't really enjoy Edelgard on any level compared to Alliance Lord of Friendship and King Slipknot. Hubert is ok but he just blurts poo poo out all the time which is pretty dumb for a spymaster. I like the other eagles though, Caspar rules, Bernie and Dorothea are also great.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

dimitri owns

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
you know one reason i'm interested in dimitri's route is seeing how the story handles his mental issues, even if it's supposedly weaker than the rest in terms of lore and its arc

Pastrymancy
Feb 20, 2011

11:13: Despite Gio Gonzalez warning, "Never mix your sparkling juices," Bryce Harper opens another bottle of sparkling grape and mixes it with sparkling cider.

1:07: Harper walks to the 7-11 and orders an all-syrup Slurpee.

1:10-3:05: Harper has no recollection of this time. Aliens?
I figure that if I did Golden Deer first, it'd be fine to follow that with Lions

Unless Eagles packs more of a punch?

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy
Eagles is like six chapters shorter assuming you spare Edelgard but you get to kill God and the church

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

Carlosologist posted:

So do you guys like not having the weapons triangle in this game?

I kind of miss it just because it gave a firmer identity to weapons than just the speciality stuff they get
And it's a little weird that you can get the beneficial part of the weapon triangle without the downside as a skill?

But it's like, fine, I guess.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Eagles is like six chapters shorter assuming you spare Edelgard but you get to kill God and the church

Four chapters. 18 compared to 21/22 of the other routes.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Pastrymancy posted:

I figure that if I did Golden Deer first, it'd be fine to follow that with Lions

Unless Eagles packs more of a punch?

Eagles is everything I wanted storywise with the best lord and it's the most gay house making it obviously the winner. She's also the only lord you can be gay with. :colbert:

Carlosologist posted:

So do you guys like not having the weapons triangle in this game?

I miss it because it kind of dilutes the identity of some weapons, specifically lances and swords. There are certain weapon arts that are great in both, but I don't think those two feel different enough now. If they had done more to differentiate them, I'd be happier. Granted combat was still really great, but you don't really by just not having a balanced team weapon wise. This bugs me because I kinda wanna ditch Caspar for my ng+ because he was a huge albatross around my neck and use Felix because he's studied the blade, but then I'd have too many sword users and too few axe users.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

you know one reason i'm interested in dimitri's route is seeing how the story handles his mental issues, even if it's supposedly weaker than the rest in terms of lore and its arc

It's a much more traditional tale than the other routes (I'm not done with BE but I understand the thrust of it) and that's the strength of the Lions route. I really enjoyed playing it through.

Arkeus
Jul 21, 2013

rannum posted:

I kind of miss it just because it gave a firmer identity to weapons than just the speciality stuff they get
And it's a little weird that you can get the beneficial part of the weapon triangle without the downside as a skill?

But it's like, fine, I guess.

I mean, enemies can get the beneficial part too.

I do think there is some differences in the weapons even without the triangle (I ended up ditching the ability later on for my endgame builds because it can't really compare to the best abilities) though. Crit/Might/Weight ends up making Sword/Axe/Lance character feel different.

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

Arkeus posted:

I mean, enemies can get the beneficial part too.

i didn't really see any of this on hard mode, and even it's like, occasionally a boss has the -breaker abilities, it wasn't something widely adopted by enemy forces in a meaningful way, imo.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
The weapon triangle would suck in this game where your roster deployment is like 10. It made more sense when you had 3-5 more slots.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Eimi posted:

Eagles is everything I wanted storywise with the best lord and it's the most gay house making it obviously the winner. She's also the only lord you can be gay with. :colbert:

Blue Lions is gayer because you get to keep Alois and Rhea and you get Gilbert and Mercedes. All it's missing is Linhardt and Dorothea for maximum gayness and both are easily recruitable

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I hit more BL supports today and uh so Dimitri's bugfuck, Ingrid's a racist towards the Best Person, Dedue, Felix's mad at everyone because Dimitri's bugfuck and Dedue will go along with it, and I guess Dedue is taciturn because he's shutting down because of the whole mass genocide thing.

Starting to think I should've joined the deer! :v: At the least Ingrid is still total dogshit so she's going to the cornfield.

Still think the game should have been about Dedue Getting His Due

e: Dedue Unchained

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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RBA Starblade posted:

I hit more BL supports today and uh so Dimitri's bugfuck, Ingrid's a racist towards the Best Person, Dedue, Felix's mad at everyone because Dimitri's bugfuck and Dedue will go along with it, and I guess Dedue is taciturn because he's shutting down because of the whole mass genocide thing.

Starting to think I should've joined the deer! :v: At the least Ingrid is still total dogshit so she's going to the cornfield.

Still think the game should have been about Dedue Getting His Due

Keep building supports because it would be a shame to miss out on Ingrid the Peg Knight Pegging all the Opposition

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
i enjoy how :black101: lysie has been at the prospect of getting back at the empire post-chapter 17, and especially now that the golden deer endgame is coming with the slitherers

also it's never gonna matter for this run but how in the world do i get a goddess messenger fish and a zanado treasure fruit for the ultimate meal

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Fojar38 posted:

Keep building supports because it would be a shame to miss out on Ingrid the Peg Knight Pegging all the Opposition

:trumppop:

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Boy, I missed out a ton of poo poo by doing the BE route, cause doing Catherine/Ashe paralogue gives a goddamn +1 movement permanent boost :psyduck:

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Tae posted:

Boy, I missed out a ton of poo poo by doing the BE route, cause doing Catherine/Ashe paralogue gives a goddamn +1 movement permanent boost :psyduck:

You can still do that on BE, just gotta recruit Ashe before the Paralogue triggers

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
felix and ashe's B support is locked behind a paralogue

which i literally can't get in what's likely the last time i'll get to explore or do skirmishes before the final fight so i'm guessing it's locked to the blue lions route

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

RBA Starblade posted:

I hit more BL supports today and uh so Dimitri's bugfuck, Ingrid's a racist towards the Best Person, Dedue, Felix's mad at everyone because Dimitri's bugfuck and Dedue will go along with it, and I guess Dedue is taciturn because he's shutting down because of the whole mass genocide thing.

Starting to think I should've joined the deer! :v: At the least Ingrid is still total dogshit so she's going to the cornfield.

Still think the game should have been about Dedue Getting His Due

e: Dedue Unchained

All of those things own, why they making you think you should go Deer?

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Wes Warhammer
Oct 19, 2012

:sueme:

Fojar38 posted:

Blue Lions is gayer because you get to keep Alois

I have some bad news for you.

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