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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:extremely online guy tried to do the new zealand thing where he livestreamed it and posted to 8chan but hosed it up. got taken down by a 75-year-old man. no deaths and only one injury so i feel morally justified in wishing he had managed to livestream himself being taken down by grampy gramp
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:no deaths and only one injury so i feel morally justified in wishing he had managed to livestream himself being taken down by grampy gramp There is a related death, a young woman was found dead in a home at/near the attackers residence that the police are treating as related: (warning: Norwegian) https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/5d4f3154c25d830013b1d764 EDIT: TV2 is reporting the young woman is related to the attacker: https://twitter.com/tv2nyhetene/status/1160297535799361536 Dagbladet also has stuff up about the guy praising the New Zealand shooter and others: https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/skal-ha-hyllet-massemordere-for-moskangrepet/71478775 Which includes this bit from Irfan Mushtaq, a community leader at the mosque (translated by google translate and a bit by me): quote:Mushtaq says that after the New Zealand episode, they installed access barriers in the mosque. After the Breivik attacks, Norway changed their laws around terrorism and charging it so police are actually hesitant to call something terrorism until they're sure they have a decent case for that charge, as calling it "terror" and then walking it back can have adverse affects when trying to prosecute. This seems a bit like bullshit and the papers/TV2 are basically doing the passive-aggressive Norwegian thing of saying "The police chief says they can't confirm its a terror attack at this time but hey here's a bunch of things tying this guy to very terrorism-looking things". This is my analysis as an American living here and talking to Norwegians about it, so weigh that appropriately. Gaukler has issued a correction as of 22:26 on Aug 10, 2019 |
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"Has pled guilty" WaPo. It's present perfect tense.
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Gaukler posted:There is a related death, a young woman was found dead in a home at/near the attackers residence that the police are treating as related: (warning: Norwegian) https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/5d4f3154c25d830013b1d764  all these shooters calling each other lads and cobbers and poo poo is getting annoying.
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failing forward posted:"Has pled guilty" WaPo. It's present perfect tense. https://twitter.com/apstylebook/status/1032266682566418434
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Slugnoid posted:
take that with a grain of salt btw, its what i scratched up when i went wading through the poop on 4chan
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I like to think the saints are electing mass shooters who are complete fuckups that manage to kill nobody and only embarrass themselves.
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a lot of popcorn in the microwave lately https://twitter.com/mattlupoli/status/1160227059777593344 https://twitter.com/HazenWESH/status/1160292071737085952
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:they're using AP style. this is one of those WW1 style trench battles except over language Okay now I am curious: why didn't they write "Has plead guilty" then instead of "Has pleaded"? This is new to me!
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failing forward posted:Okay now I am curious: why didn't they write "Has plead guilty" then instead of "Has pleaded"? This is new to me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiROxRWcvmk BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 23:12 on Aug 10, 2019 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:a lot of popcorn in the microwave lately lmao of course the white terrorist is once again "middle class" jobless, living at home with his parents
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:forget it, bub! it's the AP stylebook! Omfg my poor English language students 😭
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Siljmonster posted:lmao of course the white terrorist is once again "middle class" jobless, living at home with his parents
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Siljmonster posted:lmao of course the white terrorist is once again "middle class" jobless, living at home with his parents I hesitate to even say middle class going by that gate.
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Grape posted:I hesitate to even say middle class going by that gate. sorry if you got a portcullis going up to your medieval moat filled with crocodiles youre not poor
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Siljmonster posted:sorry if you got a portcullis going up to your medieval moat filled with crocodiles youre not poor Hmm yes, pointing out a fancy gate buttressed by hedges is to suggest a downgrade from middle class.
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witnessed something last night actually. was drinking at the bar out on the patio when i heard someone shout "heil hitler!" well that got my attention. popped up and walked over to the patio entrance (fairly big place) and saw two young white guys walking away, with the combatively drunk hitler guy turning around and doing lewd gestures to the woman at the door. they were probably about 50 feet away. i asked her what was up and she said they were being assholes to staff and got kicked out. leaving a little awhile later, i'm going home and i come by another bar and see the same guys getting told to gently caress off by a group of people in front of the place including bar staff while they were trying to tip over a garbage bin in front of it. same guy walks away at about the same distance turns around and starts shouting about "antifaggots." well there you go. so i walk up and ask if this guy has a problem and stand with them for a minute while we watch them disappear. same story. he's drunk and combative and his friend isn't in control of him, etc. this place also kinda functions as a queer hangout too and some people out front looked concerned. one thing to consider is the first bar had probably 100 people in there and it's not the kind of crowd to tolerate that foolishness. the people who go there are young and it's racially diverse and integrated. don't really know the moral of the story. i'm not a tough guy but my guess is that if you see stuff like that, stand up and just put yourself between people like that and the people they're harassing. also carry pepper spray in case they go aggro. but in this case the guy would only say aggro stuff from a good, safe distance after being told to gently caress off.
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i dont even see the land half of their combination rv/yacht, theyre practically under the poverty line
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Grape posted:Hmm yes, pointing out a fancy gate buttressed by hedges is to suggest a downgrade from middle class. get off your loving tower!
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so this guy was playing footsie with atomwaffen, NSM and TWP: https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1160231504716410882 -- hmm https://twitter.com/blkmsk/status/1160300076377530376
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Slugnoid posted:all these shooters calling each other lads and cobbers and poo poo is getting annoying. wtf is a cobber, some sort of ironic appropriation of corn-cobbing? 
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:so this guy was playing footsie with atomwaffen, NSM and TWP: Has Climo made an appearance in the thread before? I vaguely remember the name.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:witnessed something last night actually. was drinking at the bar out on the patio when i heard someone shout "heil hitler!" well that got my attention. popped up and walked over to the patio entrance (fairly big place) and saw two young white guys walking away, with the combatively drunk hitler guy turning around and doing lewd gestures to the woman at the door. they were probably about 50 feet away. i asked her what was up and she said they were being assholes to staff and got kicked out. It is vitally important to keep up the good fight. Here in Greece we have been trying to bash these fuckers for more than a decade, with mixed results. I know that the whole gun culture in the US is making said task a lot more dangerous or/and difficult. You simply cannot give in to apathy though. Your head is in the right place.
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Dante80 posted:It is vitally important to keep up the good fight. Here in Greece we have been trying to bash these fuckers for more than a decade, with mixed results. I know that the whole gun culture in the US is making said task a lot more dangerous or/and difficult. You simply cannot give in to apathy though. Your head is in the right place. The fact that in spite of far more severe problems than most EU countries, that Golden Dawn remains weaker than their equivalents in most of those same better off countries? Is well worth some sort of pat on the back.
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Dante80 posted:It is vitally important to keep up the good fight. Here in Greece we have been trying to bash these fuckers for more than a decade, with mixed results. I know that the whole gun culture in the US is making said task a lot more dangerous or/and difficult. You simply cannot give in to apathy though. Your head is in the right place.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:a lot of popcorn in the microwave lately
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Zeroisanumber posted:Has Climo made an appearance in the thread before? I vaguely remember the name. Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1159966920658976768
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Dante80 posted:It is vitally important to keep up the good fight. Here in Greece we have been trying to bash these fuckers for more than a decade, with mixed results. I know that the whole gun culture in the US is making said task a lot more dangerous or/and difficult. You simply cannot give in to apathy though. Your head is in the right place. i thought greek antifascist organizing was considered successful
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:wtf is a cobber, some sort of ironic appropriation of corn-cobbing? old, old australian slang. it's basically the same as "mate" but it fell out of fashion like 60 years ago after tarrant everyone on 4chan's now a pretend aussie i suppose
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cargo cult posted:i thought greek antifascist organizing was considered successful We are, to a point. And lives were lost for it to happen.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:my takeaway is that fascist terror is designed to attack interpersonal trust and cohesion, and if people don't trust each other enough to back each other up, then that makes the fascist minority (and they are a minority in society) more able to exert power. so being willing to take some personal risks to put yourself on the line and back people up when faced with the threat is a start. The "bad people thrive when good people do nothing" quote has been banging around my head constantly since 2016.
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Pornographic Memory posted:british prisoners fighting the good fight: I get the sense that Tommy's not the smartest guy.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:building the wall to own the libs Did Isaybuildthe wall. Or critique the idea of complete open borders. US has a responsibility for everyone coming in due to its empire. Same for the EU and its members actions in Libya and Syria. Also non coastal wash pd are definitely compromised. Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 00:56 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:my takeaway is that fascist terror is designed to attack interpersonal trust and cohesion, and if people don't trust each other enough to back each other up, then that makes the fascist minority (and they are a minority in society) more able to exert power. so being willing to take some personal risks to put yourself on the line and back people up when faced with the threat is a start. Greece is a weird country, in that we have always (well since the Junta ended at least) had a pretty notable leftist/revolutionary/anarchist movement here. I've been involved in a part of it for my whole life (starting in the mid 90's when I was a student), and it has stayed both strong and relevant. Forces like those of Golden Dawn were extremely small and lacking any kind of popular support. This makes a lot of sense, since Greece had suffered a whole drat lot from the Germans in WWII and even the idea of Neo Nazism here was considered ludicrous. What we saw here is that the economic crisis combined with the migrant crisis (Syria) ballooned support for the extreme right. While ordinary people from all walks of life were out in the streets since 2009, protesting and striking, the fascists were feeding on the dissolution of economic and social structures and redirecting via propaganda - and in some cases state support - the desperation and pain in a part of the populace towards recruitment and radicalization. Sure, we were running anti-fascist patrols here in Athens since the 90's (still remember fondly some of them in Grava - where Golden Dawn was roaming back then to get recruits from students), and there were a lot of incidents and clashes with them. There was a notable change though with the economic crisis. After being on the streets for years, desperation started grasping people. This turned to apathy. Nothing worked, there was nothing you could do anymore. You might as well stay home and die. To really understand the levels of nihilism we reached as a populace (something profoundly weird for our culture), the discontent was enough to thoroughly destroy our two party political system (which had been close to yours in dynamics for decades), and we managed to even elect to power a leftist-progressive government. Which proceeded to thoroughly betray us and continue the cycle of decay (but that is another story). Then, the migrant crisis boomed. Inside the space of one year, literally MILLIONS of people passed through our country to get to other places in Europe, seeking a better life and a way to flee war and death. The Greek populace embraced them fully, opening their homes to house them, their pantries to feed them and their closets to dress them. Everything - and I mean everything - strained to a breaking point though. The masses of people were endless, the resources scarce, the state almost hiding and the populace already exhausted from the economic crisis (to give you some perspective, the official unemployment rate at that point in time was 27% (and 50% for the young), while we had already lost around 45% or everything we earned and had). We were overrun. And then the EU decided to close the borders. Trapping thousands upon thousands of refugees and immigrants here, with no place to go and no supporting mechanism to sustain them. Guess who came out feeding on this desperation and promising a better future without the illegal aliens invading the fatherland and being parasites drinking from our teets. Fascism and neo-nazism was soaring in the meantime. They were out in the streets of Athens en-force, patrolling the neighbourhoods to keep criminality down and giving out food and clothes to destitute and homeless Greeks (while using said activities as propaganda material). Their party was already a legitimate part of our parliament and were using it as a hate soapbox. To cut the long story short, Shehzad Luqman and Paul Fyssas had to die for the populace to finally turn against them. The Greek state had opened a sham investigation against Golden Dawn, but finally started to take it seriously after the death of Fyssas. The antifa movement (always active here) soared again. We were in every loving march and parade they did, shouting our lungs out and punching them to get back tear gas and baton marks from the police that was always protecting them. We burned all their offices down - in an almost monthly basis, hunted every cell in every city, patrolled the streets and hit them when we found them. Here in Athens where I live, I was active in a group at Petralona, where they had an office (this is where Luqman died). Yes, in the end we were successfull. And things are somewhat better now (Golden Dawn didn't even enter the parliament at the last elections, although another nationalist party managed to unfortunately). The cost was great though, and the future is still uncertain. The takeaway here for me is that you cannot let apathy or nihilism stop you from doing what you think is right. Yes, in the grand scheme of things nothing matters. But the way forward is stupidly simple on the matter we are discussing. You see the fash, you bash it. Sorry for my bad English. Dante80 has issued a correction as of 01:29 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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Tollymain posted:good post
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https://twitter.com/SangreDulce1/status/1159999110092611586 what the gently caress
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:a lot of popcorn in the microwave lately he looks like a lovely drawing of a chad that incels wish they were drat poo poo really is bad for the white man 
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