|
FMguru posted:a lot of job interviewing is about testing your ability to follow dumb unspoken rules of corporate culture, and there are good reasons for that
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 18:55
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 18:07 |
|
|
my first “real job” was boring reporting in a hedge fund’s back office. i have never been particularly interested in finance, even potentially sexy quant or hft stuff. i wanted the job because i needed to make rent. but when i got asked why i wanted to work in finance, i didn’t lie - i said “i hadn’t really considered finance before moving here, but i think this would be a really good opportunity to learn about a lot of complex systems that impact my life really directly yet i am completely ignorant of. which was completely true but didn’t require me to be in love with the job i was applying for.
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 18:56
|
|
|
Ciaphas posted:city-based jobsites as I was going hard for the Denver area Not looking again for a while but what sites did you use? Wife and I definitely like the Denver area.
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 19:02
|
|
|
School of How posted:What if they followed up with "I see, but why are you excited about working at this specific node.js company over any other node.js company?" There aren't that many node.js opportunities in this city. I may have mentioned something about how that was unique for here.
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 19:44
|
|
|
KidDynamite posted:Not looking again for a while but what sites did you use? Wife and I definitely like the Denver area. most of my hits as denver area goes came from https://www.builtincolorado.com/ lot of chaff to sift through but it did find the most wheat
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 19:56
|
|
|
E:  thread
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 20:29
|
|
|
Achmed Jones posted:one time I told a person that I liked hiking and she asked me what my favorite trail was. that day still haunts me There is a fundamental difference between true excitement, and fake excitement. By definition, not every job on planet earth is a job worth being excited over. If you are actually excited about hiking, it should be really easy to explain your favorite trail. Just like if Google asked me to explain why I;m excited about working at Google, I'd have no problem going on and on about it because it's not fake. Some random no-name lovely startup thats not achieved anything, not so much.
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 20:50
|
|
|
barkbell posted:There aren't that many node.js opportunities in this city. I may have mentioned something about how that was unique for here. Hmm, sorry but that's a hard sell
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 20:54
|
|
|
raminasi posted:my first “real job” was boring reporting in a hedge fund’s back office. i have never been particularly interested in finance, even potentially sexy quant or hft stuff. i wanted the job because i needed to make rent. but when i got asked why i wanted to work in finance, i didn’t lie - i said “i hadn’t really considered finance before moving here, but i think this would be a really good opportunity to learn about a lot of complex systems that impact my life really directly yet i am completely ignorant of. which was completely true but didn’t require me to be in love with the job i was applying for. I was never even asked this question for the first 5 or 6 years after I graduated college. Companies didn't ask me, because they probably didn't care. They needed programmer talent, and they knew I had that talent, and nothing else mattered. Only since 2012 or so has this question became more and more common.
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 21:09
|
|
|
Hey NotoriousBSD I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds. But not for your reason, still thought you would appreciate it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 21:17
|
|
|
dammit how!!! go back to the gray thread and stop making GBS threads up this one
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 21:40
|
|
|
School of How posted:There is a fundamental difference between true excitement, and fake excitement. By definition, not every job on planet earth is a job worth being excited over. If you are actually excited about hiking, it should be really easy to explain your favorite trail. Just like if Google asked me to explain why I;m excited about working at Google, I'd have no problem going on and on about it because it's not fake. Some random no-name lovely startup thats not achieved anything, not so much. work sucks, get over yourself
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 22:19
|
|
Failed Sega Accessory Ahoy!
|
School of How posted:Hmm, sorry but that's a hard sell welcome to nebraska
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 22:42
|
|
|
barkbell posted:welcome to nebraska had you considered not living in nebraska
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 22:46
|
|
|
Notorious b.s.d. posted:had you considered not living in nebraska i've done it before and would like to do it again
|
|
#
?
Aug 11, 2019 23:55
|
|
|
Menacer posted:friend, you sound insufferable and i dont think i would want to work with you
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 00:39
|
|
|
Blinkz0rz posted:dammit how!!! go back to the gray thread and stop making GBS threads up this one
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 00:42
|
|
|
barkbell posted:i've done it before and would like to do it again As the coasts get hotter and more ecologically hosed up, I legit think tech people are going to start looking at smaller midwestern cities like Omaha and Des Moines - DM in particular is growing pretty quickly yet doing a very good job of keeping things walkable/sustainable. Would love to see them start investing in light rail though. And high speed rail to connect to Omaha and Minneapolis.... a man can dream.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 01:47
|
|
|
pathetic little tramp posted:As the coasts get hotter and more ecologically hosed up, I legit think tech people are going to start looking at smaller midwestern cities like Omaha and Des Moines - DM in particular is growing pretty quickly yet doing a very good job of keeping things walkable/sustainable. Would love to see them start investing in light rail though. And high speed rail to connect to Omaha and Minneapolis.... a man can dream. hahah no way dude Omaha and Minneapolis are already 100% uninhabitable for like 3 months every summer. The state bird of Minnesota is the mosquito, if you try to go outside in July you will bleed to death in ~60 minutes. there is no way either of those swampy hellholes gets any better with climate change
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 02:05
|
|
|
bofa dees moines
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 02:10
|
|
|
pathetic little tramp posted:As the coasts get hotter and more ecologically hosed up, I legit think tech people are going to start looking at smaller midwestern cities like Omaha and Des Moines - DM in particular is growing pretty quickly yet doing a very good job of keeping things walkable/sustainable. Would love to see them start investing in light rail though. And high speed rail to connect to Omaha and Minneapolis.... a man can dream. omaha and des moines are both inside the new american dust bowl. temperatures are rising, the "rain line" is moving north and east, and the ogallala aquifer, which provides virtually all the non-precipitation water, is depleting faster than anticipated in a nutshell, agriculture will become impossible in iowa and nebraska inside our lifetimes sure i guess after the major industries literally dry up and blow away, and summer temperatures are over 100F, and dust storms are common, then omaha and des moines will be hot tech tickets who doesn't love living in a wind-scoured desert with no local economy to speak of
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 02:11
|
|
|
KidDynamite posted:Hey NotoriousBSD I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds. But not for your reason, still thought you would appreciate it. you didn't buy them to wear to work?
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 02:11
|
|
|
just got off the phone with my dad who mentioned that he has a friend looking for computer touching work and was getting discouraged by the bullshit interview grind. his friend is 50 and looking for IC work in the east bay. my answer was basically "hoo boy." i can't imagine what it's like to have been a professional software developer for decades, having to get a new job because your company went under or whatever, and getting repeatedly bounced by 24-year-olds who didn't think you whiteboarded a queue using only stacks or whatever well enough (but it has nothing to do with your age, honest!!!)
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 02:48
|
|
|
pathetic little tramp posted:As the coasts get hotter and more ecologically hosed up, I legit think tech people are going to start looking at smaller midwestern cities like Omaha and Des Moines - DM in particular is growing pretty quickly yet doing a very good job of keeping things walkable/sustainable. Would love to see them start investing in light rail though. And high speed rail to connect to Omaha and Minneapolis.... a man can dream. nah, neither of those Denver is already halfway there. might as well overreact and get as far above sea level as possible
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 02:55
|
|
|
Have a backup plan, even if you're really at your job nobody is going to hire you as a developer past 40 or so. The look of disappointment and shock when you first jump on a video call for an interview with some 24 year old is real. It gets so loving tiresome after a few months.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 02:57
|
|
|
Captain Foo posted:bofa dees moines
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 03:30
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:Have a backup plan, even if you're really at your job nobody is going to hire you as a developer past 40 or so. Yeah, ageism is supposed to not be a thing, but seriously that is why I am working very hard at saving enough that I can maybe just go back to operating a crane from 40 to 50 and retire.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 03:31
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:hahah no way dude Omaha and Minneapolis are already 100% uninhabitable for like 3 months every summer. The state bird of Minnesota is the mosquito, if you try to go outside in July you will bleed to death in ~60 minutes. mosquittoes are only a problem if you're on a lake and it does not get hotter than the valley
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 04:36
|
|
|
minnesota is only uninhabitable in the summer to minnesotans, it is seriously not that bad
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 04:55
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:hahah no way dude Omaha and Minneapolis are already 100% uninhabitable for like 3 months every summer. The state bird of Minnesota is the mosquito, if you try to go outside in July you will bleed to death in ~60 minutes. every place south of Minneapolis is worse for those same three months so IDK what you're getting at?
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 06:34
|
|
|
Minneapolis is uninhabitable for 3 months of the year but it is not those three months
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 10:54
|
|
|
I was in mpls for a conference in early October and it was still oppressively muggy and hot don't fool yourselves with this "three month" nonsense
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 13:09
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:Have a backup plan, even if you're really at your job nobody is going to hire you as a developer past 40 or so. I mean, sucks to be you, but I don't think this true in general at all. (Granted a) I work in embedded and b) I'm not in Silicon Valley)
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 13:10
|
|
|
raminasi posted:if you actually cannot think of a single reason you could potentially be interested in the work then you’re going to have a bad time even if they hire you. like if your entire train of thought is “ugh, it’s not like they’re google” then a busted process may not be the main problem here. It really isn't. Check out the last couple of pages of the Oldie Programmers thread in the CoC.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 13:14
|
|
|
aeflux posted:I was in mpls for a conference in early October and it was still oppressively muggy and hot the whole Midwest is like that hth
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 13:35
|
|
|
Growing up there, I don't feel it as that bad - but after living in California for 5 years, I can see how people feel that way. To me, the midwest is really only unbearable for about 2 weeks in August. However, after having lived in Florida for a year, I'm done forever complaining about humidity. This place is not going to be fit for human habitation in ten years, the wet bulb temp is going to be reaching 50c for months at a time.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 14:39
|
|
|
Munkeymon posted:the whole Midwest is like that hth everywhere east of the dry line is like that
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 14:42
|
|
|
KidDynamite posted:Hey NotoriousBSD I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds. But not for your reason, still thought you would appreciate it. buy your Allen Edmonds while you can because as a company they are beyond hosed also why are you arguing Des Moines for climate change refuge? when we’re really hosed climate-wise, fresh water will be where everyone heads, meaning the Great Lakes. Green Bay, MKE, Chicago, Cleveland, those will be the places Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Aug 12, 2019 |
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 14:55
|
|
|
maybe not Cleveland
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 15:08
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 18:07 |
|
|
Lol I left Gary Indiana out for a reason
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2019 15:10
|
|