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Honest Thief posted:What's the word on dlc btw, any news? They've told when the DLC will be published and a rough idea what's in it. The first one will be in October and it's just new items and more auxiliary maps with better drops. There will be another one in December which is new outfits and new monastery quests, so it's another trash DLC. Though they will be releasing a free update at the same time, so that's probably lunatic difficulty.
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Do note that Sylvain gets a really good combat art with A lances
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Honest Thief posted:Do Armor Knights just kinda suck? Low movement, and not that great of dmg output. I guess for tanking dmg they're worth but they could have some sort of aggro ability. ive documented this itt but Ashe was the first unit I poached for the Golden Deer class and he did not return to my roster immediately post timeskip He showed up as an enemy in chapter 15 and after having Byleth defeat him I got the option to spare him and all was well
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Harrow posted:Speaking of Blue Lions: any tips for what to do with Sylvain? Is it worth training up his heavy armor for Great Knight or would he be okay just chilling as a Paladin? I noticed his budding talent points him towards Dark Knight but his magic growth is nothing special. I’d say train him in Heavy Armor just to have the option in your back pocket. If nothing else, he can get Weight -3 and pass the Fortress Knight exam for the defense bonus. I sent him Brigand -> Paladin. Great Knight soon.
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My Golden Deer run has Petra/Ingrid/Anette being recruited because they are all supports for Claude (which can only be seen in GD route), and I am putting both Petra and Ingrid as flyers. So I decided to make GD my flyer run, with Claude, Byleth, Hilda, Marianne, Petra and Ingrid as flying units 
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Arkeus posted:My Golden Deer run has Petra/Ingrid/Anette being recruited because they are all supports for Claude (which can only be seen in GD route), and I am putting both Petra and Ingrid as flyers. Needs more fliers
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Andrast posted:Do note that Sylvain gets a really good combat art with A lances Looking it up, it doesn't look really good? Sylvain already has high spd growth, so a combat art that is 'you double' is probably the same as just auto attacking on almost all enemies. Andrast posted:Needs more fliers Forgot to include Leonie, yeah. She is one too.
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Arkeus posted:Looking it up, it doesn't look really good? Sylvain already has high spd growth, so a combat art that is 'you double' is probably the same as just auto attacking on almost all enemies. It turns every lance into a Brave weapon which is really strong. It's really stupid with something like a killer lance or Lance of Ruin. That skill alone carried my otherwise mediocre Sylvain on my team. Also Cavalier/Paladin/Great Knight all give -10 speed growth which hampers it quite a bit if you go the mounted route. Obviously less of an issue with you go flier. Andrast fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Aug 13, 2019 |
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I haven’t had any good ideas on what to do with Sylvain yet aside from “paladin with Lance of Ruin I guess??”
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Chocolate Bunny posted:Cyril's fine when the writers let him do something other than talk about how much he loves Rhea. he also sucks when he talks about how much he loves working hard or gets mad at people for trying to help
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I haven’t had any good ideas on what to do with Sylvain yet aside from “paladin with Lance of Ruin I guess??” It's basically all you need. If he turns out ok stat-wise then he'll rip poo poo up. Take him through Brigand for Death Blow, then Cavalier -> Paladin is all he really has to do, Great Knight is probably optional but if you want to, go for it. DLC Inc posted:Recruited Shamir randomly but since I'm in the Golden Deer, feels like having another Sniper alongside people with bow skills like Leonie/Ignatz/Claude is overkill. Leonie is a cavalier for me but wondering how viable it will be to move Claude to something else besides an archer archetype down the line, since he seems to have aptitude towards learning a lot of poo poo. His unique classes are wyvern archers, if that makes him more interesting. Otherwise, he has good Flying and hidden Axes, so you could just make him a Wyvern Rider/Lord? He has bad Lances but you don't need it for Rider, and only need C for Lord (and could probably get away with D or D+ if you're willing to roll the dice on exams). Coucho Marx fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Aug 13, 2019 |
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Recruited Shamir randomly but since I'm in the Golden Deer, feels like having another Sniper alongside people with bow skills like Leonie/Ignatz/Claude is overkill. Leonie is a cavalier for me but wondering how viable it will be to move Claude to something else besides an archer archetype down the line, since he seems to have aptitude towards learning a lot of poo poo.
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Arkeus posted:
Couldn't find a full-grown dragon for Raphael?
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Coucho Marx posted:It's basically all you need. If he turns out ok stat-wise then he'll rip poo poo up. Take him through Brigand for Death Blow, then Cavalier -> Paladin is all he really has to do, Great Knight is probably optional but if you want to, go for it. “Take otherwise middling Blue Lions melee unit through Brigand for Death Blow” seems to be a running theme for this run (since I’m also doing it for Ashe and Ingrid)
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Coucho Marx posted:
nice, Claude actually mentioned "I wanna work towards wyvern poo poo" so I've been putting him on Flying gruntwork for lessons a lot, boosting his Flying skill level by a shitload.
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game's been out for a few weeks but i'm only just getting into it now. picked blue lions, only about 3-4 main missions in (just beat the first fog of war map). everyone please stop praying for felix, you are making him too strong
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Felix is the Lon'Qu / Guy / Joshua / etc sword demon of the game and I love him. Have used him quite a bit in trying to permanently recruit him.
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DLC Inc posted:nice, Claude actually mentioned "I wanna work towards wyvern poo poo" so I've been putting him on Flying gruntwork for lessons a lot, boosting his Flying skill level by a shitload. Training his flying and getting him Alert Stance as a result probably saved his rear end a lot lategame when I had him do quite a bit of dodge tanking with significant chance of death as an aside
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Trying to decide what to do for Ch. 5 of my Eagles run. I’ve been trying to recruit Sylvain (as M!Byleth, because I’m an idiot) but I know he has unique dialogue for this chapter and I really wanna save it for my Lions playthrough. I’ve already got Lysithea, so there’s no one else I want to recruit right now either
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also i gave dedue some gauntlets and  gauntlets are OP as gently caress, seriously what the hell. dude's defense is so high i slap an axe on him, park his rear end at edge of enemy range, and wait to give him +4 def. rally him with annette for additional strength. idiots waltz up, tink off his burly chest, and eat an axe for their troubles. then he gets a guaranteed double hit they can't react to when i gauntlet them next turn so far the only units i have that don't feel at least baseline powerful is... sylvain? he's ok. he's started learning magic and feeling better so i might move him into some form of dark knight, if they're still around. ashe seems a bit weak but most archers do until you get levels under their belt. ingrid isn't strong but looking at the stats she has right now screams pegasus knight so i'll send her in that direction probably. everyone else is nutty though. magic in this game is big powerful. felix and dedue are superstars. blue lions is a good house trying to recruit other students but not really going out of my way stat-wise. just having lots of dinners and sharing gifts. i'm probably playing suboptimally by not maxing out my own students motivation through dinners or some poo poo but they're already at C rank with stats i care about most and i'm like 3 missions in, so, i'm fine, probably
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Dedue and Annette are the royalty of murder mountain and the other units are there too I guess
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Andrast posted:Claude also gets a prf sword It requires A Swords, and he just gets more healing from it compared to anyone else. Not really worth pursuing when you could just hand it to your Assassin or other top sword user.
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for people who have played normal/hard: what's the big difference in the hard difficulty? more enemies? higher stats for enemies/better AI decisions? all I know is that it limits how many times you can do a Battle for each week I think.
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Basically from what I’m getting itt Sylvain’s hidden talent for reason is a trap and it’s not worth taking him down the dark knight path
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:“Take otherwise middling Blue Lions melee unit through Brigand for Death Blow” seems to be a running theme for this run (since I’m also doing it for Ashe and Ingrid) Turns out having +6 dmg/hit (hello, gauntlets and Brave weapons!) on your turn is really good, and anyone with slightly dodgy Str growth can use that boost. Same with Fiendish Blow on Mage - Linhardt is just my heal/warp Bishop bot, but I sent him through Mage instead of Priest because if he has to Excalibur a bitch, by golly he's going to do it with all the power that lazy poo poo can muster (also Mage gets slightly better Mag growth, and Miracle sucks)
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RBA Starblade posted:Dedue and Annette are the royalty of murder mountain and the other units are there too I guess Lysithea is better than Annette in basically every way (especially when she gets her relic) but annette is cool if you don't recruit her i guess.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:Lysithea is better than Annette in basically every way (especially when she gets her relic) but annette is cool if you don't recruit her i guess. Annette is way cooler than Lysithea though also Annette gets a cool axe Andrast fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Aug 13, 2019 |
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:Lysithea is better than Annette in basically every way (especially when she gets her relic) but annette is cool if you don't recruit her i guess. I haven't yet because she refuses to hit B support!
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Lysithea is probably the best character in the game so it's not exactly a damming condemnation of annette if she's worse
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You know what's better than having the best mage in the game? Having the best mage in the game and the second-best mage who is also the best girl. (Okay, actually the second best mage is probably Hubert. But Annette is still the best.  )
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Lysithea doesn’t make cool songs so she’s automatically worse than Annette.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Basically from what I’m getting itt Sylvain’s hidden talent for reason is a trap and it’s not worth taking him down the dark knight path is it a trap or is it just not optimal because tbh i just make choices based on style and fun
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:You know what's better than having the best mage in the game?
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second best mage is probably flayn imo. She's not the best offensively but having rescue and fortify makes up for a hell of a lot
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Kaubocks posted:is it a trap or is it just not optimal because tbh i just make choices based on style and fun Just not optimal and this game really isn't hard enough to need any optimization
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Andrast posted:Just not optimal and this game really isn't hard enough to need any optimization now that's what i like to hear sylvain come here i have a horse you need to ride
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I haven't played past BE, but looking at her stats and stuff, Annette just seems guilty of being the most boring offensive mage? Her growths are good but nothing special, and her spell list is fairly plain but gets the job done, only Excalibur stands out. Rally Str is nice and meshes with her other rallies but doesn't help her offense, and her Crest occasionally preserves a magic use but as a Warlock even her lowest-count spell has 8 charges, so it kinda falls off as the game goes on. Lysithea is obviously bonkers. Hubert is the other dark mage and has two 1-3 range spells which helps positioning a lot. Dorothea gets Thoron for an early 1-3 range spell, Physic, and loving Meteor, which Hanneman also learns. Linhardt, Mercedes, and Marianne are all healers who can sling a damage spell pretty hard. Lorenz, Felix, Sylvain, and Edelgard are all potential hybrids (though only the first two are likely to work out at all).
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Andrast posted:Annette is way cooler than Lysithea though nah quote:also Annette gets a cool axe ok there's that and being the best rallybot in the game i guess still though i like their support chain because they're both tryhard girls and feed off of each other for it 
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Kaubocks posted:also i gave dedue some gauntlets and Gauntlets are basically just all brave weapons. They guarantee a double on player phase but have really low might. That low might is supposed to be a weakness but the characters who are good with gauntlets just happen to have crazy strength growth (Caspar, Dedue, Raphael, and Byleth are the standouts) which easily offsets the low might on the gauntlets themselves. At this point I don't know why you'd ever use an axe on a non-flying unit because just about everyone who is good at axes is probably better off with gauntlets if they're on the ground. Edelgard and Hilda are potential exceptions if for some reason you don't make them both Wyvern Lords.
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