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Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

CoolCab posted:

would it be? like, we have to get all our assholes most of the way across the globe, they basically need enough dingies and dudes.

It's like the international version of bumfights.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 14:58

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Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

The insane and useless bombing run during the war required less mid flight refueling than getting the f35 across the Atlantic lol

# ? Aug 14, 2019 15:00

it dont matter: Aug 29, 2008

Argentina is better off just waiting for us to get desperate enough to sell it.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 15:02

Grape: Nov 16, 2017; Happily shilling for China!

CoolCab posted:

like nominally you're some sort of socialist, right? there is no war but class war and there never was anything but. i couldn't give two shits about the union and never did.

*to IRA, EOKA, Mau-Mau etc*
"flags are just like....colored paper man. You should be fighting to turn the British Empire socialist! Duh!"

# ? Aug 14, 2019 15:10

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

Grape posted:

*to IRA, EOKA, Mau-Mau etc*
"flags are just like....colored paper man. You should be fighting to turn the British Empire socialist! Duh!"

it's almost like the "liberation" part is important there, instead of "nation".

nationalism and by extension nations are innately unethical - take blood and soil, add a PR department and you get citizenship and borders. you can sometimes achieve superior outcomes using unethical tools, and there are circumstances where that is justified. fortunately, scotland is an entirely appropriate comparison to loving colonial era kenya, so that's fine.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 15:33

Grape: Nov 16, 2017; Happily shilling for China!

CoolCab posted:

it's almost like the "liberation" part is important there, instead of "nation".

nationalism and by extension nations are innately unethical - take blood and soil, add a PR department and you get citizenship and borders. you can sometimes achieve superior outcomes using unethical tools, and there are circumstances where that is justified. fortunately, scotland is an entirely appropriate comparison to loving colonial era kenya, so that's fine.

Sorry but anytime someone throws out "no war but class war" one kind of has to remind them about those other wars.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 15:59

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

Grape posted:

Sorry but anytime someone throws out "no war but class war" one kind of has to remind them about those other wars.

oft when i think about colonialist imperialism in africa, i'm struck how there was no class element whatsoever. the settlers and colonizers of course promoted a perfectly egalitarian society, and the uprisings were entirely about business tax rates.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 16:04

marktheando: Nov 4, 2006

What do you think about the Irish and the Welsh Coolcab, is it ok for them to want to be independent? How about Canada, should it still be a dominion?

# ? Aug 14, 2019 16:07

Grape: Nov 16, 2017; Happily shilling for China!

CoolCab posted:

oft when i think about colonialist imperialism in africa, i'm struck how there was no class element whatsoever. the settlers and colonizers of course promoted a perfectly egalitarian society, and the uprisings were entirely about business tax rates.

Truly the only negatives of imperialism were economic.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 16:20

Bryter: Nov 6, 2011; but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

If Scots want independence good for them, but lol at the idea that their situation is anything remotely comprable to actual colonies of the British empire

Grape posted:

*to IRA, EOKA, Mau-Mau etc*
"flags are just like....colored paper man. You should be fighting to turn the British Empire socialist! Duh!"

Ironically enough the IRA in the 60s basically agreed with this, which is why the provos split off

# ? Aug 14, 2019 16:21

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

marktheando posted:

What do you think about the Irish and the Welsh Coolcab, is it ok for them to want to be independent? How about Canada, should it still be a dominion?

it's okay for everyone to want to be independent - part of that want is articulating ideas and arguments towards it. if those arguments are nationalist, which in Scotland's case they almost entirely are, then i will probably be opposed on principle. i can conceptualize non-nationalist independence movements although it's hard to name an example.

as for the specifics, no firm opinion on the welsh and i could sit here for probably literal hours and critique the deeply, deeply vile elements of canadian nationhood and nationalism. i grew up in part of the country that was overwhelmingly indigenous, it ain't hard. i really could care less about some abstract concept of nation - hell, where i'm from only voted away dominion in 1949, i got first aunts and uncles who were born under the English Yolke, it's probably less of a zinger than you're implying.

i basically don't ever post about irish nationalism or ireland in general. i don't really feel like going into it in any depth but trust when i say the harm of nationalism is global and has far, far reaching consequences.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 16:32

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

https://twitter.com/BrainTaylorBBC/status/1161313756401537026

"My work here is done."

"You hosed a couple kids."

*Chuckling*, "Did I?" *Vanishes into thin air."

# ? Aug 14, 2019 17:07

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

Grape posted:

Truly the only negatives of imperialism were economic.

oh i missed this, apologies. there's a reason that the materialist conception of history tends to generate far more compelling analysis than the alternatives: examining material realities is the first step towards addressing their inequalities. i would go further, obviously, and try an intersectionalist approach to many things it fails to address but for my money it has to be in that order.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 17:10

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Boris Johnson: Brexit opponents 'collaborating' with the eu

I think it's called "negotiation" but I dunno I certainly never served as a foreign secretary unlike Orange Boy junior

BBC posted:

A No 10 source accused Mr Hammond of undermining the UK's negotiating stance, and said he "did everything he could" to block preparations for leaving whilst he was in office.

The former chancellor rejected this suggestion in a tweet, saying he wanted to deliver Brexit "and voted to do so three times".

Labour MP Mary Creagh said Mr Johnson's accusation that MPs were collaborating with the European Union was a "wicked lie".

"MPs trying to stop his catastrophic no-deal Brexit are true patriots," she tweeted.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 17:31

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

OhFunny posted:

https://twitter.com/BrainTaylorBBC/status/1161313756401537026

"My work here is done."

"You hosed a couple kids."

*Chuckling*, "Did I?" *Vanishes into thin air."

love to get a doctors excuse for loving children

# ? Aug 14, 2019 17:46

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

https://i.imgur.com/PakxsoB.mp4

the cat begs for brexit

# ? Aug 14, 2019 17:53

Party Boat: Nov 1, 2007; where did that other dog come from

who is he

OhFunny posted:

https://twitter.com/BrainTaylorBBC/status/1161313756401537026

"My work here is done."

"You hosed a couple kids."

*Chuckling*, "Did I?" *Vanishes into thin air."

Nice parody account

# ? Aug 14, 2019 18:06

marktheando: Nov 4, 2006

CoolCab posted:

it's okay for everyone to want to be independent - part of that want is articulating ideas and arguments towards it. if those arguments are nationalist, which in Scotland's case they almost entirely are, then i will probably be opposed on principle. i can conceptualize non-nationalist independence movements although it's hard to name an example.

as for the specifics, no firm opinion on the welsh and i could sit here for probably literal hours and critique the deeply, deeply vile elements of canadian nationhood and nationalism. i grew up in part of the country that was overwhelmingly indigenous, it ain't hard. i really could care less about some abstract concept of nation - hell, where i'm from only voted away dominion in 1949, i got first aunts and uncles who were born under the English Yolke, it's probably less of a zinger than you're implying.

i basically don't ever post about irish nationalism or ireland in general. i don't really feel like going into it in any depth but trust when i say the harm of nationalism is global and has far, far reaching consequences.

It's like you almost get that you are being too black and white on this issue.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 18:55

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

marktheando posted:

It's like you almost get that you are being too black and white on this issue.

hrm, no, i don't think so. nationalism is a moral atrocity, you need to be black and white on those issues. if not then, when?

# ? Aug 14, 2019 19:03

A Big Fuckin Hornet: Nov 1, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

"nationalist" doesnt exactly mean the same thing when there isnt even a nation yet.

i mean yes abolish borders and everything but in the meantime Britain still exists.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 19:11

marktheando: Nov 4, 2006

CoolCab posted:

hrm, no, i don't think so. nationalism is a moral atrocity, you need to be black and white on those issues. if not then, when?

Please try to recognise the difference between �this place should be governed independently� and Nigel Farage.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 19:20

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

marktheando posted:

Please try to recognise the difference between �this place should be governed independently� and Nigel Farage.

the former will always be used by the latter as they are stages of the same disease.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 19:31

Coohoolin: Aug 5, 2012; Oor Coohoolie.

And therefore to beat nigel Farage the whole world should be under British rule and anyone who says otherwise is excusing fascism

# ? Aug 14, 2019 19:48

Squizzle: Apr 24, 2008

https://mobile.twitter.com/WinstonDNA/status/1161640671121465344

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:15

Coohoolin: Aug 5, 2012; Oor Coohoolie.

Squizzle posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/WinstonDNA/status/1161640671121465344

Does... does this person think it's "crazy" to suggest the GFA might be undermined by the UK? I'm trying to think of the exact level of awareness someone has to have to both know what the GFA is and also not know what Brexit might do to it.

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:23

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

robert downey jr's blog is a fun read every time i remember it exists

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:25

Grape: Nov 16, 2017; Happily shilling for China!

CoolCab posted:

the former will always be used by the latter as they are stages of the same disease.

Black Panthers and the KKK are basically the same because

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:28

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

CoolCab posted:

the former will always be used by the latter as they are stages of the same disease.

there's a lot of colonized people out there who want self-determination, you'll have to take up the white communist's burden to teach them the error of their ways

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:33

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

Grape posted:

*to IRA, EOKA, Mau-Mau etc*
"flags are just like....colored paper man. You should be fighting to turn the British Empire socialist! Duh!"

Grape posted:

Black Panthers and the KKK are basically the same because

again you are going to bat for scottish nationalism here, right? these comparisons are vile holy poo poo

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:38

Obliterati: Nov 13, 2012; Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

Reminder that this all started when I suggested the Chagossians deserve their home back, a point abandoned in the rush to condemn the disloyal Jock

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:40

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

Doc Hawkins posted:

there's a lot of colonized people out there who want self-determination, you'll have to take up the white communist's burden to teach them the error of their ways

hey pst check this poo poo out: i see an american who desperately needs a nationalism they're not ashamed of :ssh:

goliaths always paint themselves david

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:41

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

I must say the reception in this thread is oppressive, why I�m a modern Martin Luther King for I too have a dream, to shitpost. in many ways being mean to me online is like the massacre of the cossacks

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:50

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

you, an idiot: nationalism is bad

me, an intellectual: the true scourge is k n i f e c r i m e

https://twitter.com/ukhomeoffice/status/1161629920856084481

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:58

Avirosb: Nov 21, 2016; Everyone makes pisstakes

Brexception

# ? Aug 14, 2019 20:58

V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

you, an idiot: nationalism is bad

me, an intellectual: the true scourge is k n i f e c r i m e

https://twitter.com/ukhomeoffice/status/1161629920856084481

someone thought this was a good use of public money

jesus wept

# ? Aug 14, 2019 21:04

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

CoolCab posted:

hey pst check this poo poo out: i see an american who desperately needs a nationalism they're not ashamed of

goliaths always paint themselves david

Where would I get such a nationalism? I'm a descendent of colonists. What's the plan you're putting on me?

# ? Aug 14, 2019 21:05

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

you, an idiot: nationalism is bad

me, an intellectual: the true scourge is k n i f e c r i m e

https://twitter.com/ukhomeoffice/status/1161629920856084481

i laughed at first, but this is open-air prison poo poo

# ? Aug 14, 2019 21:07