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SpaceCadetBob posted:Hey, it isn’t as bad as raw sewage. And hell, raw sewage isn’t as bad as grease traps. I'm not finding any news articles, which seems strange, but who knows what goes on in small towns with corporate newspapers these days. From memory, there's a well-regarded Chinese place in the valley. They randomly closed, "For repairs," according to a sign on their door. It took months upon months before they re-opened. The story I heard was that the surrounding businesses started having problems with their plumbing backing up, and eventually it was discovered that the restaurant had been dumping grease down their drains. For well over a decade. When the owner found out how much he was on the hook for (basically, replacing the sewer system under a couple blocks), he peaced out to China and hasn't been seen since. They've since reopened as if nothing ever happened, but under new ownership.
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Sagebrush posted:yep they blew a whole lotta holes in the desert up there Its actually pretty amazing how close Area 51 is to a nuclear test site of that many detonations. Thats gotta be what, just 10 miles? Not even?
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Gresh posted:Its actually pretty amazing how close Area 51 is to a nuclear test site of that many detonations. Thats gotta be what, just 10 miles? Not even? Google Maps says ~13 miles from the Sedan crater to roughly the center of the buildings in Area 51.
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Area 51 doesn't have a great track record with employee health & welfare. What, you don't want to sit downwind of open pit incineration of *TOP SECRET* ultra carcinogenic and who-the-gently caress-knows-what-else-kind-of-toxic F-117 paint?
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Potential BFF posted:Area 51 doesn't have a great track record with employee health & welfare. What, you don't want to sit downwind of *REDACTED* of *TOP SECRET* ultra *REDACTED* and who-the-*REDACTED*-knows-what-else-kind-of- *REDACTED*?
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Log082 posted:That's not really that disturbing, I've worked on similar projects with bones from other regions. It's actually really tricky to do right, because "real" bone is nice and wet and in the middle of flesh, which are things lab conditions are not great at recreating. Embalmed or even just dry bone doesn't really behave the same way at all. On the other hand, if you just stick a chunk of fresh leg or whatever into your test machine, you don't actually learn anything about the bone, because you have all the flesh in the way. Finding a method to get just bone, but realistic bone, is pretty tricky. Zombie Go Boom is an ordinarily awful channel, but they do have the benefit of testing their weapons on custom multi-layer skulls that use bone analogue plastic surrounded by foam with similar density to human flesh, so the testing is more realistic than just whacking coconuts or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2NgLGuYpvo
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Aug 15, 2019 02:26
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BMan posted:way to bury the lede, cbs news Getting blown up is one thing as that produces useful medical data but getting played with like a Ken/Barbie doll by a 5 year old is disgraceful and wasteful.
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Aug 15, 2019 02:33
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:Oh man, I think I finally have an excuse to go to Vegas with my parents on their annual pilgrimage to [checks notes] visit a decorative arts and crafts convention. Another nuclear-age place to go is Atomic Liquors. It seems like a random dive bar on Fremont Street now, but it was founded in 1952 and got the first package liquor license and off-sales permit in the city: #00001. Customers would gather on the roof to watch nuclear tests going off in the distance while everyone else was finding the expensive hotel and casino sky rooms to do it. The inside hasn't changed much and they served as one of the inspirations for the Atomic Wrangler in Fallout New Vegas. Also if you have freedom with a car, take the Courier's route from Goodsprings around south through Primm, Nipton, Searchlight, and Boulder City. Goodsprings loving loves Fallout tourists and has gifts from fans they've put on display in the cafe that used to be the general store, and they have a surprisingly massive liquor selection in the saloon. There's walls out back showing who donated to the saloon or paid to film stuff there to keep it running, which includes a whole segment for Fallout fans who gave donations. chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Aug 15, 2019 |
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cosmo sex tip posted:you can read Mary Roach's fun pop-sci book "Stiff" for a good general going-over of the various things human corpses go through these days There's a chapter in Mary Roach's book about the military, "Grunt", that's mostly about using corpses to develop and test vehicles that will protect the soldiers inside from explosions (mines or IED) underneath. They strap three cadavers to a test platform on a tower, then detonate the explosives underneath. They go up, they come down, and then they get carefully, gently dissected by respectful white-clad (or maybe olive-drab-clad) scientists. She makes the same point about general misconceptions regarding what happens to your corpse if you donate it, and briefly discusses the implications for squeamish people. There's probably a very fine line between being willing to have your face peeled off over a 3-day intensive lab course and being willing to have your head kicked by a bomb over 3 milliseconds. I'd be OK with either, it's not like I'll be using this meatsack anymore. chitoryu12 posted:Also if you have freedom with a car, take the Courier's route from Goodsprings around south through Primm, Nipton, Searchlight, and Boulder City. Goodsprings loving loves Fallout tourists and has gifts from fans they've put on display in the cafe that used to be the general store, and they have a surprisingly massive liquor selection in the saloon. There's walls out back showing who donated to the saloon or paid to film stuff there to keep it running, which includes a whole segment for Fallout fans who gave donations. For some reason, it never occurred to me that the places in Fallout: New Vegas were real places in the real world with the same real names. I always just assumed they employed creative license and the basic excuse of "it's fiction set 200 years in the future, after a global nuclear war" to cover the differences. The next time somebody invites me to go to Vegas with them, I should say "yes" then go on a 2-day Nukes and and Fallout tour around the area.
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chitoryu12 posted:Another nuclear-age place to go is Atomic Liquors. It seems like a random dive bar on Fremont Street now, but it was founded in 1952 and got the first package liquor license and off-sales permit in the city: #00001. Customers would gather on the roof to watch nuclear tests going off in the distance while everyone else was finding the expensive hotel and casino sky rooms to do it. The inside hasn't changed much and they served as one of the inspirations for the Atomic Wrangler in Fallout New Vegas. Good looking out, thanks! I will have a car. Probably not a lot of freedom to go out drinking, but nuclear history is 300% my jam, so I would absolutely go visit those places.
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Icon Of Sin posted:I had the Ahahahahah, yeah, people think water doesn't just go bad in a closed system. It does. It absolutely does. Plain ol' tap water can rot, and it's always for some reason some of the most sulfurous stank imaginable.
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cosmo sex tip posted:
I have been watching Six Feet Under, and learned of that book when someone was giving it as a gift to David. I paused to google it and see if it was real. When I found out that it was, I thought it might be interesting to check it out. You have now given me second thoughts. (BTW, it is a stellar tv show, and anyone who hasn't seen it should check it out. I am not sure I have ever cared so much about what happens to fictional characters.)
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Can I leave my body to science on the proviso that they have to do something fun with it? Like chuck it out of a high-altitude weather balloon to see what falling from space does to somebody, or fire it out if one if those chicken cannons to see how much damage an adult human does to a jet engine.
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cosmo sex tip posted:people think "donating your body to science" means they'll be carefully, gently dissected by respectful white-clad medical students who practice life-saving procedures with them and then have them gratefully laid to eternal rest afterwards but 9 times out of 10 what body donation ends up being for is this kind of poo poo you've described here Who is putting cadavers in car crash tests?
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ExecuDork posted:There's probably a very fine line between being willing to have your face peeled off over a 3-day intensive lab course and being willing to have your head kicked by a bomb over 3 milliseconds. Last time I thought about this stuff, I was pretty squeamish about it, but this discussion made me realize: odds are I'll probably just die of cancer or heart disease, but who's to say that I don't actually end up in the wrong place at the wrong time and get horribly dismembered? As a reader of this thread I'm aware that it's a possibility. As much as I try to minimize the risk (not only by not doing stupid stuff but also by not leaving the house  ), I'm still at risk so long as I'm alive. Being exploded once I'm dead doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as it happening while I'm (hopefully only briefly still) alive.
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You just know Bucket of Genitalia is both a sick as gently caress metal band but obviously very artistically derivative.
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Platystemon posted:The world’s first chainsaw was made to cut bone and it was hand‐cranked. "Time me gentlemen!" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Liston
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drgitlin posted:Who is putting cadavers in car crash tests? Are you looking for a job?
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Suhkoi Superjet: Touches down too hard on a runway, catches on fire. Airbus A-321: Belly-lands in a Russian corn field, plays hide and seek.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-IEYsmdF6g Humbug Scoolbus posted:"Time me gentlemen!"
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:"Time me gentlemen!" Yeah if I recall right the big issue with surgery before the advent of anaesthesia was that a substantial fraction of patients died of shock from the pain. Oh and a bunch who survived also died of gangrene because they didn't have germ theory either, and surgeons loved to parade around with as much rancid blood and guts on themselves as possible.
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SelenicMartian posted:"a 45-pound scrotal tumour, whose owner had to carry it round in a wheelbarrow" Marginally more polite than crotch fruit.
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Platystemon posted:The world’s first chainsaw was made to cut bone and it was hand‐cranked. Invented by a Civil War surgeon, as a recall (after the war)
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Wow, people are filming everything now. There's a clip of the clap right after the take off as a bird got sucked into the turbine. https://t.me/tv360ru/22166 There's a clip of the landing, too. https://t.me/bazabazon/1795 And then someone sent a quad out, but the clip doesn't play in a browser https://t.me/bazabazon/1796 
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:More likely end up like a growing number of people, with an initial inspection and then a toe tag that says "too obese to be useful, dispose of".
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When you donate your body to science, you may end up in a college classroom where someone will crack your back open, cut out your heart, and then promptly drop it on the floor. (Wasn't me though. I was busy flaying someone's arm. But I did learn that day that human hearts make an odd squelching thud on linoleum tile.)
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Bees on Wheat posted:When you donate your body to science, you may end up in a college classroom where someone will crack your back open, cut out your heart, and then promptly drop it on the floor. It's meat. You ever drop meat?
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CannonFodder posted:They can let the body decay in natural conditions so medical examiners can examine rate of decay for a body wrapped in fat and use that to determine time of death. In a desert environment the thick fat layer may slow down decay. How different hiding/covering methods delay it too, big difference between under a bush and under a pile of leaves for example. My wife wants this method of 'burial' but she's an archaeologist which is just delayed grave robbing and they're all weird.
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NihilismNow posted:So you actually did 25-i NBOME, which is pretty OSHA i guess. Debatable. I didn't actually taste any metallic from the blotter, only from the body load a few hours later. I didn't have a testing kit.
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cosmo sex tip posted:
I have a friend who works in a crematorium who mentioned how they throw out fistfuls of diamonds that they filter out of the ashes. People agree to only receive the cremains and there's no major value in 2nd-hand diamonds.
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:I have a friend who works in a crematorium who mentioned how they throw out fistfuls of diamonds that they filter out of the ashes. People agree to only receive the cremains and there's no major value in 2nd-hand diamonds. That seems weird. I would totally be willing to walk into a Helzberg jewelry store, dump out a bag of diamonds, and ask what settings they’d be willing to put them in. Sure, they don’t get to sell me the diamond, but if they’d document the quality of the stones they’d still make a decent profit off the rings. How can I contact your friend and arrange to start receiving diamonds apparently nobody else wants?
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I would think that even if they didn’t sell them, they’d stash them somewhere. You know, like people do with old cell phones. They take up hardly any space.
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If we're talking fistfuls then even just selling them for industrial purposes would be worthwhile over literally throwing them out. I suspect that whoever's in charge of "throwing out" that stuff has a good side racket going.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:"Time me gentlemen!" quote:Second most famous case quote:Liston's most famous case 
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That's gotta boost your stats.
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Diamonds are useful on an industrial level, as they can be crushed into diamond dust for coating surfaces, or made into engraving bits and tips. A lot of poor-aesthetic and lower grade diamonds have this happen, but diamonds are actually quite a common stone. It's artificial scarcity and brand power that makes them sound valuable. That last one is attributed as being possibly a fictitious account, which wouldn't be unheard of for an abrasive gent like Liston who made a lot of enemies. 200% mortality wasn't unheard of, either; a doctor nicking himself during surgery causing infection that kills him was more frequent than it seems.
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Autistic Edgy Guy posted:ive seen all kinds of crazy poo poo with chainsaws kicking, chainsaws flying through the air, etc.... that one made my jaw drop Nearly his, too.
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:I have a friend who works in a crematorium who mentioned how they throw out fistfuls of diamonds that they filter out of the ashes. People agree to only receive the cremains and there's no major value in 2nd-hand diamonds. I thought diamonds would just burn up at crematorium temperatures.
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monkeytennis posted:I thought diamonds would just burn up at crematorium temperatures. The creation of diamonds requires immense pressure. This is why they're found in the ground: you need temperatures of 900-1300 Celsius (admittedly the same as a crematorium) and pressure of 650,000-850,000 psi. If you could turn people into diamonds just by cremating them, they wouldn't be able to have their price driven so high. Actual cremation diamonds are an intentional method of preserving the ashes by turning them into diamonds instead of just putting them in an urn.
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drgitlin posted:Who is putting cadavers in car crash tests? iirc Mary Roach's book, it's mostly done to calibrate crash test dummies, which can then be used as analogues. But you have to establish a baseline somewhere. Since the average north american got both taller and fatter over the years, they have to eventually adjust values for all the dummies based on more representative bodies too.
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monkeytennis posted:I thought diamonds would just burn up at crematorium temperatures. You need to brush up on the classics, my friend. 
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