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Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Hypercard? It was out well before those years, but could be described like that.


edit: Worthnoting, the inventor of hypercard was *this* close to inventing the web. He had the hyperlinks, but they just switched between local cards in the deck.

edit the second: On the version of hypercard that used to ship with macs, functionality was limited because they wanted you to buy it. But if you typed MAGIC on one of the cards in the demo deck, it unlocked all of the tools.

And then there was Myst.

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Bargearse posted:

I once found a whole box of KidPix floppy disks while cleaning up a school server room.

Ah, yeah I forgot it was spelled with an X

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Hypercard? It was out well before those years, but could be described like that.


edit: Worthnoting, the inventor of hypercard was *this* close to inventing the web. He had the hyperlinks, but they just switched between local cards in the deck.

edit the second: On the version of hypercard that used to ship with macs, functionality was limited because they wanted you to buy it. But if you typed MAGIC on one of the cards in the demo deck, it unlocked all of the tools.


Cojawfee posted:

Was it Hypercard? I don't know if it was that, but we had what you described on the school computers. It was fun as hell.

Yup it was Hypercard, it was strangely addicting to play around with as a kid, although looking at it now it looks like it could have done a lot more then what we were doing with it. It came out way before but our school was still using old Macs until the school board found some change in the cushions to buy iMacs in like 2001

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




People made full on games in HyperCard, it was pretty powerful for what it was.

I think someone mentioned it above, but iirc, myst started as a HyperCard game.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

I used to dig around inside applications with Resedit on the mac. Changing icons, dialog box strings, that kind of thing. Weirdest thing I ever found was in Word (5.1 probably), some resource that contained the ACII string "Family is either a blessing or a curse" (wording may be a little off but thats the gist) but written backwards. I don't remember the nature of the resource that contained it, but I could never figure out why that was there, if it was supposed to be an easter egg that one could reveal somehow or what.

Resedit provided me hours of fun though. Probably my third favorite mac game of the time, behind Simcity and Photoshop.

There where programs out there that allowed you to do the same with Windows. One modification I always liked to make was make the File Open/Save dialog boxes bigger... It was sized for a 640x480 screen, so if you ran a higher resolution than that, it was annoyingly small. 90% of applications utilized the standard Windows component for that particular dialog, which was located in comdlg32.dll. So editing the dialog inside that DLL made it apply to most all applications. This was back during the Windows 9x days when you could do this without the system stopping you.

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net
Elementary school I remember we had Apple IIs (mid to late 80s). The middle school we had an larger Apple II room that was used for teaching typing (though there was also a typing room with actual typewriters), but then there was also the smaller and newer Mac lab (that was our favorite thanks to a classmate duplicating copies of Arkanoid on disk). I think some teachers also had IIgs. I was in HS in the early to mid 90s and I actually can't remember what we had... I think it was probably a mix. I do specifically remember in my technical drawing class we had DOS/Windows computer for CAD... though one day someone was loving around and typed teasingly into the DOS prompt "format c:", and I was a bastard and walked by and pushed the enter key.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



That was before there was an "Are you sure? Y/N" prompt, huh?

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic
Let’s see. In rural Oregon:

In my elementary school (‘91-‘97), each classroom had one or two Apple //e machines, except for the fifth grade, which had //gs. We got a few Compaq media PCs running Windows 95, and those went to the library and the TAG program.

Sixth grade (‘97-‘98) had its own school. Each classroom had two Windows 3.1 or 95 machines (can’t recall a brand), and there was a singe lab with a bunch of computers just running DOS. At this point, there was always at least one oddball teacher per school bringing in their own Mac as well for some reason.

Middle school (‘98-‘00) had two Win 3.1/95 Compaq machines per classroom, and two computer labs running Dell Optiplex machines with, I think, Windows 98, so they had to have been brand new. Everything was also networked with NOVELL NETWARE, so exciting times there.

High school (‘00-‘04) started with two 3.1/95 computers per classroom, and three computer labs and a library with Win98 Dell Optiplexes, but everything got upgraded to the dark gray Win2000 Dell Optiplexes midway through. They distributed some Windows XP laptops to teachers my senior year, but there weren’t a lot of takers.

Crazy to think that you could probably replace every computer in the district with Chromebooks now for the cost of one or two of those labs back then.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
One of the crazier things at my high school was that you could get a loaner eMate (transparent green laptop thing with a pen input screen) if your teacher validated an application.

They just had like 4 dozen of those things sitting around because only one teacher wanted her class to be able to use them!

Ahh, the days when schools were flush with Digital Millennium moneys.

DariusLikewise posted:

Yup it was Hypercard, it was strangely addicting to play around with as a kid, although looking at it now it looks like it could have done a lot more then what we were doing with it.
An old professor of mine used to make 'HyperFiction' using Hypercard (and later just plain weblinks). It was one part choose your own adventureish and one part wikipedia neverending infohole.


Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

I used to dig around inside applications with Resedit on the mac. Changing icons, dialog box strings, that kind of thing.
:hmmyes:
gently caress yes my man.
Same here. I remember I was bored one vacation and made all my system icons Sailor Moon characters. :goku:

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
I remember using ResEdit to do stuff like change the trash icon to a toilet and make the “Empty” sound a toilet flushing in 1991 on my Mac IIsi

Around the same time getting floppies with stuff like clip art, MacPlaymate, Shufflepuck Cafe from friends

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Elementary school:
- Commodore 64s installed in 1987. One per classroom.
- Don't know if the school had a computer lab then, but by the end of elementary school (1992), we had one. I'm looking at 1980s computers and my memory is too hazy to find exactly what we had. Probably Amiga. Besides Oregon Trail, there was some kind of similarly patterned game based in the Amazon or something.

Fake edit: The computer lab first had Commodore 64s. That's where I played that version of Oregon Trail. The lab was installed in either 1987 or 1988, as I now remember typing a story in second grade there.

Junior high
- I think we were only allowed to touch the computers for Accelerated Reader. That was on Commodore 64s hooked up to television monitors.
- A new school was built following that year, which meant all new equipment. Computer class featured lovely monochrome IBMs. We used Microsoft Works and learned very basic DOS programming. There was some kind of typing teaching program, too.
- The library had color computers. Probably some other version of IBM.

High school
- Computer class (freshman year) was using Windows 3.1. We weren't supposed to be in Windows, but rather using some kind of word processor or typing program. The secret quickly got out that accessing Windows was as easy as cd/win. I learned how to play solitaire without a mouse.
- Computers were upgraded to Windows 95 soon after.
- The rest of the school ran on a hodgepodge of other machines. One classroom had a machine with one of the keyboard mouse thingys. The technology lab had a LAN. The school did not have internet except in the technology classroom. It was only on one or two computers.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

RC and Moon Pie posted:

- Commodore 64s installed in 1987. One per classroom.

A computer per classroom, wow! We had one or two for the entire school (I think they were Apple IIgses), and once a year or so you'd get paired up with some other kid to use it for a while.

But I guess we did get slightly more computer experience than that, because amongst some crap from school I found a mimeographed diagram of a keyboard layout. Did they get us to pretend to type our name by pressing the squares on the sheet of paper before we graduated to using the actual computer? Maybe there was also a cardboard box the approximate dimensions of a computer? I don't remember.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Humphreys skipped his buying Laserdisc problem rehab and has a new thing on the way. I think it was this thread someone wanted to kill for the Ghost in The Shell Collectors Box, so have a go at this:







Oh what's that on the left?


Enhance!

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Wait, is this... is this true?

quote:

Two holes at the bottom left and right indicate whether the disk is write-protected and whether it is high-density; these holes are spaced as far apart as the holes in punched A4 paper, allowing write-protected high-density [90 mm diskettes] to be clipped into standard ring binders.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jerry Cotton posted:

Wait, is this... is this true?

I have a disk but no binder to test!

EDIT:

Found an old primary school or early HS folder and a very rusty disk:

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 09:17 on Aug 17, 2019

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


:eyepop:

What about Letter or Foolscap folders, are the rings spaced the same way? Or is this disk format actually metric even though it's referred to as 3.5 inch?

Also what the hell happened to that disk?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Buttcoin purse posted:

:eyepop:

What about Letter or Foolscap folders, are the rings spaced the same way? Or is this disk format actually metric even though it's referred to as 3.5 inch?

Also what the hell happened to that disk?
The paper in that binder is actualyl foolscap. I assume same. The disk is a uni disk from maybe 2003-2004 University work and has photos from a Sony camera. It also survived being in my garage which was ocean front and shrugged off a Cyclone. Still reads all the data!

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Buttcoin purse posted:

:eyepop:

What about Letter or Foolscap folders, are the rings spaced the same way? Or is this disk format actually metric even though it's referred to as 3.5 inch?

Also what the hell happened to that disk?

Have you ever measured one? It's exactly 90 mm, and not exactly 3½ inch, so yeah it's metric because why would the Japanese design something in inches?

e: And no, the actual disk isn't 3½ inches either, in case anyone was about to propose that.

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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Is the drive bay 3.5", or was it just a case of rounding the metric size of the floppy to the nearest US units?

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Jerry Cotton posted:

Have you ever measured one?

No, and I don't know why anyone would unless they didn't hear someone properly and thought they said the average disk is 7 inches and you should measure yours to compare :shrug:

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
At my primary school (started in 1990, rural Devon, 28 students in the entire school at that time) we had a BBC Micro in the younger classroom for years R-3 and later on a couple of Acorn something or others in the library for years 4-6.

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

NonzeroCircle posted:

At my primary school (started in 1990, rural Devon, 28 students in the entire school at that time) we had a BBC Micro in the younger classroom for years R-3 and later on a couple of Acorn something or others in the library for years 4-6.

Acorn Archimedes?

I remember us playing the lander demo for hours on those machines, and then someone brought in a pirated copy of Lemmings which was pretty drat amazing. It's astonishing these's a direct line of descent from the ancient BBC Micros, through the Archimedes to today's smartphones and RPis with ARM processors.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Buttcoin purse posted:

No, and I don't know why anyone would unless they didn't hear someone properly and thought they said the average disk is 7 inches and you should measure yours to compare :shrug:

Oh it's 94 mm long. 90 mm is the width. :wink:

E: sometimes I think about getting an 8-bit Amstrad but then I remember it used 3-inch diskettes and gently caress trying to source those anywhere.

EdBlackadder
Apr 8, 2009
Lipstick Apathy

tight aspirations posted:

Acorn Archimedes?

I remember us playing the lander demo for hours on those machines, and then someone brought in a pirated copy of Lemmings which was pretty drat amazing. It's astonishing these's a direct line of descent from the ancient BBC Micros, through the Archimedes to today's smartphones and RPis with ARM processors.

I'm a UK goon of similar vintage and went from reception in '89 with a BBC Micro in each classroom for special occasions to a computer room full of these in year 3-4 which was mind-blowing. Then when I started secondary school around '97 they had Windows 95 networked across multiple suites!

That was game changing and when Napster hit someone installed it on the shared drive. We spent hours listening to lovely turn of the millennium rock and pop until the network started crashing. See, we didn't know how to load our filez to the shared drive so we kept downloading them over and over until we'd filled the drives with hundreds of copies of every song. Fun times.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

tight aspirations posted:

Acorn Archimedes?

I remember us playing the lander demo for hours on those machines, and then someone brought in a pirated copy of Lemmings which was pretty drat amazing. It's astonishing these's a direct line of descent from the ancient BBC Micros, through the Archimedes to today's smartphones and RPis with ARM processors.

Yep one of them.
I remember spending ages in year 6 trying to copy some poo poo-rear end wallace and grommit promo game off three floppies on my dad's Windows pc to try and copy it onto the Acorn and having absolutely no idea why ot wouldn't work.

My first pc i had for myself was a 486 or similar that we got from the local Donkey Sanctuary as they were upgrading. It ran Microsoft Works and Worms Armageddon. What more could anyone want (except when trying to make what you typed in Works work in Word, obviously)

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




NonzeroCircle posted:

Tech Relics - a 486 that we got from the local Donkey Sanctuary

Mods please

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I got my celeron from a regional horse emporium.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007



Please make this happen

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Cojawfee posted:

I got my celeron from a regional horse emporium.

An Amiga acquired from a national parrot rescue

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Pham Nuwen posted:

An Amiga acquired from a national parrot rescue

The text under my avatar also works.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

That's one old rear end, old rear end pc

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

spaceblancmange posted:

That's one old rear end, old rear end pc

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

In thumbnail this looks like satellite imagery with Win2k UI ontop.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Stupid AtEase locking us out of the fun stuff on the computers. Oh well, eventually it made the rounds that you could crash / exit AtEase using the Hypercard command line box thing, and that was fun.


Humphreys posted:

Humphreys skipped his buying Laserdisc problem rehab and has a new thing on the way. I think it was this thread someone wanted to kill for the Ghost in The Shell Collectors Box, so have a go at this:


It was me, and I am mad jealous of this new acquisition. That rules!


e. now that I think about it, the people that figured out the Hypercard trick were very smart. They never told anyone how to do it - if you wanted it done, they'd come over and do it for you. I don't think the problem ever got fixed, and I'm guessing not telling everyone how to do it helped.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Code Jockey posted:

It was me, and I am mad jealous of this new acquisition. That rules!

I can't be arsed taking photos but you should see the Tron Collectors box copy I have. Heres an ebay listing of it:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/232443044893

Anonymouse Mook
Jul 12, 2006

Showing Vettel the way since 1979

Here are my Disney boxsets. I like the art on the Tron one, but like the Hunchback set, it lacks any major extras. Things like Fantasia and Snow White having books, lithographs and the like.

Also, bonus Sega Pico. I think that's amazing tech for the year and the target audience

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Pham Nuwen posted:

An Amiga acquired from a national parrot rescue

I bought an A2000 in the late 80s, but also acquired an Amiga 500 from a local hospital in the mid 90s. Still got them in my shed, but I'm too afraid to look at the A2000 as I know the battery would have leaked and killed it. Right now it's Schrödinger's Amiga so everything could be perfect! Not a funny story, but there you go.
I do want to fire it up one day though so I can see what way younger me had on the SCSI hard drive that's in it. See what porn gifs I was into back then that came down off a BBS a line at a time.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Thread title :allears:

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NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
Not a relic: being amazed that my nonsense has become a thread title for the first time

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