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Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
I wanna hear Uzas

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The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

Aw dang it, it's not Jonathan Keeble doing the narration :mad:

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
I thought I was about halfway through the Dark Imperium Audiobook, but apparently I only have 2 hours left, so here's a quick review:

  • Something that pissed me off really early on was that the book drops you into a century post-Robbie's awakening and goes "lol, yeah, wasn't that some crazy poo poo, anyway, Robbie's all settled in, here's what's going on now" instead of giving me a story about the period of the G-man dealing with that early phase. I was really hoping for a take on how he would deal with the ecclesiarchy and at least three solid chapters of him going "what in the gently caress have you morons been up to?!?"
  • the book has a couple of passages that are unnecessarily-longwinded, like the time Roboute is summoned to some semi-arcane/heretic comms-device Cawl set up in the Macragge's Honour, and there's a bout HALF AN HOUR of description, prelude, code-entering, small-talk with the machine-spirit thing, before we actually get to the message Cawl had sent...really a bit much
  • conversely, the amount of descriptiveness in this book is really amazing when it comes to the Nurgle incursions. I've always been a Nurgle fan, so the foreshadowing and then climax of the imminent Nurgle summoning event was a highlight for me. Really detailed and vivid descriptions that weren't long-winded, but did the scenery justice
  • the Primaris marines have...not sure how to put this..."too much character and cultural rooting" for my taste. I mean, yes, it's been a century since they were vat-grown by Cawl or whatever, but every single one of them is talking of a rich ancestry to homeworlds, genefathers, and with the accents of their Legion's homeworld, no less. Yeah, they may be grown from the gene-stock of the original Legions by Cawl, but none of them have any connection to the cultural roots of their respective Legions, and the book just pretends this isn't the case. It just goes "well, yeah, they're different, but it's been a century, so they're accepted as brothers, deal with it". Bit heavy-handed to be honest
  • Roboute dealing with the Adeptus Ministorum is hilarious and every bit I had hoped for despite not getting a story on the origins of him dealing with them. There are so many parts where he goes "Oh jesus god, not the loving pastors again", and then finagles some way around conflict, which is doubly-hilarious considering his power
  • Overall, not a lot of bolter-porn, which is okay. The first deployment of ~PRIMARIS MARINES~ with their dumb-sounding brand-spanking-new squad/weapon/armor/equipment titles is really ham-fisted, but eh, it's alright. I get that BL needs to push the new canon, and in all honesty, their poo poo is pretty metal. The original 40k-nerd in me ist just being a bit of a salty hipster

But the best part of the audiobook so far for me really was the emergence of the Nurgle warhost, in all its glorious detail, gore and filth. From rotting void-whales flopping through the thin veneer of the immaterium/reality and sloshily disgorging their demon payload, to the pissed off middle-management Plague-bearers tasked with unfucking the logistics of a comically-disorderly muster of forces, to the nurglings immediately scrambling to defile the local carp and earthworm populace (:3:), to the arrival of the plague host's lieutenants and champions. Just absolutely loving exquisite.

The moment that had me howling with laughter in my car for a solid minute was the nurgle champion with a set of human bagpipes playing a lovely Scottish tune to herald the arrival of their unclean overlord, and when he arrives, he's like "oh my loving god, enough with the drat lovely music already, can we please to a plague already?" and after a brief moment, his subordinates eyeball eachother and go "uh, no, this tune goes great with filth, sir", and continue playing, prompting their general to roll his eyes so hard in annoyance that one of them literally flies out its socket.

I'm laughing again just writing this.

Fun audiobook with the aforementioned caveats. Looking forward to Plague War.

/edit:
Oh, I had some reservations about the reader when I listened to the samples, but John Banks actually does a pretty good job. His imperials are pretty run-of-the-mill, nothing to write home about, but holy poo poo, his Nurgle demons/champions are amazing. The guy has to sit next to a ginormous spit-bucket while recording, because it sounds like he's coughing up industrial amounts of flem and pus

Duzzy Funlop fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Aug 17, 2019

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Duzzy Funlop posted:

The moment that had me howling with laughter in my car for a solid minute was the nurgle champion with a set of human bagpipes playing a lovely Scottish tune to herald the arrival of their unclean overlord, and when he arrives, he's like "oh my loving god, enough with the drat lovely music already, can we please to a plague already?" and after a brief moment, his subordinates eyeball eachother and go "uh, no, this tune goes great with filth, sir", and continue playing, prompting their general to roll is eyes so hard in annoyance that one eye literally flies out its socket.

That's great, I'm sad the Badcast passed over mentioning that in their review of the book because it sounds like a hoot. :D

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
My copy of Sinner's Bounty arrived today but my free time is allotted to 5 squig hoppers at the moment, so i'll let you all know how it is when I get around to it.

I'm going to make a prediction that the story is absolutely not worth the price I paid for it, but the book itself is very pretty.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Duzzy Funlop posted:

[*]the Primaris marines have...not sure how to put this..."too much character and cultural rooting" for my taste. I mean, yes, it's been a century since they were vat-grown by Cawl or whatever, but every single one of them is talking of a rich ancestry to homeworlds, genefathers, and with the accents of their Legion's homeworld, no less. Yeah, they may be grown from the gene-stock of the original Legions by Cawl, but none of them have any connection to the cultural roots of their respective Legions, and the book just pretends this isn't the case. It just goes "well, yeah, they're different, but it's been a century, so they're accepted as brothers, deal with it". Bit heavy-handed to be honest


This isn't correct. Most of the first generation Primaris marines are from the heresy and scouring eras. Many of them had already seen action in scout companies while some of them were still aspirants. Cawl gathered the majority of them up then and put them in stasis, bringing them out every once in a while to receive a new organ or to test or train them. Some were recruited at a later date but a lot of them have accents from the original homeworlds because they grew up there 10k years ago.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Cooked Auto posted:

That's great, I'm sad the Badcast passed over mentioning that in their review of the book because it sounds like a hoot. :D

The Cawl impression makes up for it though holy poo poo I was laughing so hard.

Verloc
Feb 15, 2001

Note to self: Posting 'lulz' is not a good idea.

D-Pad posted:

This isn't correct. Most of the first generation Primaris marines are from the heresy and scouring eras. Many of them had already seen action in scout companies while some of them were still aspirants. Cawl gathered the majority of them up then and put them in stasis, bringing them out every once in a while to receive a new organ or to test or train them. Some were recruited at a later date but a lot of them have accents from the original homeworlds because they grew up there 10k years ago.
Yes I recall some Primaris Marine POV in Plague War that was like “yeah the last couple thousand years have been bullshit, either in the freezer or doing training and psych indoctrination”

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

VanSandman posted:


Nemesis: A bunch of assassins get together to try and kill Horus. They fail.

'Vengeful Spirit' was basically a redo of that, and also quite bad. Except it had a jammed-in Imperial Knight plot (they were the new hotness then). And Horus gaining a weird power-up by going into a portal the Emperor used once, which wasn't bad per se but I doubt was ever touched upon again.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Inspector_666 posted:

The Cawl impression makes up for it though holy poo poo I was laughing so hard.

This is very true.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
Which badcast episode covered Dark Imperium?

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
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I'm not really sure what the Estate Imperium actually is, but it makes me think of the Great Vault from Kill Six Billion Demons, guarded by crazy monks with chainglaives.

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Which badcast episode covered Dark Imperium?

Episode 54. The second to newest one.

Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

SardonicTyrant posted:

I'm not really sure what the Estate Imperium actually is, but it makes me think of the Great Vault from Kill Six Billion Demons, guarded by crazy monks with chainglaives.

It's the record keeping department of the Administratum.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adeptus_Administratum

I think they have had wars over filing systems.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Anyone reading Knights of Macragge?

It's a Nick Kyme so I'm not enthused.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Deptfordx posted:

Anyone reading Knights of Macragge?

It's a Nick Kyme so I'm not enthused.

I am because if you all haven't noticed yet, I can't help myself and get everything that comes out.

Not far enough in to do a real review, but I will come back and let you know.

Senjuro
Aug 19, 2006

Deptfordx posted:

*Runs into thread, hands waving*

ADB's Night Lord trilogy coming to audiobooks.

https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/178999...c3_lProduct_1_5

Is this another book about Chaos Marines that don't actually give a poo poo about Chaos like the Black Legion series?

MMAgCh
Aug 15, 2001
I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you
That's a largely accurate assessment.

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so
Yeah, one guy is into Khorne but everyone else hates him for it.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Say what you will about the tenets of Chaos Undivided, at least it's an ethos.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

I knew they wouldn't be able to keep it to just eight books. I like the idea of novellas that explore side stories though.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/21/siege-of-terra-beyond-the-novelsgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-3/

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


All I want out of the Siege of Terra is to see the first fight of Malcharion the War-Sage and Raguel the Sufferer.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Maybe if they didn't delay the regular B&M release by months so I have to tread gingerly to avoid spoilers.

rocket_Magnet
Apr 5, 2005

:unsmith:

Senjuro posted:

Is this another book about Chaos Marines that don't actually give a poo poo about Chaos like the Black Legion series?

Absolutely, there's even less levity than the black legion series due to the lack of history behind the characters and storyline. Plus it's dealing with a legion that still only has a begrudging acceptance of corruption at best and active loathing of it generally. Definitely some of the best stuff to come out of black library for me.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

D-Pad posted:

I knew they wouldn't be able to keep it to just eight books. I like the idea of novellas that explore side stories though.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/21/siege-of-terra-beyond-the-novelsgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-3/

No, it wasn't a hard prediction was it.


Deptfordx posted:

They're saying 'only' 8 books, but it's BL, it could metastasize given any opportunity.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Khizan posted:

All I want out of the Siege of Terra is to see the first fight of Malcharion the War-Sage and Raguel the Sufferer.

Screw that! I want to see Malcharion take on all -three- legion champions, like it's a Dark Souls boss with several phases.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
I demand more Persson.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
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I want to see Keeler meet the Emperor and have a long thoughtful discussion on religion and its place in the Imperium.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

........and then they kiss? :grin:

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
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Deptfordx posted:

........and then they kiss? :grin:
The Emperor is pretty clearly volcel, which explains his incredible power.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

I read Lords of Silence and it's a better look at Death Guard and Nurgle in general than at least the first Plague War book. Two oozing pustules that used to be thumbs up.

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President

SardonicTyrant posted:

The Emperor is pretty clearly volcel, which explains his incredible power.

Then he goes from being volcel to being spermjacked (geneseedjacked?) to make the Grey Knights.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



The Astronomican is the ultimate expression of Orgone energy.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
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Preechr posted:

Then he goes from being volcel to being spermjacked (geneseedjacked?) to make the Grey Knights.
Pretty sure when they say gene-seed they just mean the genetic code and not actual jizz.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




SardonicTyrant posted:

Pretty sure when they say gene-seed they just mean the genetic code and not actual jizz.

That's just, like, your opinion, man.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Just discovered this entirely by accident: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/06/17/a-spot-of-bovver/

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl
Jesus that's terrible

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Nuclear War posted:

By the Emperor, that's great!

:eng101:

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Is there any material out there that goes further with Ork colour theory? I know the big ones: Red goes fasta, Blue is lucky, Purple is sneaky, Yellow is explodey and Green Iz Best. Are there any other colour applications the Orks cling to?

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Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

D-Pad posted:

I am because if you all haven't noticed yet, I can't help myself and get everything that comes out.

Not far enough in to do a real review, but I will come back and let you know.

Any thought on Knights of Macragge now?

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