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Sindai posted:I wonder if insect breathing means she breathes through her skin you will regret your words and deeds
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Fabricated posted:I guess they're solving the no narrator problem with filler material that negates the need for one. Makes sense I guess? It's not really filler since it's plot relevant though. It's more like taking creative license for clarity.
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Aug 17, 2019 20:58
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Shinobu is real good trust me on this
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Aug 17, 2019 22:29
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I've not read the manga. But so far all the characters have been cool and good. (After Zenitsu got over his annoying phase...) The animation and sound design as mentioned previously have been great too. This is such a good series.
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Aug 17, 2019 23:18
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I am pretty sure that the Father Spider Demon transformation was possibly him removing the modifications Rui made to him.
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Aug 17, 2019 23:33
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some good, good shinobu content this week almost makes up for it not being what i expected, but i'm sure next week they'll finally leave this mountain
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I did feel some pity for the Elder Sister Demon, even though she was a bad person. Given the focus she got I was originally wondering if it was planned for her to be spared and turn, but Gotoge changed her mind and decided to use her to show off Shinobu.
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Alder posted:i love shinobu and kinda sad the entire series will be ending soon. this show was pretty much ubiquitous in akiba when i was there a month ago and is pumping out merchandise, a second season is probably a safe bet
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Centzon Totochtin posted:yes the episode was great and all but can we get more jabami yumeko Ah hell yes we got the jabami yumeko demon slayer
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Homura and Sickle posted:this show was pretty much ubiquitous in akiba when i was there a month ago and is pumping out merchandise, a second season is probably a safe bet
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Aug 18, 2019 17:51
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Gotta admit I did not like them undermining last weeks fantastic episode by having Rui completely bullshit himself to be fine just so they can arbitrarily rob Tanjiro of the win. I guess the author didn't want Tanjiro to actually be on that level yet and wanted to show off whatshisface but it still felt really cheap and lame.
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Aug 18, 2019 21:26
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To me it seemed moreso to show that even though Tanjiro has gotten a lot more powerful, he still doesn't really have poo poo on even one of the lower moons, it's the stereotypical "there's a whole world of power that the MC has barely scratched the surface of" thing. It's not really about showing Giyuu off because (very slight spoiler for the next few episodes/the next arc, if I remember correctly) Giyuu doesn't really feature again until a few arcs later - aside from what i think the next episode is gonna cover. So it's not like Giyuu comes back and features a lot from now on.
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Aug 18, 2019 21:47
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Yeah, the whole "protagonist does all-or-nothing attack that seemingly defeats the villain at the end of episode, but at the beginning of the next episode it's revealed that the villain actually countered it and the the protagonist is at their mercy! But wait! A new character appears! And he is super cool and effortlessly defeats villain with his own super-move!" reminded me of Bleach, which is not a praise, to say the least. Also was not super thrilled about how the show decided to conclude the whole thing with spider sister. I guess I was supposed to be OK with her death when it was pointed out that she killed tons of people, but at that point it was obvious that the spiderbro would have tortured and killed her if she even thought about going off script in any way, like not wanting to kill people, so I felt that it was a lot less damming the the show wanted it to. And the bug lady going "hey, do you want to be survive and be my friend? Well, I'll have to torture you so hard you would die multiple times if you were a human first, but no biggie right? No? Oh, well, agonizing death time via anti-demon poison!" right after the flashback made it clear that spider sister is basically abuse victim was also super weird and made bug lady look like unhinged psychopath. Was not feeling this episode at all.
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The entire family were abuse victims. A sort of microcosm of how demons in general are victims of Muzan (who when not just acting on a whim preys on the vulnerable, turning them into monsters and forcing them to join his cult). But the point with the sister's taunting and the flashback was to show that even for a demon (who have to turn psychopathic as a survival strategy) she was unusually cruel and duplicitous - we get right into her head, so we see how all she ever cared about was herself, and that remaining part of the family and playing the house game was a decision driven by self-interest rather than fear of Rui. She gets angry for loving up, because she had been playing it perfectly up until that point. Unlike the mother and the other sister who were disgusted and terrified, she was consciously using him to her advantage. Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Aug 18, 2019 22:44
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she sold out her own sister immediately so yeah, the episode is pretty much flipping your previously-established sympathy on its head there. same goes for rui getting basically nothing in terms of redemption unlike the last few demons tanjiro has taken down. i think the degree to which they played up the kagura and igniting blood last week is more to blame for giyuu's appearance feeling hollow to people though. they pretty much had to immediately undercut that lol. but we've known the guy is a badass from ep1 and he's already well-established as being on mountain cleanup duty so it hardly comes out of nowhere.
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I think the extended spider girl sequence was anime original. Either way, you are looking it at wrong, contrast "sister" with the "mother" spiders, both murdered a bunch of people but when push came to shove the mother realized that she would be better off dead while the sister was always thinking about self preservation to the very end. The scene showing that the mother was actually a little girl forced to play the role makes it even harder. As for the rest really disliked spider boy surviving, less so in the anime than in the manga. The scene isn't sold that hard in the manga as they did in the anime so the payoff didn't feel completely stolen. But its important to show the gap between the pillars and Tanjiro and that his super special secret technique cant match years of single minded devotion to killing demons
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Aug 18, 2019 23:00
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Aug 18, 2019 23:16
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The Pillars make up for being the strong cjaracter squad by being immensely entertaining. Like Shinobu Who owns
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MonsterEnvy posted:I am pretty sure that the Father Spider Demon transformation was possibly him removing the modifications Rui made to him. they were modified to be more like spiders so they could fit rui's family aesthetic so I doubt it
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Aug 18, 2019 23:24
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shoulda been some cool hosed up women siblings spiders. the guys looked weird and the girls just Got Tattoos
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Aug 18, 2019 23:27
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In a way, every battle with a demon is a gamble of sorts so Shinobu is compulsive gambler in voice and temperament
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the little flourish on shinobu’s jacket when she was dodging the web attacks is really good. also i don’t hate Rui cutting off his head to deprive tanjirou of his win. it’s a logical way for the show how strong fire breathing is without making the hashira look disappointing. and it’s a “You didn’t win! I owned myself!” and those are always fun
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I'm not *super* bothered by it, but I do wish Rui was just more expressive of a character so the audience could get more of a sense that he panicked/actually thought Tanjiro was about to kill him for a second. That way it would at least feel like Tanjiro won a small victory just by freaking Rui out.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm not *super* bothered by it, but I do wish Rui was just more expressive of a character so the audience could get more of a sense that he panicked/actually thought Tanjiro was about to kill him for a second. That way it would at least feel like Tanjiro won a small victory just by freaking Rui out. Well he would not have cut his head off if he did not think Tanjiro was about to kill him. Conspiratiorist posted:
I would not mark her as especially cruel and duplicitous. Just cowardly and purely interested in self preservation. She joined up with Rui cause he was strong, and would help protect her. She sold out the other sister, because she did not want to leave the protection Rui offered, did not want Rui to take his anger out on her if she escaped, and wanted to increase her standing in Rui's eyes. When the family was being defeated by the Demon Slayers she relies on Father to protect her, before trying to convince Rui to escape with her, so she can keep his protection. When Rui expresses interest in Nezuko she worries about Rui abandoning her. When she realizes that Shinobu is dangerous she immediately begs Shinobu to spare her. The only time her self preservation instincts lower is when her fear of Shinobu is overpowered by her anger at Shinobu for offering her false hope. And it was false hope, Shinobu never had any intention of sparing her.
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I think I figured out the origin of the headless Demon the Mother manipulated. He was likely a member of the family that displeased Rui and so was reduced to a puppet for the Mother to use.
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Worthwhile info here: https://twitter.com/itsbonedaddy/status/1163875596926984193?s=21
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With this episode it is clear that Shinobu never had any intentions of sparing the Sister.
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Can't wait to meet this gang of weirdos butterfly apprentice is the worst person in history for trying to murder cute escaping Nezuko Mismatched Haori putting Shinobu in a headlock was great
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sigh... of course Rui gets half of an episode for his tragic backstory, a moment of pity from good-boy Tanshiro and implied forgiveness in afterlife, because I guess he shown a regret in literally last second he spent living on this earth? Yeah...whatever, at least this new stuff with Demon Hunter Organization looks great.
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Aug 24, 2019 21:34
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Like... episodes? 5 more
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Lt. Lizard posted:sigh... of course Rui gets half of an episode for his tragic backstory, a moment of pity from good-boy Tanshiro and implied forgiveness in afterlife, because I guess he shown a regret in literally last second he spent living on this earth? he is literally going to hell
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Lt. Lizard posted:sigh... of course Rui gets half of an episode for his tragic backstory, a moment of pity from good-boy Tanshiro and implied forgiveness in afterlife, because I guess he shown a regret in literally last second he spent living on this earth? Tanjiro isnt a shonen Jesus type. Its not forgiveness, its pity.
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Aug 24, 2019 21:47
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Lt. Lizard posted:sigh... of course Rui gets half of an episode for his tragic backstory, a moment of pity from good-boy Tanshiro and implied forgiveness in afterlife, because I guess he shown a regret in literally last second he spent living on this earth? Uh, if you don't like that you should probably just fast forward past the end of every fight.
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Lt. Lizard posted:sigh... of course Rui gets half of an episode for his tragic backstory, a moment of pity from good-boy Tanshiro and implied forgiveness in afterlife, because I guess he shown a regret in literally last second he spent living on this earth? Tanjiro doesn't know anyone's backstory. He just smells a ridiculously overpowering scent of "my life was loving awful, yall" from every demon he kills, so that bugs him. I mean, skip the flash backs if you'd like, and you can put yourself in his shoes.
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Aug 24, 2019 21:57
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none of the demons are forgiven when they die
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Aug 24, 2019 21:59
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Kinda almost as if the show's underlying theme is how a person, or people, in power exploit society's most vulnerable and turn them into cruel and base creatures.
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Manatee Cannon posted:none of the demons are forgiven when they die I don't know about that. Whether they are actually forgiven is complicated because it's like, forgiven by whom? The victims? Tanjirou? God? Themselves? But I think it makes it pretty clear that they aren't beyond forgiveness, in the abstract. Also, Tanjirou's attitude of being prepared to forgive murderers and cannibals while also 100% committed to stopping them, by force, from causing further harm -- and the show inhabiting his perspective and reinforcing it with flashbacks that he couldn't have known about -- is a good thing and a much better moral example than like 90% of media.
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Beasteh posted:Like... episodes? 5 more Okay, probably enough time for one more decent arc then? I was worried it was gonna be more like 2 or 3 and that we'd be in a weird spot transitioning out of the spider family arc with that little time left.
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No, it’s pretty much decompression now. There won’t be enough time to rush through to the next combat arc if this is a typical 24 episode series.
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