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Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

NJersey posted:

UP THE BUM is right and the fact that all the loving cops and bootlickers jumped on him because they got their feelings hurt and not one of them voiced any concern or anger towards the article of one of their fellow officers offing himself while his leadership ignores his family’s SIX pleas for help says a loving lot. Definitely reasonable people I want to have a conversation with...

It’s not like the veterans here haven’t had any experience with an institution that ignores pleas for help until it’s too late, right?

gently caress off.

ACAB.

Rename GiP to Cop Safe Space or some poo poo...seems like more cops and bootlickers here than vets anyways...

There is so much you misunderstood about the situation and the way GiP is, as well. Instead of going through line by line and explaining why you're wrong or reading things incorrectly, I'm just going to say gently caress off forever, idiot.

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LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler

Casimir Radon posted:

McNally sighs as he reaches for his dildo bat.

uwu

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

bengy81 posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...af08_story.html

I can't wait to go bankrupt caring for my parents. They are early 60's right now, and in ok health, but I'm fairly certain they don't have any real savings, so I'm probably gonna have to shoulder most of the financial burden if they have to be taken care of full time.

I'm grateful they are still around, don't get me wrong, but the future is terrifying sometimes.

I work hospice and home care to dispatch nurses, and the rallying cry from the nurses boils down to 'we have too much to do, hire more people.' Our org is generally just covering the bare minimum personnel for any number of reasons-- mostly monetary. Our parent company could afford to hire more people, they just-- don't.

What that ends up looking like is that coverage areas vary over the states we take calls for. It's not uncommon for hospice or home care nurses to have to drive 2hrs in the middle of the night because a patient violently ripped out their PICC line (or catheter), and I've had nights where I've had to inform a single hospice nurse that they have three deaths they need to cover within the span of an hour. That basically means they're going to be up all night, driving on minimal sleep, and I imagine this'll only start getting more insane before it gets any better.

There's an extremely high turnover rate due to how little our nurses get paid in both hospice and home care, and how much of a workload they're expected to shoulder on any given day. On the hospice side, the hospice care mainstays that have been there since I signed on five years ago are reaching retirement age - which applies to all our coverage areas - and filling their positions when they're gone is going to be a gigantic pain that the company just doesn't want to try and reconcile with.

Add in the fact that elder care facilities that are worth a drat are stupid-expensive. My mother works for a retirement community as a volunteer coordinator, and she's consistently mentioned that, even if she works there, she and my father both would never be able to actually afford living there, or receiving care. A lot of the time, residents in those homes receive care from outside agencies, like ours. I've had to think long and hard about what I'm going to do once they need regular care, and whether or not I can handle it, such to the extent that it's factored in to my decision to start doing strength training. I'm pretty sure it's gonna fall on me to do the bulk of in-home care.

poo poo's bad. It's rough to have to plan for this, but they're both in their early 70s, so-- this is a long way of saying 'man, I feel you,' and also a comment from the proverbial front lines of this mess.

I wish I could say 'donate to an org like ours and lean on them to pay their staff better/hire more staff,' but I sincerely doubt that even a windfall donor would make them change their overall practices-- but they have started offering a much better benefits package, and apparently pay scales are being adjusted, so who knows. All I know is what I said: they have routinely hired for bare minimum coverage, especially in my department, and we're continually 'broadening' coverage areas/removing additional nurses in places with a larger population.

EDIT: removed state and identifying info for reasons. I deeply dislike a lot of their practices, but I need this job. :|

EDIT 2: The lack of qualified personnel is in no way helped by the rise of sites like Glass Door, in which former employees can and will state outright what prospective employees can expect (re: 'you will be relentlessly poo poo on' was a common refrain in the ones I saw). So, framing it as 'a worker shortage' feels partly disingenuous to me, for that reason, as there's something to be said for the usual predatory hiring/pay practices that have been so widely favored by so many industries. The immigration debacle absolutely plays a part, but there's a lot to be said for organizations shooting themselves in the foot by offering lovely wages and benefits packages that cannot cover the cost of living for a younger population that's drowning in debt. Nurses that are desperate for work and don't want to work 2 jobs simultaneously will jump ship for better opportunities, and have. Consistently.

Old Boot fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Aug 17, 2019

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

My mother in law is in her early 70s. She sold her house and moved in with us because she spent most of her adult life caring for both of her parents before they kicked the bucket and has no money or savings. Rather than work til she dies, she knits and watches shows about how women get murdered at my house now.

Her only income is Social Security and half of that is spent on her medical insurance. So we will see where this ends up I guess.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Nostalgia4Ass posted:

shows about how women get murdered at my house

:thunk:

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Old Boot posted:

I work hospice and home care to dispatch nurses, and the rallying cry from the nurses boils down to 'we have too much to do, hire more people.' Our org is generally just covering the bare minimum personnel for any number of reasons-- mostly monetary. Our parent company could afford to hire more people, they just-- don't.

What that ends up looking like is that coverage areas vary over the states we take calls for. It's not uncommon for hospice or home care nurses to have to drive 2hrs in the middle of the night because a patient violently ripped out their PICC line (or catheter), and I've had nights where I've had to inform a single hospice nurse that they have three deaths they need to cover within the span of an hour. That basically means they're going to be up all night, driving on minimal sleep, and I imagine this'll only start getting more insane before it gets any better.

There's an extremely high turnover rate due to how little our nurses get paid in both hospice and home care, and how much of a workload they're expected to shoulder on any given day. On the hospice side, the hospice care mainstays that have been there since I signed on five years ago are reaching retirement age - which applies to all our coverage areas - and filling their positions when they're gone is going to be a gigantic pain that the company just doesn't want to try and reconcile with.

Add in the fact that elder care facilities that are worth a drat are stupid-expensive. My mother works for a retirement community as a volunteer coordinator, and she's consistently mentioned that, even if she works there, she and my father both would never be able to actually afford living there, or receiving care. A lot of the time, residents in those homes receive care from outside agencies, like ours. I've had to think long and hard about what I'm going to do once they need regular care, and whether or not I can handle it, such to the extent that it's factored in to my decision to start doing strength training. I'm pretty sure it's gonna fall on me to do the bulk of in-home care.

poo poo's bad. It's rough to have to plan for this, but they're both in their early 70s, so-- this is a long way of saying 'man, I feel you,' and also a comment from the proverbial front lines of this mess.

I wish I could say 'donate to an org like ours and lean on them to pay their staff better/hire more staff,' but I sincerely doubt that even a windfall donor would make them change their overall practices-- but they have started offering a much better benefits package, and apparently pay scales are being adjusted, so who knows. All I know is what I said: they have routinely hired for bare minimum coverage, especially in my department, and we're continually 'broadening' coverage areas/removing additional nurses in places with a larger population.

EDIT: removed state and identifying info for reasons. I deeply dislike a lot of their practices, but I need this job. :|

EDIT 2: The lack of qualified personnel is in no way helped by the rise of sites like Glass Door, in which former employees can and will state outright what prospective employees can expect (re: 'you will be relentlessly poo poo on' was a common refrain in the ones I saw). So, framing it as 'a worker shortage' feels partly disingenuous to me, for that reason, as there's something to be said for the usual predatory hiring/pay practices that have been so widely favored by so many industries. The immigration debacle absolutely plays a part, but there's a lot to be said for organizations shooting themselves in the foot by offering lovely wages and benefits packages that cannot cover the cost of living for a younger population that's drowning in debt. Nurses that are desperate for work and don't want to work 2 jobs simultaneously will jump ship for better opportunities, and have. Consistently.

I've heard from nurse friends that hospice and home care work is rough, and honestly I don't know why anybody that was worth a drat would choose to do that work, between the low pay and helping people die, it must be emotionally draining.
Just the complete lack of safety nets for ANYTHING is terrifying. Like I don't want to potentially put my parents in a poo poo retirement home that is barely covered by medicaid, but I would be really surprised if they have more that 500k in assets, including their house. I would let my mom move in with me, but poo poo, my dad is the total MAGA hat stereotype boomer racist to the tee, and I don't want him to pollute our house with his bullshit, so unless he changes his ways, its a cutrate retirement home for him.
I just don't get how we can be, as a nation, so wealthy, while providing so little for our citizens, like man, you have to absolutely hit rock bottom before the safety net kicks in, and even then it's not really enough, and lol, the GOP wants to gut it even more.
The fact that there is very little chance congress is gonna do anything to fix social security sucks really bad too. As I understand it, its basically designed to run out by 2035 unless some resolutions get passed to change it, which might clear the house, but I doubt it clears the senate.
As far as I can tell the labor market is gonna be absolutely hosed when the boomers decide to actually start retiring. I know that at a lot of the companies I've worked at/dealt with there seems to be a bottle neck regarding promotions, and a whole lot of organizational knowledge is stuck with a handful of 65-70 year olds, and there is no plan to train replacements for them. Example: Our lone product manager retired two years ago, did a year of consulting, and then hosed off permanently, they still haven't found appointed a new product manager for the product lines he covered, so problems that could be solved with an email to this dude in about 10 minutes now take 2 weeks or more to get a solution, and its usually wrong.

Sorry for the word vomit, I've got a stomach bug today, so I have been extremely online, and its giving me sad brains again.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
The country devolving into a chaotic, knock down drag out free for all is all by design.

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Milo and POTUS posted:

The country devolving into a chaotic, knock down drag out free for all is all by design.

Well yeah, but it's still pretty unnerving to think about.

Edit: It's like THE PURGE but 100% less violent and 100% more lame.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Private charities will doubtless step in and resolve this fairly and without discrimination

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
A non-inclusive list of America’s most systematically hosed industries:

Education
Hospice care
Law Enforcement
Consumer Financial
Family Own Farms
Payday Loans
Potable Water

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Energy

bengy81
May 8, 2010

M_Gargantua posted:

A non-inclusive list of America’s most systematically hosed industries:

Education
Hospice care
Law Enforcement
Consumer Financial
Family Own Farms
Payday Loans
Potable Water

I'm not gonna shed a tear for the payday loan industry personally, and if they took down all the credit card and credit monitoring companies I wouldn't cry for them either.

Ever think about how hosed up it is that we treat credit scores basically like a game? Like you are basically a worthless piece of poo poo if the banks decide they can't make money off of you, its hosed.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002




https://twitter.com/antifa_portland/status/1162880504401547264?s=21

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

#TradWomen upping their marketing game.

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

bengy81 posted:

Ever think about how hosed up it is that we treat credit scores basically like a game? Like you are basically a worthless piece of poo poo if the banks decide they can't make money off of you, its hosed.

I've been saying this for ages. I spent the bulk of my life thinking that having no credit card debt was arguably a good thing, and just didn't use credit cards. In the end, I have way less debt than most of the people I know, but a credit score so far in the shitter that 'good rental history/pays bills on time' doesn't even register.

It's being fixed now but jesus god is it infuriatingly backwards.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Countdown until he brags about the size of the crowd...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/17/us/politics/trump-shell-workers.html

Workers had the option of attending and getting paid, or taking PTO.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Is that even legal?

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Is that even legal?

HAHAHAHAHAHA enforcing the rights of labor in this country. HAHAHAHAHAHA loving good one man, I needed that laugh.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Is that even legal?

They got payed for going. I would have been rolling my eyes so much they would have popped out of my head but that's just me.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I would have taken the PTO.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I assume they mean it would come out of your limited vacation/sick combined pool

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Re credit scores. My credit scores are all above 800 now and the way you get treated is loving amazing.

Bought my wife a new car, went in to sign the paperwork, and it got confused that I wanted financing. But I was just gonna pay with wire transfer.

So I say that I'll just come back when the wire transfer clears, no biggie. But they ran my credit score and basically sent me off with the car under a gentleman's agreement to pay. Also offered me the Mazda financing rate of 1.99% or whatever it is.

I was legitimately shocked. Didn't put a cent down walked out with a new car. Having a good score is dope.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


shame on an IGA posted:

I assume they mean it would come out of your limited vacation/sick combined pool
Oh I'm sure. I just couldn't stand to be in the same room with the piece of poo poo. Just hearing his voice sets me off nowadays.

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Casimir Radon posted:

Oh I'm sure. I just couldn't stand to be in the same room with the piece of poo poo. Just hearing his voice sets me off nowadays.

Show up, get paid to scream obscenities at him.

Except for the whole getting fired part. :/

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Casimir Radon posted:

I would have taken the PTO.

Which then disqualifies you from max overtime for the week per the article. The company, the union, and the cheeto are butt loving all these workers over speech attendance.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

not caring here posted:


I was legitimately shocked. Didn't put a cent down walked out with a new car. Having a good score is dope.

I don't know if you've noticed, but there are still lots of new 2018s on the lots, and new 2017s on some lots. When I was looking for something to replace the Kia, I was seeing '17 toyota rav4s still new, still $18k+, and I bought the Baja instead.

What I'm getting at is, dealerships are tripping over their infinitesimally small dicks to PUT EVERYONE IN A NEW CAR TODAY! Sales are down for almost every manufacturer. They're going to do whatever's needed to get a sale. Should've held out for a blowjob from the manager.

Congrats on the good credit though, and new car.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
dealers want you to take a loan out because the lones are put into tranches and securitized

capital has learned from the 2008 crash, and figured out that people are more likely to pay their car note than their mortgage

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Dealers want you to get a loan because the bank actually offered you 0% financing and the dealership pockets the difference between what they tell you and what the bank tells them. It’s called dealer reserve.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
You know what? Add car dealer management and owners to the list of people I'd be fine with pushing off a cliff.

1. Pharma execs
2. Car dealers

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Yeah I was just shocked that they'd let someone walk out with just a promise to pay. I thought there be something to sign like a bridging loan or even just an IOU or whatever, and had just resigned myself to not go through all that poo poo and pick it up in a few days when it cleared.

They just ran the credit check and let me drive off. Pretty crazy.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
That credit check confirms where you live.

The dealership is going to take a picture of your house to post on the internet if you screw them.


I just realized that joke predates your regdate by like, a decade. Mine too, glorious re-reg.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Suicide bomber spares the air force sending a drone.

NPR: Suicide Bomber Kills 63, Injures 182 At Wedding Reception In Kabul.
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/18/752124196/suicide-bomber-kills-63-injures-182-at-wedding-reception-in-kabul?ft=nprml&f=1001

-Anders
Feb 1, 2007

Denmark. Wait, what?
Legit figured it was a drone strike when I read the headline.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

man that union is loving bitch made lmao

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Old Boot posted:

I've been saying this for ages. I spent the bulk of my life thinking that having no credit card debt was arguably a good thing, and just didn't use credit cards. In the end, I have way less debt than most of the people I know, but a credit score so far in the shitter that 'good rental history/pays bills on time' doesn't even register.

It's being fixed now but jesus god is it infuriatingly backwards.

It's not backwards it's a rating for how safe/risky you are for lending money to. Having a track record of paying all your loans on time without issue makes you safer to loan money to then someone who has no history.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I'm taking out another credit card because it'll increase my score. Probably gonna go with the Amazon card and just put all my purchases on there.

My goal is to be credit debt free by 2020, and I've got like 7 grand to go so it'll probably happen. Hooray, using my 30s to erase the mistakes of my 20s.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
Hong Kong protesters stepping up their game and lazing some eyeballs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiIUhcQmx-0

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

man that union is loving bitch made lmao

I thought "union" was a reference to the bombed wedding at first. :stonk:

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

not caring here posted:

Re credit scores. My credit scores are all above 800 now and the way you get treated is loving amazing.

Bought my wife a new car, went in to sign the paperwork, and it got confused that I wanted financing. But I was just gonna pay with wire transfer.

So I say that I'll just come back when the wire transfer clears, no biggie. But they ran my credit score and basically sent me off with the car under a gentleman's agreement to pay. Also offered me the Mazda financing rate of 1.99% or whatever it is.

I was legitimately shocked. Didn't put a cent down walked out with a new car. Having a good score is dope.

Hah, I bought a car a few months ago and the dealership tried to scam me on the financing. They said their only options were 5%+ for an 800+ score. I applied for USAA loan right in front of them and got 3%, after which the finance guy visibly soured and said he magically found a list of companies offering 3.5%.

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psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Fallom posted:

Hah, I bought a car a few months ago and the dealership tried to scam me on the financing. They said their only options were 5%+ for an 800+ score. I applied for USAA loan right in front of them and got 3%, after which the finance guy visibly soured and said he magically found a list of companies offering 3.5%.

You can sometimes use this to get additional cash rebates. When I bought my car a few years ago, Ford offered me a $3,000 instant rebate to use their financing (which was something stupid like 8.5%). I had to keep the loan for 90 days, after which I immediately refinanced at 1.99% through USAA.

I never drive anymore, though. Barring a traffic accident, I plan on keeping this car until it dies.

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