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Here is a hint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMeu7BKE-nQ
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MonsieurChoc posted:Some weirdo Jewish libertarian went on a rant about how the Palestinians are actually descended from the Samaritans and as such completely unrelated to the Jews who lived there in the first century. Which is ridiculous because there are still a few Samaritans. Who are basically Jewish in most ways but differ on aspects of worship, including the need for a temple and where the place of worship should be. Palestinians are mostly the descendants of converts to Christianity and Islam, who returned after the several Roman explusions and also some mixing with various other Semitic peoples like Nabateans who lived in the area, from my understanding. Ashkenazi and Sephardi appear to be the descendants of the people who never came back and Mizrahi are the descendants of the people who never converted.
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twoday posted:Here is a hint: It's Mayans, no I won't think about the physics of it
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I used to keep a document where I listed all my favorite deaths of Roman emperors and I have no idea what happened to it but off the top of my head some good ones were: Carus: Literally struck by lightning Caracalla: Stabbed in the back by his bodyguard while taking a piss in the desert Jovian: Accidentally poisoned himself by inhaling fumes from a mysterious hole in the ground Constans II: Killed with a bucket
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mycomancy posted:God drat Diogenes was such a shitbird. He's a lot easier to appreciate from a distance of a couple millennia, for sure.
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# ? Aug 18, 2019 05:18 |
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precolombian america was super cool and 1491 is a good book
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twoday posted:
Odysseus??
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Uranium posted:Diogenes also once said, after leaving the privacy of his tub, that he wished he could also satiate his hunger by rubbing his belly. burying the lede there buddy. quote:When scolded for masturbating in public, he said "I wish it were as easy to banish hunger by rubbing my belly."
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twoday Thanks for this thread. Realistically, do you think we’ll ever have a good understanding of Etruscan, beyond what we know now?
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Fuzzy McDoom posted:Jovian: Accidentally poisoned himself by inhaling fumes from a mysterious hole in the ground the TCC emperor
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# ? Aug 18, 2019 09:38 |
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This is a cool thread and I'm glad it's here. It's not really ancient history (more early medieval) but the talk about the Khazars did remind me of the Khazar Correspondence which I really love. Basically a Sephardic Jew in Muslim Spain (who was employed by the Caliph) heard of the Jewish khanate out on the steppes and sent a letter which eventually found its way to the Khazar Khanate and the Khan actually wrote back to him. It's a pretty fascinating look at 10th century society and the whole idea of it always strikes me as really cool. You can read the letter and its reply here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_Correspondence
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Aw, I can't remember the name of that place anymore but I remember climbing on those a long time ago. Or some just like it...
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# ? Aug 18, 2019 12:48 |
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Inspector Hound posted:Aw, I can't remember the name of that place anymore but I remember climbing on those a long time ago. Or some just like it... are you the ghost of a monkey
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# ? Aug 18, 2019 12:57 |
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twoday posted:are you the ghost of a monkey In many ways, but no I'm guessing it's in Cambodia? I remember a site that was a bunch of small, discrete buildings like that on a grassy/sandy clearing. I'm probably wrong buy it was fun to remember (pretend there's no cigar it's supposed to be Indiana Jones)
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AnEdgelord posted:The steppe nomads fascinate me. AFAIK Barbarian is just a word that pretty much means foreigner. The big nomads had real complex logistics and societies and it seems like the word was basically just PR that survives to this day. It seems to be the same with a lot of barbarian kingdoms Rome bangs on about, they weren't usually much more primitive than Rome just poorer and smaller.
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Roman history is filled with them borrowing customs and inventions from the 'barbarians' who they disdained as primitives.
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Fuzzy McDoom posted:I used to keep a document where I listed all my favorite deaths of Roman emperors and I have no idea what happened to it but off the top of my head some good ones were: Valentinian I: So enraged by Quadi envoys that he burst a blood vessel shouting at them and fell over dead.
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Tiberius: He "died" of old age at 77. As people were standing around mourning him, he woke up, asked for something to eat, and then one of his servants freaked out and choked the emperor to death with his own clothes because he thought he was a zombie
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ancient history owns, its all the same maniac human poo poo we've got today but its so far in the past I don't feel bad about it
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Hentai Jihadist posted:ancient history owns, its all the same maniac human poo poo we've got today but its so far in the past I don't feel bad about it The graffiti of Pompeii is one of my favorite examples of this, and one of the reasons that I'm convinced that if in some distant future a successor race of humans returns to the blasted planet to sort through our ruins after the long lost past, their first reaction is likely to be, "heh, dickbutt." Hentai Jihadist posted:AFAIK Barbarian is just a word that pretty much means foreigner. The big nomads had real complex logistics and societies and it seems like the word was basically just PR that survives to this day. While yes "barbarian" translated directly as "foreigner" for both the Greeks and Romans, it necessarily came larded down with a ton of baggage due to the cultural chauvinism baked in to both those languages. Hell, the Greeks considered the Macedonians, who were part of the same cultural heritage, to be barely one step above living in mud holes and whaling on each other with clubs.
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i started watching that chinese show, Three Kingdoms a while back about the RotTK period two things were immedaitely noticeable: - very homoerotic but there is no sex anywhere, the only people who are confirmed to have sex are villains - constant references to devouring people and cooking them as punishment so i went on a brief googling tour of some chinese history and it turns out ancient chinese people were all gay cannibals there's the famous cut-sleeve emperor (who cut his sleeve off rather than move his sleeping boyfriend) who made his teen boyfriend into the military commander of all china and built him an imperial palace before people got pissed off about it his dad, the previous emperor, may have died of a viagra overdose the friendly sleepovers they show in the tv show almost certainly involved a lot of loving, apparently emperor's boyfriends were so common they are written about but without much interest in the ancient records. theres a cool emperor with a real interesting life story i was researching to maybe write about and looking around found out that the main "villain" of the peice, essentially the evil vizier type, was having an open affair with his slavemaster who was also loving his wife. (and this guy was considered pretty much the greatest man in china at this point) Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 14:34 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:The graffiti of Pompeii is one of my favorite examples of this, and one of the reasons that I'm convinced that if in some distant future a successor race of humans returns to the blasted planet to sort through our ruins after the long lost past, their first reaction is likely to be, "heh, dickbutt." yeah i agree its sorta like today where the states are all fairly similar but some would be considered more "barbaric" than others like the united $tate$ of amerikkka
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twoday posted:
Hey dude, from where is that graphic? I'd like to fix two typos in it and then put it on a T-shirt.
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twoday posted:So, what kind of wax was this? What kind of letters? Where did the ship come from? How did the birds get there? Clearly it's Atlantis, duh
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small brain: the Mayans are similar to the Greek city states Large brain: the inca were the Roman empire of the americas Galaxy brain: Tarascans are the Etruscans on the new world
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I always like the story how ancient football hooliganism almost destroyed the Byzantine empire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm9mscL2qHU
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Captain_Maclaine posted:The graffiti of Pompeii is one of my favorite examples of this, and one of the reasons that I'm convinced that if in some distant future a successor race of humans returns to the blasted planet to sort through our ruins after the long lost past, their first reaction is likely to be, "heh, dickbutt."
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Ancient history is pretty neat. An actress and sex worker eventually married a Byzantine emperor, saved his reign by subduing riots, rebuilt Constantinople, and was venerated as a saint: Theodora.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:The graffiti of Pompeii is one of my favorite examples of this, and one of the reasons that I'm convinced that if in some distant future a successor race of humans returns to the blasted planet to sort through our ruins after the long lost past, their first reaction is likely to be, "heh, dickbutt." "The ancient pre-interstellar american civilization appeared to worship this double sided anthropomorphic phallus as a god. They would even include him in unrelated media. The implication being that all things ultimately lead back to dickbutt" Hentai Jihadist posted:so i went on a brief googling tour of some chinese history and it turns out ancient chinese people were all gay cannibals sry to burst your bubble but the cannibal thing was likely the invention of later dynasties in order to demonize Dong Zhou
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Dreddout posted:"The ancient pre-interstellar american civilization appeared to worship this double sided anthropomorphic phallus as a god. They would even include him in unrelated media. The implication being that all things ultimately lead back to dickbutt" brb got a new book proposal to submit to my publisher.
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the word barbarians, from greek barbaroi, is literally exactly the same kind of insult as if we called chinese people "ching chong" today. the greeks felt that bar bar bar was what west asians sounded like
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I played a ton of Age of Empires 1 as a kid and I attribute that to my long-running interest in antiquity.
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# ? Aug 18, 2019 16:56 |
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Inspector Hound posted:Aw, I can't remember the name of that place anymore but I remember climbing on those a long time ago. Or some just like it... This is Mỹ Sơn in Central Vietnam not far from Da Nang. It is one of the best preserved sites of the old Champa civilization that predated the Vietnamese in the area. I visited it a few years back. It's a beautiful place. The Americans bombed it during the Vietnam War.
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Real hurthling! posted:the word barbarians, from greek barbaroi, is literally exactly the same kind of insult as if we called chinese people "ching chong" today. I don't know why but this struck me as very funny.
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Real hurthling! posted:the word barbarians, from greek barbaroi, is literally exactly the same kind of insult as if we called chinese people "ching chong" today. From this the Barbary Coast of North Africa got its name, and this is why the people there are called Berbers. They would call themselves Amazigh or some other local group name.
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Shibby0709 posted:This is Mỹ Sơn in Central Vietnam not far from Da Nang. It is one of the best preserved sites of the old Champa civilization that predated the Vietnamese in the area. I visited it a few years back. It's a beautiful place. The Americans bombed it during the Vietnam War. my large world heritage son
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Uranium posted:Ancient history is pretty neat. An actress and sex worker eventually married a Byzantine emperor, saved his reign by subduing riots, rebuilt Constantinople, and was venerated as a saint: Theodora. Well. She didn't subdue the riots, Belisarius did by killing thousands of people. She just gave Justinian some backbone by scolding him when he was thinking of grabbing the Imperial treasury and legging it.
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Anyone have some cool ancient deities to share? I think Bes is kind of neat. He was the ancient Egyptian dwarf god of music and warfare. People used to pray to him for protection from snake bites.
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Dreddout posted:"The ancient pre-interstellar american civilization appeared to worship this double sided anthropomorphic phallus as a god. They would even include him in unrelated media. The implication being that all things ultimately lead back to dickbutt" dong zhou is the least of it. i dont know a whole lot about china but from what i've looked into it medicinal cannibalism and cannibalism as a "gently caress you" seem fairly common in chinese history even into the modern period according to wikipedia people were also just straight up cooked as food in "ancient times" but its very badly sourced every culture has some weird poo poo to do with cannibalism though, look at the catholics, but im still holding onto my ancient gay cannibals hypothesis
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