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Murderbot got a Hugo, as did some other good things.
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The Kindle SF deal that has TMBC in it also has Animal Farm in it. Am I narrowminded or are there zero right-thinking people in the world who would take the talking-animal conceit literally enough to class it under SF/F?
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Murderbot got a Hugo, as did some other good things. Good Hugos and Jeannette Ng won the Campbell and took no prisoners in her speech https://medium.com/@nettlefish/john-w-campbell-for-whom-this-award-was-named-was-a-fascist-f693323d3293 Mary Robinette Kowal was given a Hugo for the first Lady Astronaut novel by an actual lady astronaut!
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Under The Pendulum Sun was one of my favourite books from last year, so I'm stoked at Jeanette Ng's win. And hell yeah, what a speech.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:The Kindle SF deal that has TMBC in it also has Animal Farm in it. Am I narrowminded or are there zero right-thinking people in the world who would take the talking-animal conceit literally enough to class it under SF/F? The full title of the work is "Animal Farm - A Fairy Story" (at least, on my first edition copy that I can't find), and it uses a fantastical notion as an allegory for real-world political philosophy. That makes it qualify, as far as I am concerned.
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"This book about talking animals is obviously a serious political and satirical text and therefore cannot possibly be a fantasy" is the take of a coward.
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Bhodi posted:It's a buddy cop vacation miniseries All things to all men, is what it is.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Murderbot got a Hugo, as did some other good things. They didn't let Murderbot into the Hugo party https://twitter.com/marthawells1/status/1163226612239937537
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They didn't let Murderbot into the Hugo party The next murderbot should be dedicated to “the Hugos, who didn’t allow me to attend the ceremony in which I won a Hugo”
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mewse posted:The next murderbot should be dedicated to “the Hugos, who didn’t allow me to attend the ceremony in which I won a Hugo” Murderbot is too cool for that party anyway
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Gnoman posted:The full title of the work is "Animal Farm - A Fairy Story" (at least, on my first edition copy that I can't find), and it uses a fantastical notion as an allegory for real-world political philosophy. That makes it qualify, as far as I am concerned. 90s Cringe Rock posted:"This book about talking animals is obviously a serious political and satirical text and therefore cannot possibly be a fantasy" is the take of a coward. (honestly, if his career had followed the arc I would have predicted from The Sirens of Titan, he would have been universally acknowledged as one of the all-time SF greats and also nobody would have ever heard of him)
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They didn't let Murderbot into the Hugo party Hack the party bus over WiFi, crash it into a tree, then go back to the hotel and watch Mexican soap operas
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They didn't let Murderbot into the Hugo party GRRM trying to keep all the appetizers to himself
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Can't wait for Murderbot omni so I can buy them all again! And also it will make thrusting the full volume at people an easier sell on 'READ THOU THIS'
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They didn't let Murderbot into the Hugo party This was apparently corrected, but the Hugos were a bit of a shitshow all around. https://twitter.com/pnh/status/1163073131650670592
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TBF, the Irish have always hated the handicapped almost as much as Protestants.
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ulmont posted:This was apparently corrected, but the Hugos were a bit of a shitshow all around.  This makes me angrier than Martha Wells being turned away
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are we sure it wasn't just rothfuss being banned then the other authors jumping to the wrong conclusion? i wouldn't let him into my party.
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Patrick Spens posted:How is that possible? https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/1163252077264609280
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Yikes, that's terrible.PupsOfWar posted:GRRM trying to keep all the appetizers to himself Rubbish, he's too busy running the losers' party. E: not a burn, it's a real thing, though of course I don't know if he's involved every year: http://fancyclopedia.org/hugo-losers-party Safety Biscuits fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Aug 19, 2019 |
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Safety Biscuits posted:Yikes, that's terrible. The party everyone's not able to get into is the losers' party! (I don't know why the winners are allowed though) e: also very glad Mia Sereno got a Hugo. She deserves it for her art alone. But her mom, the Chief Justice of the Philippines Supreme Court, was impeached by Duterte on extremely lovely grounds. Everything Mia writes about resistance and oppression has that extra weight of experience. General Battuta fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Aug 19, 2019 |
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For what it's worth, here's what I would have voted if I could afford a supporting membership: Novel Ballot 1: Spinning Silver by Naomi Novik 2: Revenant Gun by Yoon Ha Lee 3: The Calculating Stars by Mary Robinette Kowal 4: Record of a Spaceborn Few by Becky Chambers 5: Trail of Lightning by Rebecca Roanhorse 6: NO AWARD 7: Space Opera by Catherynne M. Valente Novella Ballot 1: Beneath the Sugar Sky by Seanan McGuire 2: Artificial Condition by Martha Wells 3: Binti: The Night Masquerade by Nnedi Okorafor 4: Gods, Monsters, and the Lucky Peach by Kelly Robson 5: NO AWARD 6: The Tea master and the Detective by Aliette de Bodard 7: The Black God's Drums by P. Djeli Clark Novelette Ballot 1: "If at First You Don't Succeed, Try, Try Again" by Zen Cho 2: "Nine Last Days on Planet Earth" by Daryl Gregory 3: "The Last Banquet of Temporal Confections" by Tina Connolly 4: "When We Were Starless" by Simone Heller 5: "The Thing About Ghost Stories" by Naomi Kritzer 6: NO AWARD 7: The Only Harmless Great Thing by Brooke Bolander Short Story Ballot: 1: "The Secret Lives of the Nine Negro Teeth of George Washington" by P. Djeli Clark 2: "The Rose MacGregor Drinking and Admiration Society" by T. Kingfisher 3: "A Witch's Guide to Escape: A Practical Compendium of Portal Fantasies" by Alix E. Harrow 4: "The Tale of the Three Beautiful Raptor Sisters, and the Prince Who Was Made of Meat" by Brooke Bolander 5: "STET" by Sarah Gailey 6: NO AWARD 7: "The Court Magician" by Sarah Pinsker uber_stoat posted:don't get me wrong, I enjoyed that stuff at the time! fond memories. My dad had dozens of that line of Shadowrun books. Sadly I only got to the first five before he sold them all. Are they even available anymore?
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Space Opera is a weird book. I alternated every few pages between enjoying the anecdotes about the galactic species, and hating the atrocious 'witty' prose and the nothing plot. I'm not sure how it was popular enough to even get on the ballot.
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Solitair posted:My dad had dozens of that line of Shadowrun books. Sadly I only got to the first five before he sold them all. Are they even available anymore? https://www.amazon.com/gp/bookseries/B00CKCKVNC/ref=dp_st_3453062116
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Safety Biscuits posted:Yikes, that's terrible. Y'all joke but https://twitter.com/AdriJjy/status/1163226585341865984 https://twitter.com/OctopusGallery/status/1163253888922918912
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Tokamak posted:Space Opera is a weird book. I alternated every few pages between enjoying the anecdotes about the galactic species, and hating the atrocious 'witty' prose and the nothing plot. I'm not sure how it was popular enough to even get on the ballot. Because the Hugos are currently heavily skewed towards a certain set of modern, liberal, mostly female authors as the pendulum swings away from the previous set of old-fashioned, conservative, mostly male authors, and Catherynne Valente is a part of the in-group. I'm very happy that we're getting more authors who aren't straight white men being published, because most of my favourite SF/F authors have come out of the new wave, but I think it's also true that the SF/F field is currently dominated by a particular kind of voice -- just like it used to be ruled by the ersatz Heinlein / Tolkien brigade. (OTOH the new authors are generally... better. So that's nice.)
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The SFF scene was run by white guys for 70 years and I'm happy to have literally everyone else in charge instead. ulmont posted:This was apparently corrected, but the Hugos were a bit of a shitshow all around. This also did get sorted out but the convention committee, i.e. the Powers That Be, had to be involved. They also tried speech to text captioning during the ceremony and that was also a shitshow. Veteran attendees have bitched about the queues once again but that's really a function of the fandom growing so much.
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Tokamak posted:Space Opera is a weird book. I alternated every few pages between enjoying the anecdotes about the galactic species, and hating the atrocious 'witty' prose and the nothing plot. I'm not sure how it was popular enough to even get on the ballot. I tried reading it and felt like I was watching a Joss Whedon show starring the Gilmore Girls and didn't get very far. Should try again tho since it was kinda fun. Hugos being dominated by women is cool and good, hope Campbell is having a stroke in hell. I finally got around to picking up Solaris and it's cool how it starts off all hosed up, Kelvin comes onto the station and there's just stuff all over the floor and a crazy guy and maybe a dead guy? Gonna like this one I think.
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ulmont posted:This was apparently corrected, but the Hugos were a bit of a shitshow all around. Ironcially: https://twitter.com/Dublin2019/status/1163178187540619264 https://twitter.com/Fi_FyFoFum/status/1161617165402984448
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Sulphagnist posted:Good Hugos and Jeannette Ng won the Campbell and took no prisoners in her speech https://medium.com/@nettlefish/john-w-campbell-for-whom-this-award-was-named-was-a-fascist-f693323d3293 Do we know what the hat thing is?
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I deeply wish that Valente had gotten the nom for Radiance instead of Space Opera. Radiance is leagues better in every way.
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my bony fealty posted:I tried reading it and felt like I was watching a Joss Whedon show starring the Gilmore Girls and didn't get very far. Should try again tho since it was kinda fun. (Like Austin Grossman's Crooked, which took the at-least-intriguing idea of "ritual magician Richard Nixon was selected to be vice president because of his bloodline" and then pissed all over it by being unable to, you know, write Nixon. I bring this up at every opportunity because that book had all kinds of stuff I really liked in it, but the book itself sucked.)
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The really hosed up thing about Space Opera is that, by Valente trying to glorify Hitchhiker's Guide and Eurovision at the same time, she made me despise the galactic version of Eurovision presented in the book because of how cynical it all is.
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So basically it's the Rick and Morty schwifty episode except the genocidal karaoke contest is unironically good?
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Clark Nova posted:So basically it's the Rick and Morty schwifty episode except the genocidal karaoke contest is unironically good?
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So I picked up Grunt Life by Weston Ochse and it's military sci-fi about a soldier who tries to commit suicide and gets stopped and drafted into TASK FORCE OMBRA to fight aliens. I'm posting here now because the first part of his training was being locked into a suicide-proof cell with a tablet loaded full of books and movies and he's told to read/watch everything and answer questions on them before he can leave and move into PHASE II of the training. Which is to say, that's one hell of a way to get a guy to read CJ Cherryh. I love it. I'm gonna have to try it on my friends.  quote:I woke up the next morning—or at least it felt like morning, even though I had no possible way of knowing—and returned to my tablet. COMPLETION OF YOUR PROGRAM OF INSTRUCTION WILL RESULT IN RELEASE FROM PHASE I TO PHASE II were the words I read with excitement, until I saw what was expected of us. The sheer number of books and papers I was supposed to read seemed impossible. I counted ninety-six manuscripts, forty-seven movies, and seven biographies which we were expected to read well enough to provide interactive input to the tablet upon completion. It was a genius strategy. With no bars, it might take some of us forever to complete this list. Hell, let’s face it, most of us wouldn’t even try and finish, if we weren’t locked inside the cells. By limiting our freedom, then offering it back to us if we completed, they were giving a huge incentive. Even the laziest of us would be inspired to get this done.
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How much do people use Goodreads to determine what novels to check out? Wondering whether the books with the highest ratings are actually the best books. (my guess is no)
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