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Rotten Red Rod posted:Wait wait, why are they saying this is equivalent to $100? Does real cash-bought currency in SC cost that much?! Yeah you can buy in-game currency at about $1 = 1000 uec. This is an even more unusually terrible transaction than normal, for Star Citizen. 20k UEC is the equivalent of maybe three combat missions. Most mid-size ships cost 2-3 million UEC. Casting the refuel cost as "$100 of in-game currency" is really kind of an exaggeration imo, because $100 of in-game currency gets you next to nothing. It's more like "3 hours of in-game grinding" and they happened to price that at like $100 years ago because oops they didn't actually bother to design their economy and they waaaay over-valued the UEC.
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The thread about the 890 fuel cost has some amazing rationalizations, some of them directly contradicting each other... "The 890 shouldn't make money and that's intended"  "The 890 will make a ton of money and pay for itself"  "It isn't pay to win because no one can afford to fuel all the ships they bought"   "I can absolutely afford to fuel all the ships I bought and this is ok because I'm rich and therefore win"
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Sarsapariller posted:All these dense Citizens running into the sub thread like "No actually it's not for solo use." The citizens are the best group I've ever seen at extrapolating things CIG says and equating them to existing and implemented systems. This despite the fact that CIG has produced 8 years of raw sewage and called it a game. They can't get a scope to work on a gun for the FPS segment built in an FPS engine, but everything they say will be done is immediately taken at face value.
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Sarsapariller posted:Casting the refuel cost as "$100 of in-game currency" is really kind of an exaggeration imo, because $100 of in-game currency gets you next to nothing. I only really used it, because there was somebody in the thread realizing that they spent $200 + $890 on basically nothing as their 200k is pointless, their 890J is non-flyable without dozens of hours of grinding to buy fuel and they are basically fokked in teh aaaarrrrse and stuck flying with worse ships. It kinda sounded like they were in the shock a bit, but not sure, letters don't convey that well.
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it's funny because it's a luxury liner with (presumably?) huge cargo so you could make a million spacebucks per second or something, but commodities in the game do not exist. it's literally a lesser game than loving privateer after 7 years of development lmao
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Truga posted:it's funny because it's a luxury liner with (presumably?) huge cargo so you could make a million spacebucks per second or something, but commodities in the game do not exist. it's literally a lesser game than loving privateer after 7 years of development lmao But just wait until they add TOURING! That's on the roadmap, right?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:But just wait until they add TOURING! That's on the roadmap, right? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/14804-Design-Notes-Civilian-Passenger-Transport  
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By the way, I find the whole point of "You buy a space ship so you can't play it" extremely funny, it sounds so very Crobear. I remember Elite having this (top A-rated ships could cost a billion credits, so insurance would cost 50 millions and active PvPers could die tens of times per hour for training) and people absolutely hated this, until Elite got core mining, where you can make the profit for this basically instantly (seen people make like 300M per hour tops, which is enough even for PvPers and for non-PvPers it tends to last weeks to months if they don't buy new ships). I wonder what people will say when (if) SC goes live and on their 50 player servers (I doubt there will be more) a group of guys in end-game ships will just spawn-camp a station and kill everyone repeatedly, until they have no ships left and are left with long-rear end spawn timers and say "gently caress it," and ragequit.
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Virtual Captain posted:which is more delicious? First option. CI
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Truga posted:
Burned out units => we sell you Chinese crap Excessive radio interference may prevent a solid communications data link => okay can in turn be addressed via a player quickly matching a set of binary filters to a hexadecimal status code before the interfering frequency and offsetting status code change => why can't it do this automatically? Recalibration of a misaligned audio processor can be accomplished via pressing a sequence of eight buttons associated with musical notes to match a test melody whose length is dictated by the extent of the failure => why can't it do this automatically? Carefully soldering a loose connection => we sell you Chinese crap This reads like a bad docdesign of an 8 year old kid, trying to whip out some excuse. "This stops working, because... uhhh... ehhh... the, erm... tubulatrons failed and, uhh... you need to caress them gently and ah... establish a connection by errrrmmmm... holding them straight for long enough before they, uh, work again." Star Trek: TOS is more believable than this pile of crap.
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The whole 100 dollars to fuel up.... It's really the payception you pay just to find new pay walls. Despite the system being comprised by the Chinese government I played first couple of mission of rebel galaxy outlaw and already I have more gameplay than all my years of star citizen also be it did not crash Inspite of great firewall of china, also epic store was not full of porn games and also they offered me a free game.... Not managed a hate boner ... Am I uncool?
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"Flying around the big ships needs to be an earned privilege. Also I purchased every single jpeg in my fleet with real money" just lol do they write this with a straight face.
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DigitalPenny posted:The whole 100 dollars to fuel up.... It's really the payception you pay just to find new pay walls. I kind of want to play that game - I may have to also pledge my undying loyalty to and promise harmonious thought with our new Chinese overlords.
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Colostomy Bag posted:B. When ever there is a new location in the game, a given server will have dozens of people who want to see it lol LITERALLY dozens of people
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Rotten Red Rod posted:what the gently caress There's so much historical data to this shitshow that even people following for years find something new to facepalm over. It really is something, isn't it?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:But just wait until they add TOURING! That's on the roadmap, right? Where’s my god drat couples touring?
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Flared Basic Bitch posted:Where’s my god drat couples touring? Not really the market CI
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Rotten Red Rod posted:The thread about the 890 fuel cost has some amazing rationalizations, some of them directly contradicting each other... I'm just wondering where he got the 'big group' idea.
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:I'm just wondering where he got the 'big group' idea. Oh man I'm reading it closer and this post is such a roller coaster between  and hilarity:
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Oh man I'm reading it closer and this post is such a roller coaster between Is Michael Scott a star citizen?
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:Burned out units => we sell you Chinese crap
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I remember the drink mixing thing, but I had forgotten about how insane the server blades thing was. How poo poo is the tech in their in-game lore that it's even worth considering how to repair this crap? I'm just imagining a current-day airplane having someone go pop open a server rack while in-flight to solder a connection or manually playing a musical clip (?????) to calibrate the audio output. What even is a "burned-out unit", are their server blades regularly catching on loving fire?
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kw0134 posted:More importantly, this is very few people's definition of fun. On a realism level it's absurd, none of this makes any sense. On a gaming level, it still doesn't make any sense. Are you going to replace the entire rack of blades on a single flight? Is your entire four hour trip running to and fro the galley to supply bespoke drinks to a bunch of passengers who have endless bladders? I can't wait to get home so I can play IT/bartender slave for an additional shift! Don't worry, passengers won't have endless bladders, they will have to empty them via an immersive toilet mini game, so they might imbibe in more hairy roberts later. Fidelity!
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Fidelitious posted:I remember the drink mixing thing, but I had forgotten about how insane the server blades thing was. Usual thing that happens in TYOL 2019 is if the IFE doesn't work then the airline tosses a ETC of around $200 to folks. Now imagine that getting subtracted from your alpha credits. 
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Fidelitious posted:I remember the drink mixing thing, but I had forgotten about how insane the server blades thing was. Sounds more like Space Team than Star Citizen. If you don't know what Space Team is, you should, it's real good. Also there's a card game version.
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kw0134 posted:More importantly, this is very few people's definition of fun. On a realism level it's absurd, none of this makes any sense. On a gaming level, it still doesn't make any sense. Are you going to replace the entire rack of blades on a single flight? Is your entire four hour trip running to and fro the galley to supply bespoke drinks to a bunch of passengers who have endless bladders? I can't wait to get home so I can play IT/bartender slave for an additional shift! Even worse, when they first talked about "blades" they were referring to in-flight movies. Each seat needs it's own blade and each blade has a single movie on it. So you'll be swapping out blades like its a god damned vcr from the loving 90s (because of course its 90s era, Crobear nostalgia trip).
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A Citizen walks into a bar. "I realize I don't have any friends or anything, so I'll most likely have to assemble an org myself", he says to the Bartender. "Because, obviously, I want to be at the top. I want it to be MY org", he says. Another Citizen walks into a bar. ""I realize I don't have any friends or anything, so I'll most likely have to assemble an org myself", he says to the facepalming Bartender. ...
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kw0134 posted:More importantly, this is very few people's definition of fun. On a realism level it's absurd, none of this makes any sense. On a gaming level, it still doesn't make any sense. Are you going to replace the entire rack of blades on a single flight? Is your entire four hour trip running to and fro the galley to supply bespoke drinks to a bunch of passengers who have endless bladders? I can't wait to get home so I can play IT/bartender slave for an additional shift! Reads to me like someone had zero ideas how to make a game out of running a passenger liner.
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Nyast posted:A Citizen walks into a bar. "I realize I don't have any friends or anything, so I'll most likely have to assemble an org myself", he says to the Bartender. "Because, obviously, I want to be at the top. I want it to be MY org", he says. "Everyone will want to be captain of some big honking ship." "We're going to need cooks and pilots and gunners." Sandepande posted:Reads to me like someone had zero ideas how to make a game out of running a passenger liner. Someone played Diner Dash and said, "Yes, this is what the captains of industry who funded our game for thousands of dollars each would like to do."
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I have mixed feels about DaGaimez. On the one hand, he coined the absolutely hilarious term "scamerino". On the other , he has this constant vibe of guy who just read the beginner's guide to being an influencer and generating engagement . I actually watched his "IT'S NOT A SCAM!" video on a late night and it's just so.... Between the grandiose music, calls to action, going from "all your ideas are valid, don't let anyone tell you different!" to "THIS is what they need to do now, everything else can wait". There was a webcomic I read some time ago ( think it was SMBC) that made fun of how political speeches have to be vague nonsensical mush with no clear ideology, since the more specific the issues you're addressing, the less people will care about them, and the less people will support you. It ended with a candidate literally shouting "MOAR BETERNESS! LESS WORSENESS!" to a crowd of cheering plebs. That's what DaGaimez reminds me of. EDIT: I should clarify. I have nothing against the guy for wanting to make it big on youtube. I DO have a problem with the things he is embracing. The fake influencer nature . Sample_text fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 20, 2019 |
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Nyast posted:A Citizen walks into a bar. "I realize I don't have any friends or anything, so I'll most likely have to assemble an org myself", he says to the Bartender. "Because, obviously, I want to be at the top. I want it to be MY org", he says. "There needs to be enough players with entry level ships so that they see it as a positive and privilege to be invited to work on my larger ship and become part of my crew. Their reward (apart from wages) will be to explore and adventure in places they would never survive solo. All in all it's a win win situation to own and crew a larger ship which will then be part of a fleet." 
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