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split core/support queue is many years late, but a great boon to the game I'm still getting two support players who aren't playing support, but at least they're getting LPQ after two games of getting reported for it. And I'm not feeding fighting for offlane and reluctantly playing support on some trash hero who can't do it anymore.
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Willow is the most confusing hero design to me. Like, why give her five skills where all of them are crazy strong? She'd be totally fine with just four. Of course she's one of the best support heroes in the whole game and one of the most picked heroes - she's got one more skill than every other hero
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Aug 20, 2019 00:46
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IronicDongz posted:Does anyone actually play All Random? Yes. All Random, Single Draft, and Ability Draft unironically have the best matchmaking pools because all the sweatys and retards drift towards turbo and the various forms of All Pick. I enjoy these modes most with parties because your way more likely to get a fun and chill game of dota to play with your friends.
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Aug 20, 2019 06:26
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Willow is the most confusing hero design to me. Like, why give her five skills where all of them are crazy strong? She'd be totally fine with just four. Of course she's one of the best support heroes in the whole game and one of the most picked heroes - she's got one more skill than every other hero shes also made of paper and almost as mana hungry as skywrath but without the instant murder potential that he has. so shes not op, imo, merely very strong and useful. i hate heroes like AA or treant that are also strong and useful but have abilities that rapidly become useless in the late game
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Aug 20, 2019 08:42
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Played a game as ES in the offlane with wraith king. Won handily against Riki and Bane. My WK used his ample farm to go Solar Crest into Necronomicon. #Just1kThings
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Willow is the most confusing hero design to me. Like, why give her five skills where all of them are crazy strong? She'd be totally fine with just four. Of course she's one of the best support heroes in the whole game and one of the most picked heroes - she's got one more skill than every other hero icefrog lost his design touch.
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Aug 20, 2019 16:21
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At least solar and necro are really good items on any hero.
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Aug 20, 2019 18:59
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IronicDongz posted:Does anyone actually play All Random? I used to, exclusively. 2k matches or so. Until they broke the mode the patch when they made the big random rework. Repick was gone (crucial for people randoming Meepo/Wisp/Invoker etc). Bonus gold was also gone, which isn't that big a deal, except you also did not get the new stuff you were supposed to get for randoming (mango+branch iirc). Also you didn't get the free tp that everyone was supposed to get from 7.00 onwards. This completely decimated the population of the mode. All of a sudden my queue times went from 3-4 mins to 10+ and I just stopped playing AR, started playing AP and randoming there. I don't even know if they ever bothered to fix those clearly unintended changes to AR. I could never understand why the random rework even happened in the first place. If people were complaining about people randoming in ranked they could have easily just... disabled randoming in ranked? As you can probably tell, I'm still mad about it, 2 years later.
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Haven't played a MOBA in ages. Played a bunch of league way back in the day and more recently hots. Are there any Heroes I should jump on or avoid when I try this out tonight? Ive played a few times but kind of bounced off the game because I had a hard time getting used to items and some of the odder stuff like turning not being instant
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Aug 20, 2019 23:27
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w00tmonger posted:Haven't played a MOBA in ages. Played a bunch of league way back in the day and more recently hots. Play Invoker alllllll night long
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Aug 20, 2019 23:35
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Johnny Truant posted:Play Invoker alllllll night long Isn't invoker real complicated?
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Aug 21, 2019 00:42
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Good heroes to start with: Cores - Wraith King, Sniper, Drow Ranger, Phantom Assassin, Juggernaut, Ogre Magi Offlane - Doom, Centaur Warruner, Bristleback, Tidehunter, Slardar, Ogre Magi Support - Lion, Jakiro, Crystal Maiden, Shadow Shaman, Ogre Magi Avoid: Invoker, Arc Warden, Meepo, Io, Chen, Visage, Lone Druid, Brewmaster, Tinker, Techies, all heroes with Spirit in their name.
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Aug 21, 2019 00:57
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w00tmonger posted:Isn't invoker real complicated? Oh yeah, I was being very facetious 
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w00tmonger posted:Haven't played a MOBA in ages. Played a bunch of league way back in the day and more recently hots. just play Lina and go to whatever lane is empty, or join someone on a sidelane. can't go wrong.
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w00tmonger posted:Isn't invoker real complicated? yeah Invoker is the most complicated by far So I think Dota items are a lot easier to learn than League items, because when I tried to learn League recently it felt like every carry item was just all stats, and it was almost impossible for me to weight the effectiveness of ability power vs damage vs attack speed. Dota makes things easier by giving just about every item stats, but then also a secondary function. So, let's take Antimage - he's got an ability that each attack drains the enemies mana, but it's a flat amount per attack, so it makes sense to build attack speed over damage. So, you look at the attack speed items, and Butterfly is a LOT of agility and attack speed, but then you see Manta, and that lets you create two more illusions that also burn mana - so, it's easy to see why people would build Manta on him all the time. My suggestion is to pick a hero that you're going to play for a few rounds in a row, play them until you have their abilities memorized, then move onto another one. My biggest issue in League is that I have no idea what 90% of the heroes do, but I can't play any of the ones I haven't bought (I'm never spending money on the game so I don't have many). Pick a role that interests you (Offlane, Mid, Support, Carry) and then go to dotabuff and look up the best heroes in the role and try them all out. Look at some recent games by high MMR players and look at what items they got and in what order to give you a general idea of what a final inventory might look like. But, honestly, most of it is just grinding out games. I went into Dota 2 with no moba experience aside from Monday Night Combat and I just bounced hero-to-hero and learned that way. My first heroes that I spammed were Venomancer, Razor, and Sven
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Aug 21, 2019 01:13
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Larry Parrish posted:treant [...] rapidly become useless in the late game lmao. get a freakin armlet, whatever the attack speed hat is called, and a drat basher bro. man up. battle tree ftw
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Aug 21, 2019 01:23
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get a fukin dagon 5 my man
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Aug 21, 2019 01:23
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Pudge and Miranda are fun heroes have a good time
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Aug 21, 2019 01:37
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i used to LOVE (old instant HP) armlet, MoM and blade mail on tree. "if you're taking more damage with MoM then you'll reflect more damage with blade mail" was my incredibly strategic thought pattern
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goku i won't do what u tell me
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KRILLIN IN THE NAME posted:i used to LOVE (old instant HP) armlet, MoM and blade mail on tree. "if you're taking more damage with MoM then you'll reflect more damage with blade mail" was my incredibly strategic thought pattern I still remember getting into arguments with people about Battlefury Bounty Hunter in 2013 those were the days
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Aug 21, 2019 01:39
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Wasn't it around the same time that there was an interaction bug that caused people to buy shadowblade on BH? Ah, so many years ago now.
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Aug 21, 2019 02:01
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Ojetor posted:Good heroes to start with: Windranger and Enchantress are good cores/offlane as well, anything with high mobility that can flash farm or withstand endgame levels of physical damage, magic burst is generally easier to itemize against.
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Aug 21, 2019 02:19
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Andrigaar posted:Wasn't it around the same time that there was an interaction bug that caused people to buy shadowblade on BH? Yeah the Jinada crit was multiplicative with the Shadow Blade bonus damage
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Ojetor posted:Good heroes to start with: To add on to this, Vengeful Spirit is the exception to the above "spirit" rule and is very straightforward to learn. She's also very versatile and can be played as either a support or a core depending on the rest of your team.
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Aug 21, 2019 02:38
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don’t forget spirit breaker.
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Venge and SB are very good with their BKB piercing disables, relies on having a team that can push with you though, which is rare at lower skill levels
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Aug 21, 2019 02:48
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KRILLIN IN THE NAME posted:i used to LOVE (old instant HP) armlet, MoM and blade mail on tree. "if you're taking more damage with MoM then you'll reflect more damage with blade mail" was my incredibly strategic thought pattern Hell yea
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Aug 21, 2019 03:05
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Get a mask of madness on nortrom to throw discs with the quickness. Little pro gamer move
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Play Turbo, pick Io and get yourself an Aghs and Heart and mow down bitches
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Makes me really sad that they’ve cleaned up a lot of the goofier ability draft interactions. RIP dusa mana shield triggering over charge and aftershock
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Smythe posted:lmao. get a freakin armlet, whatever the attack speed hat is called, and a drat basher bro. man up. battle tree ftw yeah but you dont need to pick tree to do that. you can just play any str support
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Larry Parrish posted:yeah but you dont need to pick tree to do that. you can just play any str support But can any STR support do this? 
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Larry Parrish posted:i hate heroes like AA or treant that are also strong and useful but have abilities that rapidly become useless in the late game
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Aug 21, 2019 14:37
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#1 goon build was no boots eth blade rush furion.
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Aug 21, 2019 15:23
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The Meteor Hammer build on tree is great just for how hard it lets you split push. He can be a pretty annoying hero to catch even with detection.
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Aug 21, 2019 15:56
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Did they nerf meteor hammer I havent played in like 2 years and havent seen it at TI.
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Aug 21, 2019 15:58
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Looks like it's received nothing but buffs.
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Aug 21, 2019 20:25
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Nanomashoes posted:Did they nerf meteor hammer I havent played in like 2 years and havent seen it at TI. its niche, only ever really bought on nyx or tree and I think OG bought it both times I saw it
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Aug 21, 2019 22:13
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Kild posted:its niche, only ever really bought on nyx or tree and I think OG bought it both times I saw it
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pro cores are always going to want a bigger item than meteor hammer and pro supports can never justify paying nearly 3k for an item with no real team support ability
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