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theshim posted:also mother gently caress once again I'm missing the first two days entirely, aaaarghh I feel your pain brother. My wife has a friend and her husband coming to our house that weekend. I am not too excited by the legion mechanic. I am pretty pumped about all the other poo poo though. If you can save Niko to run on high level maps, RIP scarab prices I guess.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:41
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Zero VGS posted:It's been 5 seconds and someone already took the names BlightMakesRight and BlightyMouse... welp I've exhausted all my creativity and can't think of anything else. Ok I got GigaBlight and ElectroBlight I'm proud of my boundless cleverness.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:43
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Having fully absorbed everything, I really don't know about the tower d but I am excited for the new archetype revamps and at least the oil system seems both strong but not too complicated. And again, stacking master missions is amazing
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Aug 20, 2019 22:43
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Zero VGS posted:Also there's a new dagger that gives +3 to the level of All Physical Spell Skill Gems. Not socketed... ALL Its obviously targeted towards opening up phys spells for CoC but Im guessing this will also bring back spell poison again with the assassin changes.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:46
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Tower defense seems very strange for PoE. Very, very strange. I guess depending on balancing it might just be a pure DPS race plus towers but if they don't attack the player then that's just bizarre. Poison looks like the most fun offhand but I look forward to theory crafting constantly until it finally launches.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:50
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Control Volume posted:Its obviously targeted towards opening up phys spells for CoC but Im guessing this will also bring back spell poison again with the assassin changes. I mean, two of them with a 6-socket Blade Vortex sounds like it would be fairly absurd in anyone's hands. Herald of Agony is a Physical Spell, +3-6 levels to that is fuckin' stupid, I can promise you.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:55
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At least its very anti clear speed, but I fear they may have swung too far in the other direction. I hope they at least learned from legion to make the rewards worthwhile
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Aug 20, 2019 22:56
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Zero VGS posted:Ok I got GigaBlight and ElectroBlight I'm proud of my boundless cleverness. I got ThePenIsBlightier, which works on many levels, except Poet's Pen being garbage, so it won't actually fit my build. I was going to do AllBlight for my punchman but it was taken. Guess I'll do BlightOfWay.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:56
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So mines are traps now?
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Aug 20, 2019 22:56
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Cobra Lash looks like Frost Blades But Poison, that's extremely my poo poo.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:57
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Zero VGS posted:This makes it sound like they might have hosed over VD mines which was one build I really wanted to do... they say they give a bonus for chain-detonating mines so you'd be missing out if you use Scold's Automine detonations. Skitterbots probably won't work at all as I assume they're not going to be where you place corpses. I got the impression that after you push the detonate button they would all queue up and activate in sequence, gaining a bonus for a longer chain. Scold's Automine would probably still work.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:58
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Zenithe posted:So mines are traps now? Yes, except for the chain gimmick, different supports and, via the ziggy video, they apparently reserve a little bit of mana for every mine out on the field. Also you still have to detonate them
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Aug 20, 2019 22:58
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nerox posted:I am not too excited by the legion mechanic. I am pretty pumped about all the other poo poo though. If you can save Niko to run on high level maps, RIP scarab prices I guess. I'd guess from the interface that master missions are banked per map colour, so you can do the previously T11-15 ones at T16, but you won't be able to save all the early white map ones and do them in red maps later.
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Aug 20, 2019 22:58
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I thought mines were generally considered stronger than traps? Seems a bit odd to buff mines and ignore traps. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Aug 20, 2019 23:02
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McFrugal posted:I got the impression that after you push the detonate button they would all queue up and activate in sequence, gaining a bonus for a longer chain. Scold's Automine would probably still work. They already have the perfect game to draw inspiration from, with the most satisfying mine gameplay ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07C5560cpEM&t=69s Both place-at-feet and lock-on mine tossing, if mines played like that in this game I'd never stop playing.
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Aug 20, 2019 23:03
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A point defense league? Time for me to make that sire of shards build.
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Aug 20, 2019 23:05
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tower defense lol I'm still gonna play it
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Aug 20, 2019 23:07
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With Legion Jewels still being a thing, I wonder if you can use anointing to grab legion nodes or if they just give you the effects of the notable. Would be hilarious if you could use the Eternal Empire jewel without needing to waste points on travel nodes.
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Aug 20, 2019 23:07
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Those extra Amulet enchants... A second skill bar row... 
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Aug 20, 2019 23:14
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Captain Foo posted:tower defense lol I predict that tower defense will be fiddly and annoying unless you have insane player DPS that trivializes the encounter After two weeks they will buff player damage on tower defense to trivialize it for everyone
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Aug 20, 2019 23:18
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Tai posted:I thought mines were generally considered stronger than traps? Seems a bit odd to buff mines and ignore traps. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm not sure what's better out of mines and traps right now, but mines have always been pretty unpopular for their power level because a lot of people dont' like (or think they wouldn't like) the playstyle. (The playstyle is "like spells but you have to keep pressing detonate or drop a totem and IV a mana flask, in exchange you get to ignore reflect and phase Uber Atziri so fast she doesn't get to attack")
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Aug 20, 2019 23:18
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Cynic Jester posted:I got ThePenIsBlightier, which works on many levels, except Poet's Pen being garbage, so it won't actually fit my build. I was going to do AllBlight for my punchman but it was taken. Guess I'll do BlightOfWay. BlightForYourRight. The ToParty bit was too long
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Aug 20, 2019 23:21
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Clearly we should all play totem builds in the tower defense league right? And I think the league name might suggest a good spell? Blight Totem Trickster it is 
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Aug 20, 2019 23:22
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No Safe Word posted:Clearly we should all play totem builds in the tower defense league right? And I think the league name might suggest a good spell? I'll probably follow my original plan and play moving totems this league (golems or spectres).
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Aug 20, 2019 23:23
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probably the first league where nothing has really interested me in it at all, drat. still think i'll do a few builds tho
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Aug 20, 2019 23:30
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Zero VGS posted:I mean, two of them with a 6-socket Blade Vortex sounds like it would be fairly absurd in anyone's hands. Ah poo poo I forgot HoA was physical lol. I guess thatll be easy mode again. I dont think itll be that absurd with BV, ele conversion BV is notably better and also gets stats from the wand and shield, so the daggers have to cover that gap too. Itll still probably post better numbers but I dont think itll be meta-defining unless spell poison stops sucking
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Aug 20, 2019 23:41
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I really don't know how to feel about this league idea. I guess I just have to wait and see more gameplay which, like, ugh.
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Aug 20, 2019 23:45
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I like tower defense games but uh I'm not sure I want to play tower defense within an arpg. I guess I'll have to wait and see how it plays but it looked rather fiddly from the preview.
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Aug 20, 2019 23:50
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Cynic Jester posted:With Legion Jewels still being a thing, I wonder if you can use anointing to grab legion nodes or if they just give you the effects of the notable. Would be hilarious if you could use the Eternal Empire jewel without needing to waste points on travel nodes. No Safe Word posted:Clearly we should all play totem builds in the tower defense league right? And I think the league name might suggest a good spell?
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Aug 20, 2019 23:51
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pork never goes bad posted:I really don't know how to feel about this league idea. I guess I just have to wait and see more gameplay which, like, ugh. The best parts of 3.7 weren't the Legion mechanics, so I'm not worried.
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Aug 20, 2019 23:55
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All my characters this league will be legion puns
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Aug 20, 2019 23:56
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I'm realizing that this league is probably gonna be sweet for hipster builds; the biggest challenge of unique-heavy builds is capping resistances, but the oils will probably let me snag a couple notables like Diamond Skin / Holy Dominion / Soul of Steel which fixes all that handily.
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Aug 21, 2019 00:01
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I think I like the league idea, but... WHERE THE gently caress IS MY RAIDER REWORK??????!!!!
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Aug 21, 2019 00:02
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I just wish they made minion AI not be poo poo. Like is that so much to ask? Having the minions attack the monsters instead of doing nothing would be nice.
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Aug 21, 2019 00:04
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I start necro 90% of the time so its good shes getting some extra love
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Aug 21, 2019 00:06
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Duck and Cover posted:I just wish they made minion AI not be poo poo. Like is that so much to ask? Having the minions attack the monsters instead of doing nothing would be nice. Didn't they basically say they did that via support gems? I assumed the gems would be worth using, e.g. gives damage too.
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Aug 21, 2019 00:19
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I was planning on modifying that Jousis heartbound loop build and use bladefall totems to take advantage of the 300% castspeed. Now I'm worried they'll change the one Necro passive it depends on... If they don't, though, that new dagger will be sweet.
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Aug 21, 2019 00:23
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500 good dogs posted:Didn't they basically say they did that via support gems? I assumed the gems would be worth using, e.g. gives damage too. Doing it via support gems is just about the worst way to fix the problem, because summoner builds notoriously are gem slot and action bar starved. Which either means they intentionally want the minion AI to be poo poo or cannot fix it because game is old.
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Aug 21, 2019 00:25
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Zero VGS posted:I'm realizing that this league is probably gonna be sweet for hipster builds; the biggest challenge of unique-heavy builds is capping resistances, but the oils will probably let me snag a couple notables like Diamond Skin / Holy Dominion / Soul of Steel which fixes all that handily. You can only get one of these; the announcement says you can get a notable on your amulet and tower buffs on your rings.
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Aug 21, 2019 00:25
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Duck and Cover posted:I just wish they made minion AI not be poo poo. Like is that so much to ask? Having the minions attack the monsters instead of doing nothing would be nice. They should have a consumable item that fixes minion AI, that you need to trade for.
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Aug 21, 2019 00:30
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