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If that episode is classist, then the whole show is. It's like the entire premise of the show summed up in one episode. Rich/intellectual white guys are out of touch, assume blue collar stuff is for simpletons, get clowned on, learn some lesson about humility that they forget before the next episode. It's also a painfully accurate depiction of someone who has a mental block against following instructions that aren't worded precisely correct, I can sadly attest. Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Aug 19, 2019 |
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b-b-b-but they passed notes in french!
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Aug 19, 2019 20:56
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food court bailiff posted:b-b-b-but they passed notes in french! Personal taste and all but I skip it when it comes up. Them being too cool to actually learn how poo poo works was just... meh
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Aug 20, 2019 03:44
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“too cool”? that’s what you took from that episode? Lmao
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Aug 20, 2019 15:21
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It's a reversal, dammit!
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Aug 20, 2019 15:27
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The joke is that they're the ones who voluntarily paid to go to the class so they're just wasting their own time and money just to roleplay as the high school slackers they never got to be as teenagers. As always, the joke is on the Crane brothers. It's a great episode.
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Aug 20, 2019 16:45
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BTW, Frasier Mii Fighter is voice Type 7 Low.
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Aug 20, 2019 17:07
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: FRASIER CRANE'S HUMONGOUS rear end CONTEST!
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Aug 20, 2019 20:00
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food court bailiff posted:counterpoint: it's a great episode, it does not come off as classist at all unless you have terminal internet poisoning
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Aug 20, 2019 22:45
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I for one found it really problematic how Frasier and Niles shot themselves in the foot and made complete fools of themselves by underestimating people with different skillsets ugh, and all the comedy was at the Crane brothers expense too, can you say.... cancelled?????
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Aug 20, 2019 22:47
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food court bailiff posted:“too cool”? that’s what you took from that episode? Lmao
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Aug 20, 2019 22:53
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I for one found it really problematic how Frasier and Niles shot themselves in the foot and made complete fools of themselves by underestimating people with different skillsets Well yes that is the joke, it's always been the joke that the entire show plays on. Why do you find this 'really problematic'?
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Aug 20, 2019 23:09
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I'm  on that one dude who found Motor Skills classistI mean it is classist, in the sense of portraying upper class folks as utter twits incapable of handling life outside their rarified air. 
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Aug 20, 2019 23:24
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Close the thread!!! Close it!!! We've lost the privilege. 
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Aug 21, 2019 04:32
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:I'm It's me, I am . Indeed you are not that one dude.I shall repair straight away to LE CIGAR VOLANT!
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Aug 21, 2019 07:38
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Looks like that's quite the gaffe!
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Aug 21, 2019 08:03
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Dear god!!
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Aug 21, 2019 08:04
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Twist and then pull
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Aug 21, 2019 08:13
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You have the BIG Mercedes?!
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Aug 21, 2019 11:58
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My Hot and Foamy must have exploded!
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Aug 21, 2019 13:36
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Solice Kirsk posted:My Hot and Foamy must have exploded! He used to be a detective!
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Aug 21, 2019 16:05
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WampaLord posted:He used to be a detective! One of the top 10 Daphne lines of the series.
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Aug 21, 2019 16:13
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sure
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Aug 21, 2019 16:53
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I'm not sure what to tell you if you don't think practically the whole drat series is predicated on class differences For gently caress's sake like the 4th or 5th episode has Martin directly calling out Frasier and Niles for making GBS threads on a normal restaurant
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Aug 21, 2019 17:53
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That episode is terrifying because of the symbolic socioeconomic castration of the silk ties.Not a Children posted:For gently caress's sake like the 4th or 5th episode has Martin directly calling out Frasier and Niles for making GBS threads on a normal restaurant Frasier is the weirdo that has season tickets to the opera but wears grimy sweats and goes to bars every now and then and can't fathom Golden Corral sized portions.
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Aug 21, 2019 18:10
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idk if its all about class differences i always got the impression it was more a "life is what you make it" situation and that frasier has a really hard time acknowledging that there isn't such a thing as the ubermensch it also helps that i was able to pinpoint early that nobody goes into psychology in the first place unless they desperately want to know what is wrong with their own self
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Aug 21, 2019 18:46
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It's a pretty basic 'cobbler's children have no shoes' joke but turns out to be completely accurate. Freddy has no chance of being remotely normal but seems to be making the best of it.
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Aug 21, 2019 19:02
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when you boil it down it's slobs vs snobs comedy which basically never goes out of style add in all the farce and incredible physical humor and you got yourself a laugh factory
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Aug 21, 2019 19:04
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FilthyImp posted:That episode is terrifying because of the symbolic socioeconomic castration of the silk ties. In fairness, good ties are expensive. I used to have to wear a suit five, sometimes six days a week in a past job (director of marketing at an upscale hotel), and if someone loving snipped one of my ties off without warning, I'd have gotten pissed as hell. That's the one bit of that episode that has always rubbed me the wrong way.
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Aug 21, 2019 20:33
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I've said this before and I'll say it again: the only thing that annoys me about that restaurant is that I want to eat at that restaurant and it is fictional.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:02
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That restaurant is Norms with a more Country Western theme.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:10
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I'm coming up to the final episodes of the show and I gotta say I am really enjoying the accidental Aaron Eckhart bromance.
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Aug 22, 2019 02:15
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screaden posted:I'm coming up to the final episodes of the show and I gotta say I am really enjoying the accidental Aaron Eckhart bromance. Season 11 is really, really solid and a nice return to form. Kelsey Grammer was pretty vocal about hating how "serious" seasons 9 and 10 got, and so the writing staff was switched up and they really worked to focus upon the humor of the show.
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Aug 22, 2019 13:53
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I've said this before and I'll say it again: the only thing that annoys me about that restaurant is that I want to eat at that restaurant and it is fictional. IIRC it came up before that IRL that restaurant probably got completely swamped by hipsters a few years later.
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Aug 22, 2019 13:59
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Timby posted:Season 11 is really, really solid and a nice return to form. Kelsey Grammer was pretty vocal about hating how "serious" seasons 9 and 10 got, and so the writing staff was switched up and they really worked to focus upon the humor of the show. Yet Season 11 season had Ronee, one of the worst guest characters.
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Aug 22, 2019 21:12
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The Experiment posted:Yet Season 11 season had Ronee, one of the worst guest characters. Yeah, she's awful, but she's only in like six episodes.
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Aug 22, 2019 21:34
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I don't find her aggressively awful, she's just kind of there.
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Aug 22, 2019 23:30
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A tragic misuse of Wendie Malick
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Aug 22, 2019 23:35
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Cam Winston's mom was Martin's one true soul mate. Just like Claire was Frasier's and Poppy was Niles'.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Cam Winston's mom was Martin's one true soul mate 
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