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I don't think Frank Miller and John Romita Jr's Superman Year One will become one of those classic re-telling of origins but it's pretty kooky and has some fun bits in it to say the least. If it had existed in the early 2010s, you could not have prevented Zack Snyder from putting all that stuff in Man Of Steel.
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So did they off Jessica Cruz? One way to get out of paying royalties to a Certain Someone, I suppose.
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Aug 22, 2019 00:09
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Yannick_B posted:I don't think Frank Miller and John Romita Jr's Superman Year One will become one of those classic re-telling of origins Weird is like the best descriptor I have for the book, it's not bad, it's not good but it's... bizarre.
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Aug 22, 2019 04:53
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Dawgstar posted:So did they off Jessica Cruz?  ), probably in the next issue or so. Like it seems like the villain has won and all hope is lost or whatever and then suddenly Jessica will be back and drop a horse on Darkseid or something.
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Aug 22, 2019 05:02
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BrianWilly posted:I haven't been following JL Odyssey too closely, but this seems like pretty clear case of a fake-out that they can easily walk back from (I mean that skeleton could've come from anywhere Look at the covers for the upcoming issues
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Aug 22, 2019 05:11
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Ah. See? There she is. With less horses than I expected, but still.
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Aug 22, 2019 05:17
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I can't get over how loving ugly Superman Year One is.
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I kinda loved it. The Atlantis thing is really bizarre and could/should have been an alternate origin for Aquaman instead, and Miller did absolutely get his rocks off shooting brown guys in their turbans for a few pages, but apart from some groaner lines, I thought the Terrence Malick-y poetic narration boxes really worked where they really didn't in the last issue. I think it's down to him not writing them from kid's POV this time. Also thought it had a good deal of fun Superman action for JRjr to draw (giant chunky monsters and lots of exploding rocks) as opposed to the none in issue 1. I'm behind fish fucker Clark.  edit: Ah. I had no idea Clark's mermaid girlfriend was a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Lemaris Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Aug 22, 2019 09:54
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BrianWilly posted:I haven't been following JL Odyssey too closely, but this seems like pretty clear case of a fake-out that they can easily walk back from (I mean that skeleton could've come from anywhere Which does go to prove how much actual attention CG pays to comics.
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Aug 22, 2019 12:03
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Teenage Fansub posted:I kinda loved it. The Atlantis thing is really bizarre and could/should have been an alternate origin for Aquaman instead, and Miller did absolutely get his rocks off shooting brown guys in their turbans for a few pages, but apart from some groaner lines, I thought the Terrence Malick-y poetic narration boxes really worked where they really didn't in the last issue. I think it's down to him not writing them from kid's POV this time. That there isn't an Elseworlds where Superman landed in Atlantis is a very missed opportunity.
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Aug 22, 2019 16:36
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Xelkelvos posted:That there isn't an Elseworlds where Superman landed in Atlantis is a very missed opportunity. I always thought the OG Lori Lemaris story made it clear what a good egg Superman was without any major hullabaloo. It never even occured to him to peek under Lori's blanket even when he was at the point of proposing.
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https://twitter.com/GWillowWilson/status/1164548921609224192
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Aug 22, 2019 20:50
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Will steve Orlando satisfy brianwillys bloodlust?
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That's too bad, but she did some good work and resolved a lot of things that needed to be resolved, so I'm putting her run squarely in the "w00t!" column. Now hopefully she just gets to resolve all of her own storylines in the book before she has to leave! Orlando's WW is generally pretty decent. I'm not looking forward to seeing Diana's ninth secret aunt that we never heard about until now (seriously what is with this character and people giving her secret family members) but I gladly trust him on the reigns again. For a while at least. edit: ^ 
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Aug 22, 2019 21:11
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It's kind of messed up how much space Miller dedicated to Jack Kirby wanting to gently caress mermaids, and then he doesn't even let Jack Kirby gently caress a mermaid.
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How’s everyone liking Jimmy Olsen? It’s not the greatest book, but the Superman scene was really good.
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Open Marriage Night posted:How’s everyone liking Jimmy Olsen? It’s not the greatest book, but the Superman scene was really good. It's honestly the best thing coming out of the Superman line right now. Not bogged down by Bendis's poo poo and generally capturing the whacky silver age hijinks really well. Also I really liked Superman and Jimmy's moment together, it had a genuine sincerity that worked well. I found her run exceedingly meh so I welcome a new writer anytime. I didn't read Orlando's fill in stuff that much but I really liked him on Midnighter and currently on Martian Manhunter so here's hoping for good stuff.
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So I'm mainly a Marvel guy, and the only thing I know Tom King from is his Vision series, which everyone seemed to love (including me). What happened? I haven't read his Batman but it seems to be hated by pretty much everyone. Is it worth taking a look if I liked Vision?
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Professor Dog posted:So I'm mainly a Marvel guy, and the only thing I know Tom King from is his Vision series, which everyone seemed to love (including me). What happened? I haven't read his Batman but it seems to be hated by pretty much everyone. Is it worth taking a look if I liked Vision? IMO, No. You're better off taking a look at Mister Miracle and possibly even Omega Men. There might be some standalone issues worth looking at, but on the whole it's not great.
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Yeah, pick up Mister Miracle, Omega Men and Sheriff of Babylon of some Vision-quality maxi series'. His first major job co-writing Grayson was really good too. I think Batman does actually have some of his strongest work peppered in there. The Batman/Elmer Fudd one-shot is a good stand-alone sample, as funny as that sounds. edit: Batman #23 is another good stand-alone teaming up with Swamp Thing. Then there's an Eisner winning short about Batman's dog in Annual #1. You used to be able to read that free online, but I can't find it now. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Aug 23, 2019 |
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Aug 23, 2019 13:00
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His Batman Annual #2 is great, as is the double-date story. What I'm saying is that Tom King should write rom-coms.
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Ya kinda need to be in on the whole Catwoman stuff for those issue to work. Worth it, though.
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Omega Men is great if you like a story about a CIA agent confessing to creating terrorists and regretting it a little, but what can you do.
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Professor Dog posted:So I'm mainly a Marvel guy, and the only thing I know Tom King from is his Vision series, which everyone seemed to love (including me). What happened? I haven't read his Batman but it seems to be hated by pretty much everyone. Is it worth taking a look if I liked Vision? I really like his Batman, but this thread in general doesn't. Give it a try.
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frameset posted:I really like his Batman, but this thread in general doesn't. Give it a try. The murder chase issue was incredible. BEEP BEEP
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I agree with whoever it was on the last page that says it has high highs and low lows, it's just that it's been on a low low for a while now.
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TwoPair posted:I agree with whoever it was on the last page that says it has high highs and low lows, it's just that it's been on a low low for a while now. The highs are (not surprisingly) the lighthearted stuff and the weirder one-off issues. The buildup to the wedding was also really fun, and I was still willing to give the book a chance even when it pulled the rug out from under us, since I assumed it was all leading up to something. Which it was - 50 issues of "batman dumb, bane smart, everyone sad because of bane". We're definitely in the lowest of the lows right now, it's just misery porn about how everything sucks and Batman's dumb as hell and his family hates him now and Captain Atom's a loving goober who got beat up to show how strong and badass the villain is. At least that part is pretty consistent with Captain Atom, I guess.
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A Fancy Hat posted:The highs are (not surprisingly) the lighthearted stuff and the weirder one-off issues. The buildup to the wedding was also really fun, and I was still willing to give the book a chance even when it pulled the rug out from under us, since I assumed it was all leading up to something. Which it was - 50 issues of "batman dumb, bane smart, everyone sad because of bane". Can't have the guy who was basically Dr. Manhattan with emotions actually be that powerful or show that off.
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A Fancy Hat posted:now and Captain Atom's a loving goober who got beat up to show how strong and badass the villain is. At least that part is pretty consistent with Captain Atom, I guess. Is there any hero as powerful or more that jobs more than Captain Atom? The closest one I can think of is Martian Manhunter.
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TwoPair posted:Is there any hero as powerful or more that jobs more than Captain Atom? The closest one I can think of is Martian Manhunter. Superman in the first season of Justice League (before it got the Unlimited added).
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The thing about Tom Kings Batman is that it really drags in some places like the lead up to the wedding and the events that are currently taking place; It feels like it knows where it wants to go but isn't sure how to get there. Also I'm not too big a fan of the faux poetic waxing that happens a lot but when it works, it works.
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I do remember how talked up The War of Jokes and Riddles was and it was just... fine? And told mostly through flashback if memory serves, so it was hard to feel super invested.
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the whole thing definitely suffers in retrospect when everything was built up leading to.... whatever the gently caress city of bane is
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Tom King's Batman feels like he had these big ideas for the "important" issue numbers like #50, #100, etc., but only had enough story for about ten issues in between them and has padded everything out with the most boring, miserable bullshit imaginable.
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Darth Nat posted:Tom King's Batman feels like he had these big ideas for the "important" issue numbers like #50, #100, etc., but only had enough story for about ten issues in between them and has padded everything out with the most boring, miserable bullshit imaginable. and if it's not miserable bullshit, it's full page single panels with a few textboxes with the intent to sound deep or profund but rarely gets up to intelligent.
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Parallax posted:the whole thing definitely suffers in retrospect when everything was built up leading to.... whatever the gently caress city of bane is A City of Bane, you see, is A City of Crime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT_QRKfv8H4 Batman #85 spoilers I assume this rap will be the full text of the issue.
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Professor Dog posted:So I'm mainly a Marvel guy, and the only thing I know Tom King from is his Vision series, which everyone seemed to love (including me). What happened? Even without that, I always thought his Batman got real overrated real quick, and the Bane stuff was the worst of it, and now it seems that "the Bane stuff" is going to be the capping climax of everything.
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It's like he went into a pitch meeting and said "What if I redo Knightfall but make it bad?"
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Edge & Christian posted:A City of Bane, you see, is A City of Crime I have never seen this before and my epstein brain can not handle it. Why have you done this E&C? It was at a manageable level.
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BrianWilly posted:now it seems that "the Bane stuff" is going to be the capping climax of everything. It's the climax one 'Batman' but I assume/hope BM/CW starts plotpoints fresh. Unless it's about grand crime master Kite Man. I'll take that.
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