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Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

super sweet best pal posted:

So what does Archive of Our Own do better than other fanfic sites?

As mentioned, the tagging system. Allows the importation of older fic archives instead of those stories being lost forever when the archive closes, which is usually server fees. Legal defence fund. A fannish next of kin system so if you die you can still give permission for podfic or, hell, just a note saying your WIP isn't going to be finished. A wiki for fanlore incase you want to know the history of slash. A peer reviewed academic journal. And other stuff I might have missed.

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Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007

Twincityhacker posted:

Speaking your story into the world makes your story exist inside other people besides yourself. So people are going to change the metaphorical carpret by just reading it and imaging what the charecters look like, let alone more radical interpretations of things.

Yeah, I know, there’s no getting around that sort of thing, and in theory people might even be able to add something worthwhile to a piece, like many published tie-in novels do. The problem is that fanfiction has no barrier to entry, and the community actively discourages real critique in favor of mindless praise for everything, which results in the vast majority of it being complete poo poo. I would welcome well-written and respectful spin-offs of my own work, but I know I’ll never be able to read those on some fanfic site.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Fan fiction writing should be used in the same way a spec script is used. A way to hone in your voice while bouncing off someone else's. It's a fun thing to do, but if that;'s all you're doing, your work will never get better.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

CelticPredator posted:

Fan fiction writing should be used in the same way a spec script is used. A way to hone in your voice while bouncing off someone else's. It's a fun thing to do, but if that;'s all you're doing, your work will never get better.

I beg to differ

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Meesa stando called crimson swords

Bakeneko posted:

The problem is that fanfiction has no barrier to entry
That's actually a feature.

Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

CelticPredator posted:

Fan fiction writing should be used in the same way a spec script is used. A way to hone in your voice while bouncing off someone else's. It's a fun thing to do, but if that;'s all you're doing, your work will never get better.

On the other hand, I've read some fanfic that are miles better than the things that often get published.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




I on the other hand have read such wild Lu Bu fanfiction that I'm shocked he hasn't been put into Smash, Tekken, Street Fighter or Kingdom Hearts by now.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Roth posted:

I beg to differ



This is the most amazing picture I've seen in weeks.

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

bartkira is a fanwork and it's one of the best things that exists in the world

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

poparena posted:

Oh man, George R.R. Martin was in the room when the ultimate fan fiction archive won a Hugo? I can feel the eye roll and annoyed sigh from here.

Anyway, new Nick Knacks for you, this time on Bananaman, the fruit-themed superhero cartoon voiced by The Goodies. Also, we've reached 1985, which means Nickelodeon getting bought by Viacom!

These are always a delight. Bananaman was one of those things that I remembered and yet have not thought of since it stopped airing on Nick, and apparently for good reason.

Can't wait for the next episode as I have absolutely not the foggiest idea of what it is.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

poparena posted:

Oh man, George R.R. Martin was in the room when the ultimate fan fiction archive won a Hugo? I can feel the eye roll and annoyed sigh from here.

Anyway, new Nick Knacks for you, this time on Bananaman, the fruit-themed superhero cartoon voiced by The Goodies. Also, we've reached 1985, which means Nickelodeon getting bought by Viacom!

gently caress yeah Bananaman! This was very important to me as a child in 80s Britain.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Bakeneko posted:

What’s next; are the Oscars going to start giving out awards to porn parody studios?

Lars von Trier has won 96 awards from various respected institutions

Roth posted:

I beg to differ



"Oh? You're approaching me?"

"Meesa can't kick yousa butt without getting up close."

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I have fondness for some fanfics I read back in the day, like the SBURB Glitch FAQ.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Arcsquad12 posted:

Wasn't that the case with the Half Life: Full Life Consequences guy?

Evidently that one is a classic and everyone should watch the Gmod series narrating it

:yeah:

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
The two best fanfic to ever exist are these two, obviously.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7583739/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Most-Electrifying-Man
https://archiveofourown.org/works/5457191

And you can use this to see a comparison as to how much better Ao3's layout is than ffnet's.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Bakeneko posted:

I guess I can understand why some people write fanfic, even though I hate the stuff, but why give it a Hugo? What’s next; are the Oscars going to start giving out awards to porn parody studios?


Bakeneko posted:

The problem is that fanfiction has no barrier to entry

my otp is your monocle/the flute of champagne you're sipping from when you read this thread

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
This has yet to be mentioned

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Leal posted:

This has yet to be mentioned



because it's been beaten to death several times over, and kinda stopped being as fun when it was revealed as a joke fic

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I refuse to believe that

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




LORD OF BOOTY posted:

because it's been beaten to death several times over, and kinda stopped being as fun when it was revealed as a joke fic

Oh no! This one's still real right?

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

Has it been revealed as a joke fic tho? Like I’m pretty sure that it is but everyone who’s come forward as the author has been found out to be lying.

Still even if it is a joke fic it’s still great, just like Doom: Repercussions of Evil and Half Life: Full Life Consequences

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Reportedly a third of the audience at the Hugo Awards stood up when AO3 asked everyone who has contributed to the site to stand and accept the award with them.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

watho posted:

Has it been revealed as a joke fic tho? Like I’m pretty sure that it is but everyone who’s come forward as the author has been found out to be lying.

I mean Rose Christo's claim is pretty much rock-solid unless you believe KiwiFarms about it

e:

Roth posted:

Reportedly a third of the audience at the Hugo Awards stood up when AO3 asked everyone who has contributed to the site to stand and accept the award with them.

well no loving wonder they won

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I mean Rose Christo's claim is pretty much rock-solid unless you believe KiwiFarms about it

Except for the fact that the publisher dropped her, she removed the tumblr she used to announce it, and a lot of things she claimed being sketchy at best. I’ve also seen some pretty compelling evidence for who actually wrote it so while I’d love for her to be speaking the truth just to spite KF I don’t really buy it

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Augus posted:

The best fanfic is still that one where Harry Potter saws Dobby in half with his literal chainsaw dick

mine is when luke and leia are loving and than chewie joins in after watching and they all cuck han and he kills himself while making GBS threads himself. than dash rendar shows up and avenges him through rape and murder. cause when i think star wars, i think of rape and pants making GBS threads.

or hell, don't even start with the MLP fanfiction. alot of it is out and out rape fiction.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Dapper_Swindler posted:

mine is when luke and leia are loving and than chewie joins in after watching and they all cuck han and he kills himself while making GBS threads himself. than dash rendar shows up and avenges him through rape and murder. cause when i think star wars, i think of rape and pants making GBS threads.

or hell, don't even start with the MLP fanfiction. alot of it is out and out rape fiction.

uh excuse me sir you seem to be under the impression that I was using the word “best” ironically

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

Not sure how many people here used to read the old PYF TVTropes thread from a while back (I know Jake Chapman did but he doesn’t post here anymore) but the only thing that truly broke that thread was a piece of MLP fanfic

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Augus posted:

uh excuse me sir you seem to be under the impression that I was using the word “best” ironically

lol. same. i find hosed up fanfiction genuinely funny. least sometimes. i think the one i talked about was intentionally a hosed up joke but idk.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

watho posted:

Not sure how many people here used to read the old PYF TVTropes thread from a while back (I know Jake Chapman did but he doesn’t post here anymore) but the only thing that truly broke that thread was a piece of MLP fanfic

what one was it?

Red Metal
Oct 23, 2012

Let me tell you about Homestuck

Fun Shoe
p. sure it was fallout equestria

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

No fallout equestria is fun bad, it was one where the MLP ponies were brought to life as sentient toy things and the stories were about people torturing them

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

MLP fan fiction is largely porn, weird rear end crossovers, wish fulfillment romance, and excuses to make dumb sex jokes about My Little Pony.

So yeah, pretty much like the entirety of fanfiction

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Dapper_Swindler posted:

what one was it?

Some Indiana Jones knockoff. I think it drove one of the SA members batty and she went full on gimmick after reading it.

Not even the Dozerfleet stories broke those threads as badly.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

watho posted:

Not sure how many people here used to read the old PYF TVTropes thread from a while back (I know Jake Chapman did but he doesn’t post here anymore) but the only thing that truly broke that thread was a piece of MLP fanfic

Tbh MLP broke a lot of people, whether in original or fanfiction form.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
aids

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

watho posted:

No fallout equestria is fun bad, it was one where the MLP ponies were brought to life as sentient toy things and the stories were about people torturing them

oh god, the fluffies or whatever. i have read some of those. where its basically them getting stomped to death or some poo poo. some of those can be sorta funny in a hosed up way but yeah pretty much.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
anyway, meaningless numbers ftw, but shaun's how prageru lies to u video got to 1 million. congraturate

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

oh god, the fluffies or whatever. i have read some of those. where its basically them getting stomped to death or some poo poo. some of those can be sorta funny in a hosed up way but yeah pretty much.

yeah that one “wan die” has been ingrained in my mind since then and discussion of it was completely banned from the thread

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Fallen Rib
There are no joke fanfics.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Yeah, the Fluffy Pony stuff was pretty heinous, but it's worth noting that it was basically a copy-paste of the 'yukkuri' stuff from Touhou fandom (a fascinating topic in its own right - it's basically a fandom that became its own artistic endeavour entirely separate from the game's it's based on), not some fresh, original brony perversion.

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