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For context, Hanif Bali, right-wing politician of Iranian heritage and alt-light twitter phenomenon, has spent years building up a fan base of edgelords by making quasi-racist bullshit posts and generally being an rear end in a top hat online. His party (the Moderates, historically the Big Right Wing Party in Swedish politics) has turned a blind eye since he has a vocal fanclub and riles up the left. He has now decided to very publicly have a no hold barred go at Carl Bildt (old right-wing political icon and the only person ever to be Assigned Cop At Birth) for his subservient attitude towards the Iranian regime. This is essentially biting the hand that feeds him, and the party has immediately 1. called him in for a stern talking to and 2. started talking about having party reps stay off twitter (they, there's always Gab, right?) I wonder if Bali falls back in line or if he really is looking to start a fight with the old guard.
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Bali is going to do whatever it takes to get in the My guess is he will fall in line for the time being and try to get attention some other way, and bide his time until he can take revenge on the olds. A dangerous man. ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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Aug 21, 2019 16:50
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yes yes thats all well and good but gently caress carl bildt
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Beeswax posted:For context, Hanif Bali, right-wing politician of Iranian heritage and alt-light twitter phenomenon, has spent years building up a fan base of edgelords by making quasi-racist bullshit posts and generally being an rear end in a top hat online. His party (the Moderates, historically the Big Right Wing Party in Swedish politics) has turned a blind eye since he has a vocal fanclub and riles up the left. Tldr: https://twitter.com/rymdadel/status/1164223420785188864
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Wild Horses posted:yes yes thats all well and good but gently caress carl bildt Well, Bali wasn’t wrong about Bildt though.
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Cardiac posted:Well, Bali wasn’t wrong about Bildt though. Broken clock etc. gently caress both of them forever.
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Aug 21, 2019 19:21
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Är det så konstigt att en iranier som bor här är uttalad om sin politiska åsikt och kritisk mot regimen? Ja han tjänar ju uppenbarligen på att jävlas med bildt .. men han förtjänar kritik
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The problem here as far as M views it is not that he made an anti-iran statement, they could give less of a gently caress. The problem is that when you come at the king, you best not miss. Ulf is only leader because Bildt didn't want it. If he'd challenge him, he'd be out. I think some of you would be surprised if you'd ever encounter how culty some of the upper echelon of the moderates in Stockholm are. Bali is part of a faction (spearheaded by Wykman) which are not part of that power circle. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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Aug 21, 2019 20:27
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i can appreciate trying to clean out the old guard, although it is stupid of him to do it so openly
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Reminder that Bali came to Sweden as a refugee child with his parents either being dead or drones for literal proscribed pseudo-marxist terror cult Mojahedin-e-Khalq
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Greenland is 88% inuit and votes overwhelmingly left. Make them a state.
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Eschenique posted:Greenland is 88% inuit and votes overwhelmingly left. Make them a state. have you taken into account the fact that the Greenlanders don't want to be a US state besides, would 55k people even make a difference in any US vote?
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Winklebottom posted:have you taken into account the fact that the Greenlanders don't want to be a US state senate
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Winklebottom posted:have you taken into account the fact that the Greenlanders don't want to be a US state No, because they’d likely go into weird protectorate limbo and have no actual say. Wyoming has 570k approx and has like 3 EC votes. They’d never get statehood, because they’re too “”””””ethnic””””””, and the whole “colonialism speedrun” of this hairbrained media stunt/expression of severely deteriorating mental illness.
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Winklebottom posted:have you taken into account the fact that the Greenlanders don't want to be a US state
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Retarded Goatee posted:Reminder that Bali came to Sweden as a refugee child with his parents either being dead or drones for literal proscribed pseudo-marxist terror cult Mojahedin-e-Khalq This is probably the main reason for it, things with Iran seems to be personal to him for pretty apparent reasons. Haven't he also been punished for voting against the party line with respect to the Armenian genocide? Which is further indications of personal issues trumping politics in a certain area. Also, having his car tires slashed in an obviously dangerous way puts some stress on you, I would say. The penalty for the whole DN/Oksanen thing was pretty much overblown, since as far as I have seen, zero evidence have been presented showing Russian interference.
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Aug 22, 2019 12:21
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It really is hilarious that he is getting taken down for pretty much the only correct thing he has ever written.
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Winklebottom posted:have you taken into account the fact that the Greenlanders don't want to be a US state  they'd never get statehood. It's be unincorporated territory all the way.
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Even if Greenland did somehow become a state only 56k people live there so by the time statehood had been achieved the US military would be permanently stationing 100k+ plus soldiers in Greenland for the on-going cold war with Russia about arctic resources. 2 Republican senators every time!
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MiddleOne posted:
Be fair. They'd become a state the moment the Inuit population had been thoroughly genocided and the US had moved enough psychotic republican voters there. e: Jammen for fanden. Seriøst? På samme tid? TLM3101 fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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TLM3101 posted:Be fair. They'd become a state the moment the Inuit population had been thoroughly genocided and the US had moved enough psychotic republican voters there. Flayer posted:Even if Greenland did somehow become a state only 56k people live there so by the time statehood had been achieved the US military would be permanently stationing 100k+ plus soldiers in Greenland for the on-going cold war with Russia about arctic resources. 2 Republican senators every time!
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Can't be, doesn't matter if they station 200k US troops there since convicted criminals aren't allowed to vote 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIN7nlNuQ0 That's one of the worst things I've ever seen. What language is that even supposed to be? It sounds like some Swedish attempt at high British but not even well educated fancy rich people talk like that. He sounds like chuds do when they rant on Flashback
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Henrik Jönsson is one of the dumbest people on Twitter. Take a moment and realize how much that says about him.
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Retarded Goatee posted:It really is hilarious that he is getting taken down for pretty much the only correct thing he has ever written.  ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Can't be, doesn't matter if they station 200k US troops there since convicted criminals aren't allowed to vote
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evil_bunnY posted:
T'was a bad joke about how american soldiers can only be recruited by judges threatening the convicted with prison otherwise. And that Florida takes away the democratic right to vote from ...  they gonna convict the Greenlanders aren't they 
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i cant wait to live under the automotive rule of the peoples front against more toll payments. they have one sentence about wanting to cancel a toll station in 2022 as their program in my county. and you bet they have a whole bunch of candidates running. they are polling 15% in some places 
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I suspect there will be a lot of right and center-right aligned one issue parties in the coming future. It correctly identifies non-voters as the most important voting block, and is a really good way to counter left-wing populism.
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they're irascible and mostly eating frp-ers and h-voters in bergen, they seem to have lost the bourgeois parties the election unless they can pull off a pretty peculiar coalition (they'd have to get both De Kristne and KrF, and there's tons of bad blood there + KrF are committed to bybanen). it would not surprise me if this is also the case in other cities single issue right-wing parties are OK by me. it fragments the right-wing bloc vote and weakens the ghouls in favour of weird factionalism
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i hate trym aafløy, but the dude is terrorising the government and making them look incredibly weak atm. the core ideological project of the right-wing parties just isn't that popular and the single-issuers really help expose that
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my new dog posted:i cant wait to live under the automotive rule of the peoples front against more toll payments. they have one sentence about wanting to cancel a toll station in 2022 as their program in my county. and you bet they have a whole bunch of candidates running. they are polling 15% in some places Welcome to Gothenburg politics for most of my lifetime.
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V. Illych L. posted:single issue right-wing parties are OK by me. it fragments the right-wing bloc vote and weakens the ghouls in favour of weird factionalism my faith that fragmenting the right-wing actually does anything has been thoroughly destroyed by venstre, krf and frp propping up Erna for so many years
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the right today have basically two (2) sane core arguments that rational, socially-minded people might accept: (1): "freedom of choice", a commitment to leaving people alone to live their lives without too much interference (2): cost efficiency, a commitment to getting the most out of each krone out of these two, the second is enormously much more powerful and difficult to deal with. basically one has to manage to deal with the base assumption that's popularised where private ownership is somehow more democratic than state ownership. this is on its way out anyway, but we really do need to engage with it and that's it! they have nothing else. they've got base xenophobia to rile up the racists, and they've got snobbish condescension which helps the petit-bourgeois swine imagine that they're somehow competent. they've also got issues like anti-politics (good luck keeping those fucks while in government) and toll roads and whatnot, but all of these things are basically accidental to their core project, and they're what actually gets them votes. steal that poo poo, and the bourgeois parties are as good as dead
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thotsky posted:my faith that fragmenting the right-wing actually does anything has been thoroughly destroyed by venstre, krf and frp propping up Erna for so many years V and Krf are dying, though, and at least V is going to die specifically because of this stupid loving government
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V. Illych L. posted:(2): cost efficiency, a commitment to getting the most out of each krone I just can't wrap my head around the argument that commercial kindergartens are more cost efficient when it's just a way to subsidize millionaires.
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Alhazred posted:I just can't wrap my head around the argument that commercial kindergartens are more cost efficient when it's just a way to subsidize millionaires. the idea is that the anbud is at least as cheap as administering the service publically. this is a strong argument that can and does sway reasonable people. it's also trivially true, but it obfuscates a lot of poo poo like service quality, the cost of the anbudsprosess itself, working conditions and the enormous loss of democratic control. the trick is to illustrate the drawbacks, because the basic argument in favour of competition really does hold up and is difficult to counter in the current ideological climate re: freedom of choice, i should probably rather say "a right to an easy life", because the main actual appeal of this policy is that all this stuff around me basically works and i don't rely too much on it, so surely we don't need *these rules*, *this red tape* etc. this is the segment which are literally willing to see people die so long as they can buy their liquorice pipes in shops so long as you don't phrase it in those terms V. Illych L. fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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Alhazred posted:I just can't wrap my head around the argument that commercial kindergartens are more cost efficient when it's just a way to subsidize millionaires. It's not just a way to subsidize millionaires. It does cut public spending, at least in the short term, because running it like a business (and maximizing profit) means a priority is to keep costs low. Sure, this will affect the quality of the service, but thotsky fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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