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SuperKlaus posted:The new Crab cards look atrocious. I'm sticking to the Scorpion side of arthropod supremacy for the foreseeable future (still pouring out that saké for Spyglass). FFG always seems to do a very different theme with their clan packs. I always expect "more of the same but better" and end up with an entirely new theme that usually doesn't seem to be quite as good and never gets fully fleshed out. There are a few exceptions where the new theme is viable but the meta doesn't always embrace it even when it happens. The Crab stuff is interesting though. Not sure how good it will be, the Stronghold is very non-meta in terms of economic tempo from passing so it's probably going to take a bit for it to breakthrough.
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Actually, I want to say I think the Kaiu daimyo is great. Tutor for Karada District and Storehouses and whatnot. The stronghold trying to get around having too many holdings by fishing for guys in a deck that's defined as having too many holdings...iunno.
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SuperKlaus posted:Actually, I want to say I think the Kaiu daimyo is great. Tutor for Karada District and Storehouses and whatnot. The stronghold trying to get around having too many holdings by fishing for guys in a deck that's defined as having too many holdings...iunno. For sure, tutoring effects are great even if what you tutor for isn't. Unfortunately, as seen with the Poisoner, having it on a dynasty character is a bit slow. I think this mechanic will work good for Crab though as you can keep her around long enough to get good use out of that effect. One thing I miss about AEG's card design is that they really did crazy poo poo with their strongholds that felt quite different. I know old players will remember how busted Khol Wall was drat if that wasn't wildly different from everything else going on. This is different but still reigned in a bit too much.
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Jul 31, 2019 19:36
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Shihobu is insane
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Aug 2, 2019 23:21
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Which one is that? I'm drawing a blank.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:18
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Lol and here I was just talking about her.
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Aug 8, 2019 21:15
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wanna see the consistency maximization deck where you put 30 holdings in your deck just so you can remove them
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Aug 8, 2019 21:27
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How do I get good at the card game, I keep getting owned when I play
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Aug 17, 2019 08:37
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https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/8/16/path-of-the-waves/ New sourcebook is going to focus on ronin, peasants, and gaijin. I'm hoping that it's not Kolat heavy.
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SunAndSpring posted:How do I get good at the card game, I keep getting owned when I play Play more and do some reading. Not getting owned boils down to knowing what you’re capable of and more importantly knowing what your opponent is capable of. For example: Don’t leave just one expensive character on your side of the table vs crab because of Way of the Crab. Know what the requirements for the various cancels are. That said, what are you playing as? What are you losing to?
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Also don't play bottom tier if you're bad. If you're new to the game I recommend Dragon. They're very straight forward, strong and will give you a good grasp of how to value characters. They play very well with a Crab splash as The Mountain Does Not Fall and Reprieve are both great inclusions. They can also run out of Keeper of Water which makes Fight On a strong inclusion as well. Unicorn and Scorpion are both a bit tricky to learn when you're just starting out, Crane is pretty straightfoward with bully duels these days but there's some control elements that are tough to know how to us. Phoenix has a strong deck that's going to get nerfed to hell very soon so I don't recommend picking up a decklist of theirs right now. Lion is...bad.
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PaybackJack posted:Also don't play bottom tier if you're bad. If you're new to the game I recommend Dragon. Dragon is currently the bottom tier, so this is contradictory. But there isn't really a "beginner" clan, just play what you want to focus on and get good with it.
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Aug 19, 2019 16:06
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Kaza42 posted:Dragon is currently the bottom tier, so this is contradictory. But there isn't really a "beginner" clan, just play what you want to focus on and get good with it. Crane and Phoenix are top 2 but Dragon isn't doing too badly. There was a Dragon in the top 8 at Gencon and a bunch of their hatamotos were playing Phoenix. Dragon, Crab, Scorpion and Unicorn are all pretty equal I think. And with the nerfs that are coming I don't think Dragon will be doing bad at all. Lion still needs a ton of help, so they're definitely the bottom which their clan pack doesn't look like it will change.
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Sir Mopalot posted:https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/8/16/path-of-the-waves/ Oh that’s cool. I’ve been recently working through Clavell’s Asian cycle and was contemplating running a game in a Rokugan more in line with Japan’s unique feudalism and societal pressures. Plus peasants and foreigners are an area typically underserved in previous editions.
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I am super glad the lower classes and foreigners are the focus of the next book. The fact that there are more than like two foreigners in the empire is one of the things I like the most about the new edition.
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Yeah, having more explicitly foreign (non-Japanese) influences is a good thing, within reason. It's cool to have support for weirder character options, and if you're super groggy and don't like those weirder options then you can just not allow them in your game. Problem solved. On a vaguely related note, I still think that giving your fantasy-Japan setting's Satan a Chinese name has really bad optics, but I understand that's 90s AEG's fault not FFG's, and I also am very well aware that RPG nerds lose their loving minds when you start changing or removing sacred cows, even ones that are in desperate need of culling (see: D&D 4E).
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Aug 19, 2019 22:11
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It definitely is bad optics, but yeah, there's really not a lot to be done about that. (Or some of the other really dumb holdovers.) I am looking forward to the game letting me play Toku his own self, tho, given the direction the plot is heading.
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Aug 19, 2019 22:16
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How many other prominent characters had Chinese names, or just non-Japanese names besides Unicorns and actual foreigners? The only other Chinese named characters I can think of are the smith who forged the celestial swords and his son, and I'm not sure how "prominent" that even counts as.
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Mors Rattus posted:It definitely is bad optics, but yeah, there's really not a lot to be done about that. (Or some of the other really dumb holdovers.) Well there the whole thing about Heimin too, it's not a great look to use a word that's modern derogatory slang for a class of people in your game and then miss-translate the word and make it even more insulting. Then there were the Yobanjin, who started out as a representation of the indigenous peoples of Hokkaido and Okinawa but randomly became Korean at some point.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I am super glad the lower classes and foreigners are the focus of the next book. The fact that there are more than like two foreigners in the empire is one of the things I like the most about the new edition. From the mouth of Wick all of the shadowlands were supposed to represent corrupting Western influence. Not the best or most nuanced take, but it helps to understand the original intent.
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PJOmega posted:From the mouth of Wick all of the shadowlands were supposed to represent corrupting Western influence. That doesn't even make sense! The corrupting western influence of eating people and blood magic?
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Aug 22, 2019 06:14
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"Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood" sounds like something a Western missionary would say. 
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PJOmega posted:From the mouth of Wick all of the shadowlands were supposed to represent corrupting Western influence. Blockhouse posted:That doesn't even make sense! The corrupting western influence of eating people and blood magic? I can think of at least 3 ways that doesn’t make any sense and know barely anything about l5r
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also, y'know, the creatures of the Shadowlands are led by the oni and their dark lord with the one Chinese name in the setting's major characters
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Mors Rattus posted:also, y'know, the creatures of the Shadowlands are led by the oni and their dark lord with the one Chinese name in the setting's major characters China IS west of Japan, after all.
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The latest story is pretty crazy. It's too bad they don't put out the fiction a bit quicker, feels like the Emperor has been dead for months and we're still dealing with the night of it happening. I didn't like it though in the sense that Kachiko would have let the prince roam around unattended, let alone commit seppuku; he's her meal ticket so she'd people watching him. Even though it feels like they're leaving some out for the Scorpion to not look like blunderers, there's still a few too many mistakes. I did like that they kind of showed Daisetsu as being a bit of a dick, and possibly corrupt. The Yogo twist is a neat call back as well, I don't remember if that was mentioned before or not. SpaceViking posted:China IS west of Japan, after all. Since this game is born of weeaboo fantasy it's not particularly surprising that not-Japan Asia is poorly represented. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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China is just kind of not even present, going west you just sort of jump straight into the Not-Gobi Desert, Not- Mongolia and then the ...Not-Middle East? Where you meet the...checks papers... Not-Egyptians and Not-Romans?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:China is just kind of not even present, going west you just sort of jump straight into the Not-Gobi Desert, Not- Mongolia and then the ...Not-Middle East? Where you meet the...checks papers... Not-Egyptians and Not-Romans? No, the not-egyptians and not-romans are on the other side of the not-middle east. The not-middle east is the caliphate, currently ruled by an immortal sorcerer queen, unless that's been changed. Also if you take a left turn just after not mongolia you end up in not-india.
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The status of the Immortal Caliph is currently unknown. We know the city/nation's name got changed, tho.
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Littlefinger posted:"Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood" sounds like something a Western missionary would say. Fu Leng be with you. And also with you.
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WerrWaaa posted:Fu Leng be with you. No, since Day of Thunder 2 it's "And with your spirit"
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Sir Mopalot posted:No, since Day of Thunder 2 it's "And with your spirit" Sorry I'm a Hanteisedavancantist
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Someone on reddit posted the reference sheets they made for their playgroup. It includes a streamlined table of general uses for opportunity https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-1LBhOoFqXAYkpnqCPMMnUKaOLz42hEn/view Ruzihm fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Aug 24, 2019 |
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PJOmega posted:From the mouth of Wick all of the shadowlands were supposed to represent corrupting Western influence. That's real stupid and yet it makes me feel good about revising the Crab in my home games to be 75% about repelling gaijin and only 25% forever war with hell.
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Echo Birb is the terror of the meta for the moment and it seems half the field has gone Earth role to get Earth Becomes Sky - think it's Yogo Kikuyo the spell-hatin' Scorpion's time to shine?
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Every week Courts of Stone fails to be released in PDF I put on my kimono, go out into my garden, and scream at the uncaring sky.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Every week Courts of Stone fails to be released in PDF I put on my kimono, go out into my garden, and scream at the uncaring sky.
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SuperKlaus posted:Echo Birb is the terror of the meta for the moment and it seems half the field has gone Earth role to get Earth Becomes Sky - think it's Yogo Kikuyo the spell-hatin' Scorpion's time to shine? Echo Birb did well at Gencon, and then the meta adjusted and they fell flat at Krakow. EBS is the new hotness, but Kikuyo is a poor answer to it. She only works during conflicts, and EBS shines during Regroup
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Ohhh nuts I forgot she can't answer it during regroup. What are the counters to Echo Birb?
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