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Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
finally, the cattlemaster has some competition.

shame the Suburban Commando never took off.

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Prefect Six
Mar 27, 2009

Last night on the end of campaign stream they said they are slowly working towards having all their sourcebooks PoD, so that's pretty cool.

DarkAvenger211
Jun 29, 2011

Damnit Steve, you know I'm a sucker for Back to the Future references.
Hey I got a question for you guys, I picked up this box at my local game store recently:

https://www.amazon.com/Battletech-Game-of-Armored-Combat/dp/B07MCYLBCR

It contains cards for the alpha strike rules, but nowhere in the box does it actually contain the alpha strike rules. Is this intentional? Or am I supposed to be able to use these cards regardless?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
I've got a copy waiting for me at home, funnily enough, from CGL directly. Will let you know if I also have any Alpha Strike cards inside.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

DarkAvenger211 posted:

Hey I got a question for you guys, I picked up this box at my local game store recently:

https://www.amazon.com/Battletech-Game-of-Armored-Combat/dp/B07MCYLBCR

It contains cards for the alpha strike rules, but nowhere in the box does it actually contain the alpha strike rules. Is this intentional? Or am I supposed to be able to use these cards regardless?

Got Alpha Strike cards in mine, probably about 16, but haven't opened em yet.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

DarkAvenger211 posted:

It contains cards for the alpha strike rules, but nowhere in the box does it actually contain the alpha strike rules. Is this intentional? Or am I supposed to be able to use these cards regardless?

The box contains the basic rules for standard play with normal record sheets for each 'Mech in the box (plus a few), and alpha strike cards as a bonus for the people who play Alpha Strike.

No BattleTech box set (with the exception of BattleSpace?) has ever, to my knowledge, contained the full rulebook. There isn't a 'basic' version of Alpha Strike, a lot of Alpha Strike is balanced around using special pilot abilities, lance combos, and special command abilities to modify the way individual units play.


VV Ah, so I was mistaken. I can't imagine Alpha Strike quickstart being any more than a page or two.

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Aug 21, 2019

TacoNight
Feb 18, 2011

Stop, hey, what's that sound?
There are the quick start alpha strike rules available for download.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

They've given out Alpha Strike cards as promotional items a bunch of times so they're probably in the box for that reason.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
I honestly can't remember if I asked this already: if Alpha Strike has all or nothing to-hit rolls isn't it incredibly swingy?

Airspace
Nov 5, 2010

PoptartsNinja posted:

(with the exception of BattleSpace?)


BattleSpace had the full rulebook, just to confirm. The full manual was half the size of the typical Battletech rulebook, which may explain why it did.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

General Battuta posted:

I honestly can't remember if I asked this already: if Alpha Strike has all or nothing to-hit rolls isn't it incredibly swingy?

Per unit? Yes. Across an entire force? It tends to even out. The basic unit of organization in Alpha Strike isn't a single mech, it's a lance. That analogy extends to combat, too.

In that sense it's swingy in the same way as, say, an AC/20. A miss with your big gun feels bad; it shouldn't be your only gun.

R0ckfish
Nov 18, 2013
I finished up the other half of the starter box:

I am not too fond of the accent colours for the marik militia so I was a bit conservative with them, no clue how well that works lore wise.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Looking good; really like the cockpits!



I'm gonna use these as my inspiration





Unless I play it straight with some Ice Hellion stuff.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Strobe posted:

In that sense it's swingy in the same way as, say, an AC/20. A miss with your big gun feels bad; it shouldn't be your only gun.

This is an extremely dangerous and unsavory mindset to spread around the community. Hollander owns. Coolest and stupidest looking Mech.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
I read that the new commanders edition has option rules for rolling a hit for each point of damaged in a unit. Apparently it feels a bit more like the classic rules and is less swingy

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

BULBASAUR posted:

I read that the new commanders edition has option rules for rolling a hit for each point of damaged in a unit. Apparently it feels a bit more like the classic rules and is less swingy

It also completely fucks the game by making big beatsticks with lots of damage good against literally everything. I hate it. There's no reason to ever take anything that does less than 7 points of damage because you can just switch targets mid-attack with only a trivial penalty and ensure that no damage is ever wasted.

DrPop
Aug 22, 2004


Battletech is most memorable (maybe, maybe not "best") when it's swingy. Regular CBT is swingy as hell and I love it.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
Ran across this in a facebook group.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Boomers are the worst

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

Strobe posted:

It also completely fucks the game by making big beatsticks with lots of damage good against literally everything. I hate it. There's no reason to ever take anything that does less than 7 points of damage because you can just switch targets mid-attack with only a trivial penalty and ensure that no damage is ever wasted.

So it sounds like a buff to clan players, who apparently usually loose anyway in AS. Perfect :getin:

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Ran across this in a facebook group.



Welp, I've changed my opinion on Clans now. They're cool and good.

Darius099
Dec 18, 2005

Ogion went on a halfmile or so, and said at last, 'To hear, one must be silent'.
Also hate clans and am happily ready to declare batchall just to piss off shitlords. I think it's always been an issue with Battletech since it attracts the worst sort of "old school" or "grognard" people.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Ran across this in a facebook group.



need to wear a CLAN FREE ZONE shirt to my next meetup

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
thinking about a part of one of the jihad books where some clanners are talking over their special HPG chatroom and then some rando teenager stumbles in issuing batchalls before promptly being kicked.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Drone posted:

Welp, I've changed my opinion on Clans now. They're cool and good.

TBH I see poo poo like this more from people bagging on the Jihad or DA.

I mean, gently caress. DA was like 15 years ago at this point.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Ran across this in a facebook group.



Certainly no scantily clad clanners. Nope nope nope.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

Taerkar posted:

Certainly no scantily clad clanners. Nope nope nope.

They know there's no way those warriors would conceive a freebirth with any of them, even in their dreams.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Locust side template


Locust side camo idea - Ice Hellions



Thoughts/Comments? Its not final but you get the general idea.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
It breaks up the outline, so it would work as a traditional camouflage. The only thing I'd be careful of is to avoid having the cockpit be the same color as other, otherwise unimportant parts of your mini.

In BattleTech terms, I tend to do camo/unit scheme on mooooost of the mini, and then the obvious joints and gun barrels get a traditional metallic, usually gunmetal, because it helps draw attention to them.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Kinda unsure how ill do the cockpit but will see how i go about that. Maybe go with a dark green or darker blue.

And yeah, I'm thinking of having the guns be a sort of half-camo, half-gunmetal/burnt effect

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Kinda unsure how ill do the cockpit but will see how i go about that. Maybe go with a dark green or darker blue.

And yeah, I'm thinking of having the guns be a sort of half-camo, half-gunmetal/burnt effect

If you leave orange off of the actual camo portion of the scheme it'd be an excellent contrast color against the main body. Are you going for the Alpha Galaxy look?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Strobe posted:

If you leave orange off of the actual camo portion of the scheme it'd be an excellent contrast color against the main body. Are you going for the Alpha Galaxy look?



I basically just looked at whatever Ice Hellions had in common, generally, for camo. I just remember that theres one "Galaxy" that had a desert or non-blue theme and thats about it haha

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Jobbo_Fett posted:

Locust side template


Locust side camo idea - Ice Hellions



Thoughts/Comments? Its not final but you get the general idea.

Hell yeah, glad to see someone else is planning on doing the best and stupidest Clan.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I made a poster for the Intro to Battletech I'm hosting this week

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Dope

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Dude that's sick

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Aw poo poo I'm in Brooklyn. Now I kinda want to go.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Should I send it to CGS as fanart?

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

General Battuta posted:

Aw poo poo I'm in Brooklyn. Now I kinda want to go.

Dude go. If you’re not a Carcosa Club member it’s literally only ten bucks and I can cover that no problem, it’s Friday @ 7 at the Carcosa Club in Williamsburg.

Edit: if you’ve never been it’s actually free for your first visit, so don’t even worry about that.

Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Sep 11, 2019

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Sorry for 3x posting I like to get new Battletech players but you wouldn’t have to bring anything as a newbie or a veteran

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