Wacky Delly posted:

That Ryzen doesn't have a GPU built in. You'll need to carry over one or bite the bullet and get one.

DJ Dizzy posted:

Seeing as 1xfemale -> 2xmale headset adapters are breaking on me all the time, I figured it was a good time to get an external mic. What's a decent budget-friendly one?

Azuren posted:

Putting together a new rig in the next couple days and I'm wondering how to best set up the fans. Case is a Meshify S2, mobo is an MSI x570-A PRO, case fans will be 5x of the 140mm fractal design x2 gp-14 fans the case comes with (I bought two more, so they'd all match), going to set 3 in the front as intake, 1 rear exhaust, 1 top rear as exhaust. Wondering how to plug everything in... Motherboard has 4x PWM plugs, case comes with a fan controller, which has 3x PWM plugs and 6x non-PWM.

Azuren posted:

Putting together a new rig in the next couple days and I'm wondering how to best set up the fans. Case is a Meshify S2, mobo is an MSI x570-A PRO, case fans will be 5x of the 140mm fractal design x2 gp-14 fans the case comes with (I bought two more, so they'd all match), going to set 3 in the front as intake, 1 rear exhaust, 1 top rear as exhaust. Wondering how to plug everything in... Motherboard has 4x PWM plugs, case comes with a fan controller, which has 3x PWM plugs and 6x non-PWM.

Are there any advantages to not using the PWM connections? My first thought was plug them all into PWM plugs via a combination of the mobo and the fan controller, and let the mobo do whatever it wants. My second thought was that if they aren't plugged into PWM, and they'd be running full blast all the time, I'd be ok with trading better cooling for a bit more noise, since I've never had a super quiet PC and it wouldn't bug me, as long as that doesn't shorten the lifespan of the fan (I think I read it's starting and stopping that wears them out, rather than just maintaining a speed?). So, I was thinking of just plugging all the case fans into the non-PWM ports on the fan controller, and plugging that fan controller into the mobo... but then my third thought is that if all the mobo connectors are PWM, isn't it going to be PWM no matter what, so it really doesn't matter? Aware I'm totally overthinking this, just looking for some guidance.

Sininu posted:

Any way to control PWM fans inside Windows? Asus B450 Strix mobo.

Stickman posted:

Asus' AI Suite 3 software should let you do that. You could also try Speedfan, but it hasn't been updated in a while so doesn't work with most new motherboards. Argus Monitor does usually work, but requires purchasing yearly (or 3-year) license.

Azuren posted:

Appreciate the quick responses! Yup, just opened up the box on one of the fans and they are indeed 3-pin. So if I plug all 5 into the controller, and the controller into the mobo, and they're all running at 100%, I'd be fine with that. I just wanted them all to be consistent, so they aren't spinning up and spinning down separately.

Fantastisk posted:

I got some advice here earlier, but wanted to wait a bit before ordering my parts - and now I think I'm ready! I'd just like one final check before I commit:

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The only difference is that the video card I'm looking at is a 1660, not a 1660 Ti. Does it look okay? Also note that I live in Norway, so good deals on better versions of parts may not apply.

Stickman posted:

Looks good! If the MSi B450-A Pro is available for cheaper than the Tomahawk, you might want to consider it. The only differences are a slightly less efficient VRM heatsink (so it's only recommended for up to a 3900x, while a Tomahawk could marginally run a 3950x) and 2xType A USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports instead of the Tomahawk's 1xType A and 1xType C. In the US it's usually significantly cheaper, but not sure about Norway.

There are a few 1660 and 1660 Ti models without zero-fan idle so if that matters to you, you'll want to double-check. The Asus Dual has zero-RPM idle, so if you're getting the equivalent 1660 you're set!

E: The sx8200 Pro is an excellent NVMe drive, but it's also not a significant gaming performance boost over other NVMe drives. If you can find other NVMe drives for cheaper (i.e. Phison E12-based drives like the Sabrent Rocket) then it might not be worth the premium and you'd be better off using the difference to upgrade to a 1660 Ti or 5700.

Schadenboner posted:

So I'm at a "pre-build" stage and I haven't built a PC in like 10 or 15 years and the world where AMD is good and I have to learn other names for things makes me .

I'm looking for a 1080/light-1440 card and what I'm generally reading is that at full price (~230) the RX590 isn't better-enough than the 580 (~185) to be worth it. But I'm seeing a few RX590s that look to be normal on Amazon for like 200 or 205.

Is there something significantly different about these 590s to make them 30 bucks cheaper than the other 590s? When the price differential is 15 or 20 bucks rather than 45 is the 590 worth getting?

Fantastisk posted:

The B450-A Pro isn't all that much cheaper than the Tomahawk for the Max version, and even though it seems to be simple enough to update the BIOS on a regular version (as far as I can see, that's the only difference, right?), I feel more comfortable getting something that will work out of the box. Also, it's not in stock yet!

It's the 1660 version of the Asus Dual, yes!

The Intel 660p is a bit cheaper than the sx8200 Pro, is that a good choice?

Fantastisk posted:

The Intel 660p is a bit cheaper than the sx8200 Pro, is that a good choice?

Schadenboner posted:

So my original plan was to get an XBOX-HUEG PC and do home lab stuff on it but I discovered my lovely masters program gives me a lot more free Azure than is usual and I've decided to build my lab in that (which will itself be a learning opportunity). So I'm just looking for a basic gaming "rig" (as the kids say these days).

What country are you in? land.
What are you using the system for? 1080 or light-1440 Gaming, school, connecting to Azure (but that's just web browsing really, not very intensive), shitposting.
What's your budget? I have a W10 license but other than that assume I have nothing (keyboard, mouse, monitor) other than a set of crappy earbuds and a set of crappy speakers. Budget is as close to 780 as possible.

I'm af about online merchants so I've kept this to Amazon-only. I also have a morbid fear of power supplies other than Corsair?

I'm going to get a non-potato 1440 monitor eventually, and I can chuck SATA SSDs in as necessary, the 500GB NVMe is really just to get started. Probably throw a bunch of Noctua fans in the case if temperatures become a problem.

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E: The 1660 is a good card but it's 30 bucks more than what I can get a 590 for and doesn't seem to be much different performance-wise.

ItBreathes posted:

Yeah, but the 590 uses 1/4 to 1/3 more power to get there, and the 1660 has been available on sale recently, it just takes a bit of hunting.

I'd get a 580 over a 590 any day of the week, they're a good bit cheaper and should perform the same once OC'd accordingly as it's the same chip. On that note, at your budget is just get a 570, put the savings to a 2600 or 3600 and buy a stronger GPU when you've got the cash. A 570 8gb will do 1080p60 with maybe some fiddling, and can be had for $120 worst case with whatever promotional game(s) they're offering today. Not sure how it will perform at 1440 as people only do ultra tests, but overall 1440 on an $800 isn't very realistic without making other compromises that are harder to upgrade. And the fact that the recommended 1440p144 monitor is $400 by itself.

hambeet posted:

Found my old Core 2 Duo E8400 in the bottom of a box, still working a few weeks later.

I was probably only imagining the lights dimming when I turned it on. I'm not looking forward to the power bill next month.

orange juche posted:

I mean it was only a 65w TDP processor, it doesn't use more power than any modern processor except perhaps something in a laptop, but what power it does use doesn't get nearly the level of performance of modern processors.

kcer posted:

in the context of GPUs, is it a bit dumb to shoehorn a x570 for pci 4.0 into a build for someone who isn't a bleeding edge enthusiast? am i right in thinking there's only a couple cards than can currently saturate pci 3.0 at x8?

i think x470 is a bit more sensible, anything else to consider?

Schadenboner posted:

Dropping to a 570 and swapping the 500GB SN500 for the 1TB 660P makes it 801. So that's probably about what I'm looking at. That's probably enough to play Inquisitor and Mechanicus and FO4 at 1080, right?

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ItBreathes posted:

Having trouble finding benchmarks for those games. A 570 is a 580 with 10% of it's GPU cores cut out and performs accordingly. It's not a max everything card, but in terms of frames-per-dollar it stands alone, and should hit 60fps at the appropriate settings.

Protocol7 posted:

I’m not sacrificing much by getting a discounted 2XXX series Ryzen compared to a 3XXX right?

Newegg has a deal on the 7 2700X and I think I might pick it up (buy a part a paycheck kind of deal). I was gonna get the 5 3600 but I think the 7 2700X is better, especially since you can OC it, right?

I figure getting a better CPU is important if I’m pairing it with a 2080.

ItBreathes posted:

Short answer is it depends. The 2700 has 2 more cores than the 3600, if you can use them it's a good pickup. Otoh, the cores in the 3600 are 10-15% more powerful. In terms of raw fps the 3600 is a better choice, but if you're going to be GPU limited before that the 2700 has other things to offer (better multitasking, minimum frame times, rendering of that's your bag). Gamers Nexus charts.