Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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One in the Bum: Apr 25, 2014; Hair Elf

Tsed posted:

Who knows what "a lot of credits" means for these things, ofc.

It means they haven't decided yet and are going to see how much players grind in anticipation of buying one when they release.

e:

One in the Bum fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Aug 23, 2019

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Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

The Titanic posted:

Good to know Star Citizen is still in a neck and neck battle against what is now effectively an old game, where even the original studio that built it has already built two other whole, entire, award winning games.

Uh... good job guys. I bet Star Citizen is totally gonna come out and really show Elite Dangerous who's boss, 6 or so years later.

I for one can't wait to experience their whole 2 or 3 star systems or something eventually?

I think it will be Frontier's 4th released game after ED. There's Planet Coaster, the Jurassic World Evolution, some Lost Winds platforming game from 2016 (though I had never heard of that last one until now) and soon that Planet Zoo thing.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 07:25

One in the Bum: Apr 25, 2014; Hair Elf

Bofast posted:

I think it will be Frontier's 4th released game after ED. There's Planet Coaster, the Jurassic World Evolution, some Lost Winds platforming game from 2016 (though I had never heard of that last one until now) and soon that Planet Zoo thing.

Not to mention future unannounced titles Elite Dangerous 2: The Dangerring, Game Dev Simulator: a VR Experience with expansions No There's Actually Not That Much to Understand and Fidelity

# ? Aug 23, 2019 07:38

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Scruffpuff posted:

I have been worried about that very thing myself. Sadly, this was the fate of SOTA. That said, there are some things that might help keep this just on the side of funny:

1) Garriott was a beloved icon and actually did the work he claims credit for, and gives credit to people who did the work he didn't. I was lucky enough to meet and talk with him about this and that, and I still consider it a privilege despite the recent turn to ... whatever happened. He's always been gracious (although let's say eccentric) and he still is. He deserves the credit for his successes and he keeps that distinction no matter what's happened since then. That makes this sad.

2) Chris is an arrogant blowhard whose ideas are, on the surface, absolutely idiotic. They're idiotic under the surface, too. He took full credit for absolutely everything done in a 5-mile radius of his body, and has obfuscated his actual functions so completely that decades later nobody is really sure who made Wing Commander outside of the cutscene dialog and that one blue pixel. He fucks over everyone he works with, and with such regularity even Metamucil has cause to be jealous. That makes his failure funny.

3) The backers are where we have a tie. There's a mix of that Kazans and such that deserve everything they're getting and so much more, but sprinkled among them are people who genuinely appear to have deep-seated issues and will be very considerably and directly hurt by what's coming. Being too stupid to avoid being scammed doesn't mean they deserve to be scammed - intelligence isn't always a virtue, I know lots of kind dumb people. I'll take them as friends over a smart prick any day. That makes Star Citizen funny AND sad.

I think the Hollywood term for what's coming is "bittersweet."

At some point ending this project really will be a kind of mercy, even if it's only for the poor devs who keep having to make and remake things because they happened to apply for a job under Chris Roberts.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 08:55

Mu77ley: Oct 14, 2016

Rotten Red Rod posted:

The FIRST thing they absolutely have to get right in a space combat game, the combat, is completely broken and getting worse, yet people continue to throw money at CIG. I just. Don't. Get. It.

But.... you can walk around!!!!

# ? Aug 23, 2019 09:39

Beexoffel: Oct 4, 2015; Herald of the Stimpire

Carriers are coming!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNj97HznUU
(In Elite: Dangerous.)
(Derek's valor; found this on his forum.)

# ? Aug 23, 2019 09:40

Chocobo: Oct 15, 2012; Here comes a new challenger!; Oven Wrangler

Elite Dangerous built its game and universe from the bottom up, and are expanding and polishing it into an actual somewhat enjoyable game. They're putting out a massive multiplayer carrier, and they're releasing it to people who own the base game. They're not even trying to milk expansion purchases out of it. It's amazing what a company can do when it has a healthy revenue stream and a realistic business model.

This is being announced alongside of Star Citizen's 1000$ "carrier" that doesn't even have a functional hangar that is being implemented in a game with one star system devoid of any meaningful gameplay.

Good job, Frontier.

Chocobo fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Aug 23, 2019

# ? Aug 23, 2019 09:41

MedicineHut: Feb 25, 2016

reverend crabhands posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNj97HznUU

Idris and Bengal carriers finally in game. About time CIG.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 10:30

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

MedicineHut posted:

Idris and Bengal carriers finally in game. About time CIG.

Massive FUD Surge Detected.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 10:33

Chocobo: Oct 15, 2012; Here comes a new challenger!; Oven Wrangler

Someone should do a janky shot-by-shot recreation of that trailer using an 890. I know someone in this thread owns one "ironically."

# ? Aug 23, 2019 11:43

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

NMS added wavy hands for station crew.

Also NPCs seem to be conversing in alien languages.

Thread intern, best not to tell Chris :ohdear:

# ? Aug 23, 2019 11:57

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Krycek posted:

Elite Dangerous will have carriers earned via gameplay before Star Citizen's $1000+ macro-transaction mega chariots are even seen in the ~~game~~modelviewer.

Elite Dangerous will have *bigger* carriers.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 12:25

his nibs: Feb 27, 2016; Welcome to the
Dream Factory; Grimey Drawer

Daztek posted:

Massive FUD Surge Detected.

Worthy of thread title, Shirley

# ? Aug 23, 2019 12:32

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

his nibs posted:

Worthy of thread title, Shirley

And i was going to suggest Star Citizen: pick a pocket or two.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 12:50

kilus aof: Mar 24, 2001

Krycek posted:

"beta" could be as little as only a few missions. They'd be able to say "we don't want to spoil the ending for you so the last half of the missions won't be included." The backers will cheer for "no spoilz" and Chris doesn't have to finish the game.

And it's going to be really boring missions, full of pointless steps like going to a station, talking to one person, going to another station, talking to another person and then flying to to some asteroid and killing 4 pirates. And the backers are going to assume this is the least detailed mission and how it's good for a tier zero and just imagine the real missions. Then as more missions enter the beta there is a slowly creeping cloud of dread when it becomes blindly obvious that the first mission released was the mission CIG spent the most time with and every mission just has less details and objectives and everything is downhill from here.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 12:51

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

The FIRST thing they absolutely have to get right in a space combat game, the combat, is completely broken and getting worse, yet people continue to throw money at CIG. I just. Don't. Get. It.

Reminded me of this, from 2014...

Vanduul Swarm; V09.1 w/ Mouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3ZvnUnUkU

# ? Aug 23, 2019 12:52

RagnarokZ: May 14, 2004; Emperor of the Internet

Even loving Space Engineers are making more progress than Star Citizen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz9JdUfmQO4

# ? Aug 23, 2019 12:56

History Comes Inside!: Nov 20, 2004

AlbieQuirky posted:

I�m paper books being used in space. In 2948. Because that makes a whole pile of sense.

To be fair, it matches the character of the kind of person who owns a fancy space chariot. Rich future morons will absolutely fill their spaceships with their own time's stupid obsolete hipster poo poo.

We'll all be dead before that ever happens for real though, and also before it ever happens in SC

# ? Aug 23, 2019 13:12

Slow_Moe: Feb 18, 2013

Maltloaf posted:

Don't know if you all missed this from the interior 890 screenshots a few pages back, but those book titles man, someone is on point.

EASY MARK

So, english is not my first language, and I didn't know what Disaproa meant. So I googled it, and ... it's a typo?

A 900$ typo, apparently. :negative:

# ? Aug 23, 2019 13:29

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1164860324668944385

# ? Aug 23, 2019 13:34

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

Mirificus posted:

# ? Aug 23, 2019 13:38

his nibs: Feb 27, 2016; Welcome to the
Dream Factory; Grimey Drawer

Hav posted:

And i was going to suggest Star Citizen: pick a pocket or two.

I'm seeing Crobblers as the Artful Dodgy

# ? Aug 23, 2019 13:40

his nibs: Feb 27, 2016; Welcome to the
Dream Factory; Grimey Drawer

Dementropy posted:

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1164860324668944385

jfc

# ? Aug 23, 2019 13:42

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Dementropy posted:

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1164860324668944385

Yes, try to wave hello as all 4 run past you in different directions followed by rent-a-cops.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 13:45

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

# ? Aug 23, 2019 14:24

Tsed: Jan 30, 2008; aaaaag drugs

rePool posted:

Any tips? I haven't played ED in a long while and 200m\h sounds drat good. I stopped playing due to the hours upon hours getting no money and found passengers to be more of a steady income but boring.

I'd start here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/wiki/index

For core mining, you're looking for a void opal hotspot, and you'll be cracking open asteroids to collect a cargo full of void opals. You then head to:

https://inara.cz/goods/10250/

And hit "best sell" to find a place near you buying them for 1.6m. Rinse, repeat. This method requires some new modules that the link above should cover ( https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/comments/a6ls9t/cmdr_madprophets_guide_to_core_mining/ )

Painite/Low Temp Diamond mining is more like what you might've seen before where you point a laser at a rock and collect the bits with limpets -- the difference is that Frontier added "hotspots" that increase the rate at which you find certain types of minerals. These hotspots can overlap to increase that rate even further, and people have documented them. Head to:

http://edtools.ddns.net/miner

Pick a reference system, pick painite or LTDs. The system will tell you where to find a overlapping hotspots, and where to sell.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 14:36

Zazz Razzamatazz: Apr 19, 2016; by sebmojo

AlbieQuirky posted:

I’m paper books being used in space. In 2948. Because that makes a whole pile of sense.

I'm the mutiple copies of the same book sitting side by side on the shelf.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 14:52

Zazz Razzamatazz: Apr 19, 2016; by sebmojo

Colostomy Bag posted:

Yes, try to wave hello as all 4 run past you in different directions followed by rent-a-cops.

As "yakety sax" plays in the background.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 14:53

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

Star Citizen's PTU has 500 players at most (4m43s):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUDqtO0Lzqs&t=283s

Isn't there something like 3000 people in Evocati alone?

# ? Aug 23, 2019 15:06

Scruffpuff: Dec 23, 2015; Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Dementropy posted:

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1164860324668944385

loving

# ? Aug 23, 2019 15:09

Scruffpuff: Dec 23, 2015; Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

"Come see us, CIG, completely legitimate game development studio, but you gotta act fast!"

# ? Aug 23, 2019 15:10

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

As "yakety sax" plays in the background.

Orchestrated by Pedro Comacho and on the official soundtrack promised by the kickstarter.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 15:12

Rotten Red Rod: Mar 5, 2002

Krycek posted:

"beta" could be as little as only a few missions. They'd be able to say "we don't want to spoil the ending for you so the last half of the missions won't be included." The backers will cheer for "no spoilz" and Chris doesn't have to finish the game.

Yeah, that's what I suspect they are going to do, but the roadmap seems to suggest they're working on EVERY chapter at once in some capacity. So if they're doing it that way, it's going to be a number of disconnected chapters, story-wise.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 15:16

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

I think a question to ask if Roberts is actually still alive as the 1/4 billion dollar project careens back and forth on the rails into history and oblivion.

Bring back that 10ftc crap.

# ? Aug 23, 2019 15:21