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Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell
The good thing about booblights is you can usually replace them with ceiling fans pretty easily.

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B-Nasty
May 25, 2005

Nevets posted:

The good thing about booblights is you can usually replace them with ceiling fans pretty easily.

Except for the fact that in most cases, the cheapo ceiling box installed isn't rated for a fan. DIYers that don't know what they're doing will have a loud, wobbly fan that is just waiting to fall and hurt someone.

Doing it right involves cutting the old one out and using an old-work expandable one (if no above access), or getting into the attic to put in a new-work one anchored to the joists.

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me

Fallom posted:

I have literally never seen a house where all the non-hallway overhead lights were wired with dimmers. My house has one.

That's because the regulations that requires dimmers went into effect around 2017. Sort of like the entire california green code law.

So it only affects future permitted construction.

Gimpalimpa
Jun 27, 2004
Title text?
Hello,

I unscrewed a plate labeled "TV" and instead of coaxial, I get this funny thin wire with two wires on each end. Up in my attic someone split the wire like a T. I'm assuming this is what they did prior to coaxial? I'm hoping to pull/feed coaxial to the attic through this. It's still my plan, but I'm just curious right now if the existing wire would be at all useful for anything.

https://imgur.com/VfyRMvJ

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Gimpalimpa posted:

Hello,

I unscrewed a plate labeled "TV" and instead of coaxial, I get this funny thin wire with two wires on each end. Up in my attic someone split the wire like a T. I'm assuming this is what they did prior to coaxial? I'm hoping to pull/feed coaxial to the attic through this. It's still my plan, but I'm just curious right now if the existing wire would be at all useful for anything.

https://imgur.com/VfyRMvJ



Looks like 300-ohm twin lead, so good for an antenna but not much else as far as I know.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

Gimpalimpa posted:

Hello,

I unscrewed a plate labeled "TV" and instead of coaxial, I get this funny thin wire with two wires on each end. Up in my attic someone split the wire like a T. I'm assuming this is what they did prior to coaxial? I'm hoping to pull/feed coaxial to the attic through this. It's still my plan, but I'm just curious right now if the existing wire would be at all useful for anything.

https://imgur.com/VfyRMvJ



That’s 300ohm “twin lead” or “ladder line.” It’s a perfectly valid way to feed an antenna, but has fallen out of favor because it’s affected by proximity to metal or power.

You may have noticed these things in junk drawers over the years. They’re 300/75ohm balanced/unbalanced adapters. Twinlead being balanced, coax being unbalanced.



Gimpalimpa
Jun 27, 2004
Title text?
Oh sweet, thanks. I'll give it a go with the existing line and if it doesn't work try feed the coax.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Gimpalimpa posted:

Oh sweet, thanks. I'll give it a go with the existing line and if it doesn't work try feed the coax.

Uhhh...give what a go? If you've got TV or internet service that's using coax, I don't think those adapters will allow you to convert to twin-lead then back to coax and maintain the signal.

Unless you're just running coax for, like, a roof or exterior mounted antenna...then it might work?

You can try to use this wire to pull the coax, and hope it's not staples down anywhere, but as is I don't think it's going to be of any use to you.

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me
My permit was finaled today for the 2nd floor.

The inspector told use "to move the standing (not-nailed) cabinet covering the electrical panel because panels need 3 feet of clearance space", but beyond that there were no other issues.

There's still some construction work going on (flooring replacement, which does not require a permit), but afterwards I may as well show the before and after pics.


My first floor plans that we hired an architect to assist us on are headed to a structural engineer today.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005
My old brick house is pinned, or whatever you want to call it so it doesn't open up like a banana peel. Over the last year maybe I've noticed the rods have started to sag. The end of one of them now has the nut a few mm away from the plate. I've never even considered this happening. I guess maybe the house has shifted back? I haven't got a drat clue what to do, if anything. Ideas?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

I'm not by any means a brisk guy but if I was in your position I'd be hiring a structural engineer.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
Haha, outstanding typo.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

Haha, outstanding typo.

Leaving it.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Instead of collapsing out your house is collapsing inwards. Call a structural engineer.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005
The thing about that is it can't really collapse inwards. The structure is pretty much a double brick square divided into four rooms with single brick walls. The rooms are pretty small too. On the kitchen / loungeroom wall there's a huge double sided fireplace which IIRC is part of the structure.
I think the house may be moving back to where it was pre 1960's renovation.

The amount of movement we see is unfortunately seen all around town. The ground is ancient clay.

I just had another really good look and have an idea what might be happening. It's not worth worrying about unless it continues because for the most part it is shifting back.
The other bit of shifting happened when the hot water system burst recently and wasn't noticed for a few days. It only really moved the bathroom and one of the sleepouts.

I've checked under the house with an endoscope. No noticeable moisture issues. drat useful tool, especially for about $5.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

General_Failure posted:

The thing about that is it can't really collapse inwards.

That must be quite a unique building.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

Motronic posted:

That must be quite a unique building.

Perhaps "can't" was a bit strong. The whole wall length on each side is maybe 8 or 9 metres, with the internal walls about halfway on each side. So bracing from going inward is pretty good.

Omne
Jul 12, 2003

Orangedude Forever

Got a quick painting question...

We painted some large horizontal stripes in our powder room to give it a bit of jazz. Unfortunately, we didn't know that using painters tape on orange peel walls is not very effective, and we've got some bleeding both up and down. What's the easiest way to fix this, without screwing up the straight line? The lower lines seem like they'd be the easiest, but how do I prevent the top lines from bleeding white down into the blue sections?

What it looks like from afar: https://imgur.com/a/58Hvfcd

And what it looks like up close: https://imgur.com/a/1cMPczt

Ghostnuke
Sep 21, 2005

Throw this in a pot, add some broth, a potato? Baby you got a stew going!


tear that wall down and paint it differently, imo

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Omne posted:

Got a quick painting question...

We painted some large horizontal stripes in our powder room to give it a bit of jazz. Unfortunately, we didn't know that using painters tape on orange peel walls is not very effective, and we've got some bleeding both up and down. What's the easiest way to fix this, without screwing up the straight line? The lower lines seem like they'd be the easiest, but how do I prevent the top lines from bleeding white down into the blue sections?

What it looks like from afar: https://imgur.com/a/58Hvfcd

And what it looks like up close: https://imgur.com/a/1cMPczt

I mean it's already hosed:
https://www.wayfair.com/decor-pillows/pdp/york-wallcoverings-waverly-27-x-27-surface-stripe-roll-wallpaper-doq2041.html?piid=16871483

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf

Omne posted:

Got a quick painting question...

We painted some large horizontal stripes in our powder room to give it a bit of jazz. Unfortunately, we didn't know that using painters tape on orange peel walls is not very effective, and we've got some bleeding both up and down. What's the easiest way to fix this, without screwing up the straight line? The lower lines seem like they'd be the easiest, but how do I prevent the top lines from bleeding white down into the blue sections?

What it looks like from afar: https://imgur.com/a/58Hvfcd

And what it looks like up close: https://imgur.com/a/1cMPczt

You could take a very fine brush and fix every spot by hand, but that would take forever probably.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Re-tape and paint the white or make the blue stripes slightly larger. You can caulk the tape to seal it: https://www.scotchblue.com/3M/en_US/scotchblue/tape-textured-surfaces/

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Omne posted:

Got a quick painting question...

We painted some large horizontal stripes in our powder room to give it a bit of jazz. Unfortunately, we didn't know that using painters tape on orange peel walls is not very effective, and we've got some bleeding both up and down. What's the easiest way to fix this, without screwing up the straight line? The lower lines seem like they'd be the easiest, but how do I prevent the top lines from bleeding white down into the blue sections?

What it looks like from afar: https://imgur.com/a/58Hvfcd

And what it looks like up close: https://imgur.com/a/1cMPczt
Retape, putting the tape over your white stripes. Paint the tape line with white paint, so the inevitable bleed through is white. This will seal the tape line. Then you paint your blue line.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Slugworth posted:

Retape, putting the tape over your white stripes. Paint the tape line with white paint, so the inevitable bleed through is white. This will seal the tape line. Then you paint your blue line.

This is the trick.

Also, use a straight-edge when you pull the tape up.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Has anyone filled a walk in closet with modular organizers like these? Is there any that people have used that they'd recommend?

https://www.modularclosets.com/collections/design-your-modular-closet

Our house was originally designed to be a 5 bedroom house but then the builder built one and realized the architect was a moron and it resulted in all the bedrooms and closets being too small. So they got rid of one of the bedrooms which in general was a good thing but 4' of the reclaimed length went into the master closet and they really didn't do anything to use the added 32 square feet. So it's an 11.5x8.5' room that just has rods with a shelf above them on the 3 of the walls, basically making it a giant waste of space.

It seems like the choices are MDF stuff from Lowes or HD that'll probably end up being 1200-1500, the plywood ones above for 2000-2500, or real wood ones which rapidly get into the $6,000+ neighborhood. I also like the ones above since I won't have to rip out and trim any baseboards, because I am v. lazy.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

I bet if you priced up a whole walk in closet with those you'd find it's a couple of thousand. Could you get a carpenter to quote to fit the space out for you as a comparison?

E:a quick look at those modulars and a simple 10' length of units could cost you $4000 unless you want no drawers, that's not cost effective.

cakesmith handyman fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Aug 27, 2019

Omne
Jul 12, 2003

Orangedude Forever

Slugworth posted:

Retape, putting the tape over your white stripes. Paint the tape line with white paint, so the inevitable bleed through is white. This will seal the tape line. Then you paint your blue line.

OK this is my inexperience, so please forgive me for asking what is probably a dumb question.

What you're saying is that I put the painters tape on the white stripes, with the edge closest to the blue stripe at the point where the bleed comes down the farthest. Then, paint the edge of the tape white, which seals the edge of the tape. Then, the area between the blue stripe and the white bleed, blue. Won't this make the stripes different sizes, as some bleed comes down further?

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Omne posted:

OK this is my inexperience, so please forgive me for asking what is probably a dumb question.

What you're saying is that I put the painters tape on the white stripes, with the edge closest to the blue stripe at the point where the bleed comes down the farthest. Then, paint the edge of the tape white, which seals the edge of the tape. Then, the area between the blue stripe and the white bleed, blue. Won't this make the stripes different sizes, as some bleed comes down further?

My understanding of their suggestion is retape it exactly to the line you were intending, with the tape wholly in the white section. Paint the edge of the tape where it meets the blue section, but paint it white. Most of the white will go half on the tape and half on the blue section, but some will bleed under the tape, but since it's white bleeding onto white that's OK. Wait for the paint to dry and then paint over exactly where you painted before but blue. Because of the previous white paint bleed, there should be no gaps for the blue to bleed into, and you'll be covering the white overpaint with blue. Wait for it to dry and remove the paint.

Assuming all that works, the only evidence would be a couple extra coats near the edges of the stripes, which hopefully would be imperceptible.

The best advice I can personally give is to take this as a lesson to test an approach in a small area and only go whole hog once you're satisfied with the results.

Omne
Jul 12, 2003

Orangedude Forever

Jaded Burnout posted:

My understanding of their suggestion is retape it exactly to the line you were intending, with the tape wholly in the white section. Paint the edge of the tape where it meets the blue section, but paint it white. Most of the white will go half on the tape and half on the blue section, but some will bleed under the tape, but since it's white bleeding onto white that's OK. Wait for the paint to dry and then paint over exactly where you painted before but blue. Because of the previous white paint bleed, there should be no gaps for the blue to bleed into, and you'll be covering the white overpaint with blue. Wait for it to dry and remove the paint.

Assuming all that works, the only evidence would be a couple extra coats near the edges of the stripes, which hopefully would be imperceptible.

The best advice I can personally give is to take this as a lesson to test an approach in a small area and only go whole hog once you're satisfied with the results.

That's what I thought, thanks for clarifying. My issue is by taping over the white sections, I'm covering up the blue bleeds. Wouldn't I need to either paint the blue bleeds white, or extend the blue further into the white?

Or, would it actually be easy to paint everything white again and start over, using this technique to truly set the edge and prevent bleeding on all sides? So, tape it all up, paint the edges white to prevent bleed, then paint the stripes blue?

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Omne posted:

That's what I thought, thanks for clarifying. My issue is by taping over the white sections, I'm covering up the blue bleeds. Wouldn't I need to either paint the blue bleeds white, or extend the blue further into the white?

I see what you're saying. You could do it the other way round and I think it'd work out OK, right?

Omne posted:

Or, would it actually be easy to paint everything white again and start over, using this technique to truly set the edge and prevent bleeding on all sides? So, tape it all up, paint the edges white to prevent bleed, then paint the stripes blue?

I mean, that's definitely an option. Perhaps try a few approaches on a small scale and at worst you can do a reset by repainting the whole thing.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

cakesmith handyman posted:

I bet if you priced up a whole walk in closet with those you'd find it's a couple of thousand.

I did do that, that’s where I got the $2,000-$2,500 number.

quote:

Could you get a carpenter to quote to fit the space out for you as a comparison?

I could but I’m guessing it’ll be enormously expensive.

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Just design some ikea algot poo poo and stuff that in your closet unless the aesthetic and cheapness are off putting

We just did one and it came out p deece especially for $250 all in

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

bird with big dick posted:

I did do that, that’s where I got the $2,000-$2,500 number.

That's because I'm not paying attention, sorry

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

I was at $2395 but that’s with only one four drawer unit which rethinking it is probably inadequate, adding another one brings it to about $2895.

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

okay so we've been working on our home renovation forever and this past weekend started working on the new access hole for the attic space. here's the hole:



current plan is to have a 5-sided box plug filled with insulation that you can just... shove... into the attic to get in. here's the box plug in its current state:



my original plan was to mount this frame to the ceiling around the hole. it's a 22x22" opening, the hole is 24x24", so it has a 1" lip all around. i was going to drive wood screws around the perimeter into the framing above. the plug would then rest on the frame and be flush with the rest of the ceiling


last night several things occurred to me:
* why did i screw the drywall to the plywood box base from the front instead of the back? fortunately i have enough drywall scrap to replace this piece and screw it from the back so there's no screw heads to deal with on the visible face
* maybe i should build a frame around the interior edge of the base of the hole? like 3/4" strips around the base of the hole and then don't have the drywall sheet go flush to the edges of the plug so that the plug is supported by the 3/4" strips that can be screwed into the framing perpendicular to the load force instead of the trim frame
* if i do that, then i could screw the trim frame into these strips from the back and hide their fastening while i'm at it too

alternatively, are there any decent hardware options that i could use to allow the plug to drop down out of the hole instead of having to push it up? it passes upwards cleanly but it's pretty heavy. im thinking like either some kinda long pieces of metal that can be rotated from the drywall face to hang it from the attic floor or maybe some kinda latching mechanism on the bottom? I've got 1/8" all around on the face sheet and more like 3/8" clearance from the box sides to the framing. this would create separate issues for the framing but i'm not opposed to coming up with a way for that to be removable with visible hardware - perhaps hinges on one edge and a latch on another

so i guess there's a few questions buried in here:
* can this trim frame support the plug safely or should I frame in the base of the hole opening for support and let the trim serve as trim
* is there any clever hardware bits that i can use so that i can have the plug drop out of the ceiling instead of having to push it up into the attic for access

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I know this isn't the question you asked, but is there a particular reason you didn't go for a premade attic hatch? They're quite cheap.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Doesn't letting it drop down just create the same problem, but in reverse? As in, you're still having to lift and push on a heavy plug, you're just choosing whether you want to do that to enter the attic or to close it. What you have now is already made and doesn't require further design work, so I'd just stick with that. If you wanted to make pushing the plug easier you could set up a counterweight with some pulleys, probably about as much work as redoing the plug so that it can be pulled down without simply falling out

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe
Why bother with the box at all? Just put the insulation on the back of a sheet of wood and it will be much lighter and easier to push up and to the side. That's how it is at my house.

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell

Bloody posted:

* why did i screw the drywall to the plywood box base from the front instead of the back? fortunately i have enough drywall scrap to replace this piece and screw it from the back so there's no screw heads to deal with on the visible face

Will this actually hold? Seems like most of the work is done by the wide screw head holding the soft drywall against a stud. I don't know if the threads are going to hold it well enough.

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Nevets posted:

Will this actually hold? Seems like most of the work is done by the wide screw head holding the soft drywall against a stud. I don't know if the threads are going to hold it well enough.

I had that thought as well. Redoing the drywall while trying to screw into it from behind seems like it may result in that whole drywall sheet falling off some day and is a lot more work than just slapping some mud over the screw heads. I can imagine covering the screw heads and painting not taking more than 1-2 hours, redoing the drywall on the other side several hours more than that

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