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The mint flavor is the secret to squeezing an extra couple degrees of cooling after all!
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isndl posted:The mint flavor is the secret to squeezing an extra couple degrees of cooling after all! Everyone knows when you inhale with a mint in your mouth it feels cooler than usual.
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Aug 23, 2019 18:55
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Dramicus posted:Everyone knows when you inhale with a mint in your mouth it feels cooler than usual. Menthol Thermal Paste, when your temps aren't as fresh as they could be
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Aug 23, 2019 19:06
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This is completely wrong. Mayonnaise is not the answer: You need to use a paste that's electrically conductive to reduce resistance in the pins. Doing this will unlock the true overclocking potential of your chip. Ever since the Athlon T-bird days I've used a clean credit card to apply an even and extremely thin layer of paste on the die/IHS before mounting the heatsink. Seems to have done well for me so far. 
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Fabulousity posted:This is completely wrong. Mayonnaise is not the answer: You need to use a paste that's electrically conductive to reduce resistance in the pins. Doing this will unlock the true overclocking potential of your chip. A friend and I always did that when we worked at a computer store, but I later realized we were really just using too much. Since then I just put a dot in the middle and smash the heatsink on.
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The tiny dot, line, or x shape have the advantage of squeezing air bubbles out as they expand, which the evenly spread layer won't do.
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Aug 23, 2019 21:51
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There's been plenty of testing done, some of which is even linked up above, and they all say that every method works about as well. GN does all their testing with the thin spread method as they use bulk compound.
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ASUS's BIOS engineer says that AGESA 1.0.0.2 was boosting beyond AMD's comfort zone for long-term reliability and that they haven't heard any discussion of boost clock increases in future AGESA revisions.
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Aug 23, 2019 22:35
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Moly B. Denum posted:The tiny dot, line, or x shape have the advantage of squeezing air bubbles out as they expand, which the evenly spread layer won't do. That's actually a myth. With a proper mounting pressure its impossible to have air bubbles.
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Aug 23, 2019 22:46
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Paul MaudDib posted:ASUS's BIOS engineer says that AGESA 1.0.0.2 was boosting beyond AMD's comfort zone for long-term reliability and that they haven't heard any discussion of boost clock increases in future AGESA revisions. Sucks that the behavior was beyond AMD's comfort, because it matched what they put on the tin (in my sample of one.)
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Paul MaudDib posted:ASUS's BIOS engineer says that AGESA 1.0.0.2 was boosting beyond AMD's comfort zone for long-term reliability and that they haven't heard any discussion of boost clock increases in future AGESA revisions.
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That's a bummer about boost clocks if it's true. I feel like mine could easily boost more if they let it. 60 degrees at max load should have plenty of headroom.
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"Hey reviewers, please use only 1.0.0.2 for Benchmarking" "Please dont use 1.0.0.2 as it runs too close to sun"
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Aug 24, 2019 04:44
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Unfucked Intel chips can't come soon enough.
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I got all carried away with my build because it was free and used liquid metal. It looks cool at least.
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FINALLY see that 3900X is available for order again (albeit with a September 22 delivery date) on Amazon, go to pull the trigger and... it won't add to my cart or let me click buy it now. I'm sure that means that it's already out of stock again and for whatever reason the product page just hasn't updated to reflect that yet, but jesus christ I've been trying to buy this goddamn processor for six weeks now, come on
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surf rock posted:FINALLY see that 3900X is available for order again (albeit with a September 22 delivery date) on Amazon, go to pull the trigger and... it won't add to my cart or let me click buy it now. Have you considered that the i9-9900k is faster on real-world apps like Microsoft Powerpoint?
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ItBurns posted:Have you considered that the i9-9900k is faster on real-world apps like Microsoft Powerpoint? Well,  that’s only if you don’t overclock your 3900x specifically for PowerPoint performance 
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Unfucked Intel chips can't come soon enough.  Considering how long they have been stuck on 14nm, I am starting to think Intel should consider AMD's fabless approach. Can TSMC, Samsung or whoever is making chips for literally everyone else invest as much money or more than Intel into process design? With x86 PC sales declining and Apple switching to Arm, about the only good thing I see for Intel is that they hired the silicon valley cowboy Jim Keller, but is he even allowed to touch their x86 designs? Considering Keller worked on the Alpha, the K7, K8 and Zen I think he knows too much about AMD's CPU architecture to be allowed to work on Intel's designs. Or is that not a legal issue?
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Got my Zen 2 build up and running, trying to get used to Windows 10 for the first time. I found with XMP enabled, I was getting a ton of BSODs, whea unrecoverable error. Was preventing me from doing Windows updates, they were so frequent. Any solutions, besides waiting for either updated motherboard BIOS, or Windows updates? I have an MSI x570-A PRO, updated to the most recent official bios (dated 7/2), I gather they've released newer beta drivers since then, but I don't want to gently caress with those until they're official. Am on Windows 1803, have done all the updates it wants to download, seems to not offer me 1903.
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Azuren posted:Got my Zen 2 build up and running, trying to get used to Windows 10 for the first time. I found with XMP enabled, I was getting a ton of BSODs, whea unrecoverable error. Was preventing me from doing Windows updates, they were so frequent. Any solutions, besides waiting for either updated motherboard BIOS, or Windows updates? I have an MSI x570-A PRO, updated to the most recent official bios (dated 7/2), I gather they've released newer beta drivers since then, but I don't want to gently caress with those until they're official. Am on Windows 1803, have done all the updates it wants to download, seems to not offer me 1903. Try using the Ryzen RAM calculator and setting your timings manually. It'll also probably have the bonus effect of giving you a better setting for tRFC (the number of cycles spend refreshing memory rows), which can be a pretty significant performance improvement.
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Crotch Fruit posted:14nm+++++++++ is enough transistor for anyone. I want to say that Apple bankrolled the poo poo out of TSMC something to the tune of a trillion dollars so they could manufacture the best mobile processors possible (they stomp snapdragons pretty absurdly) So yeah, TSMC has more money than Intel to invest into process design
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Any opinions on the ASRock X570 Steel Legend Wifi vs the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi? Looking at a 3700x based build for photo editing and 4k gaming and I'm having a hard time differentiating the two.
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The Rat posted:Any opinions on the ASRock X570 Steel Legend Wifi vs the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi? I think I might have already said this in the Parts thread, but basically the Aorus Pro just has better VRM and more USB ports (though the Steel Legend has an internal Thunderbolt header that the Aorus lacks). The VRM on either is totally sufficient for a 3700X, so the Aorus' upgrade is only important if you think you might want to run a 16-core 3950X someday, which honestly wouldn't be much of an upgrade for either photo editing or gaming. If the Steel Legend's USB ports are sufficient for you, I'd save the $60.
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Thanks, I'll stick with the Steel Legend then! At this point the last dilemma is the case, since both the Meshify C and S2 with the solid sides don't seem to be stocked by Newegg anymore. Gotta keep it black and devoid of personality like my soul.
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Azuren posted:Got my Zen 2 build up and running, trying to get used to Windows 10 for the first time. I found with XMP enabled, I was getting a ton of BSODs, whea unrecoverable error. Was preventing me from doing Windows updates, they were so frequent. Any solutions, besides waiting for either updated motherboard BIOS, or Windows updates? I have an MSI x570-A PRO, updated to the most recent official bios (dated 7/2), I gather they've released newer beta drivers since then, but I don't want to gently caress with those until they're official. Am on Windows 1803, have done all the updates it wants to download, seems to not offer me 1903. There are some more recent beta BIOSes posted here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=323855.0 Edit: Links seem a bit busted on that page, so may have to click around the forums to find a working one. The URLs were a bit odd, but apparently safe. I read down through the page, and looks like these might have had some memory speed issues so were pulled. JBark fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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Gigabyte x570 bios updates are pretty frequent / up to date, I'm liking gigabyte this time around.
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Stickman posted:I think I might have already said this in the Parts thread, but basically the Aorus Pro just has better VRM and more USB ports (though the Steel Legend has an internal Thunderbolt header that the Aorus lacks). The VRM on either is totally sufficient for a 3700X, so the Aorus' upgrade is only important if you think you might want to run a 16-core 3950X someday, which honestly wouldn't be much of an upgrade for either photo editing or gaming. If the Steel Legend's USB ports are sufficient for you, I'd save the $60. I’d love to hear more about Thunderbolt with AMD in general if anyone doesn’t mind explicating.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:I’d love to hear more about Thunderbolt with AMD in general if anyone doesn’t mind explicating. Intel opened up the Thunderbolt standard a while back and some X570 boards are integrating it - notably including a mITX board, which are fairly rare and super useful for portable systems with external GPUs. Were you looking for something more specific/technical than that? Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Gigabyte x570 bios updates are pretty frequent / up to date, I'm liking gigabyte this time around. To me the bigger advantage so far is that Gigabytes X570 BIOS's (can't speak for their previous mobo's) have had a better default setting than any of the others. At least as far as initial stability and safe settings (since launch) go. After you get it running you can of course do whatever tweaks you want but getting the system up and running quick n' painless in the first place is pretty important. I've run into zero issues since day 1 and I'm utterly baffled at many of the issues others seem to be having. Including dealing with things like flashing a modern mobo.... To me so far this has been a far smoother launch than the Ryzen 1 one was. Even when tweaking and overclocking things have been mostly painless except when I pushed the chip or memory to far which is normal for anything involving overclocking so I don't see that as a detriment. The only thing I don't like with this launch is that AMD oversold the OC-ability and to some extent the clocks of these chips but I'm still mostly happy with it. But then to me almost every thing I've ever dealt with has had some hidden gotcha that took the shine off things so maybe I'm numb to the BS now.
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quote:I've run into zero issues since day 1 You're using gigabyte? They push out agesa updates the most frequently for x570. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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Electric Bugaloo posted:I’d love to hear more about Thunderbolt with AMD in general if anyone doesn’t mind explicating. It looks like for the Steel Legend specifically you need connect the header to an ASRock Thunderbolt 3 PCIe x4 add-in card, which runs $95. So probably not something you'd want to do unless you really need the TB3 port. ASRock's ITX X570, the Phantom Gaming ITX, actually has a proper integrated TB3 port without the added expense or hassle. It's a little disappointing that they're not integrated into any of the larger boards until you get all the way up to the utterly ridiculous $500 ASRock X570 Creator. Stickman fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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quote:ASRock's ITX X570, There's some speculation about the board layout and memory traces here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXwjwxb39EA GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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The Rat posted:Any opinions on the ASRock X570 Steel Legend Wifi vs the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi?
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The Lian Li TU150 reviews have started coming out now and it looks like a very nice case, albeit expensive due to the lack of any fans including in the already high price. It has a USB 3.1 gen 2 type C front port, but which itx boards can make use of it? Is it only X570s, or do any of the B450s have the required hardware?
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Electric Bugaloo posted:I’d love to hear more about Thunderbolt with AMD in general if anyone doesn’t mind explicating. Thunderbolt 3 becomes USB4, as Intel’s interconnect goes royalty-free Intel slides, but I can't imagine that AMD's general integration of USB4 will be much different.   At minimum, this will prevent stupid poo poo like eGPUs being forced to run off an x4 connection that's sharing bandwidth with everything that hangs off the PCH, because that first slide is complete bullshit, ain't nobody outside of like, Dell on ONE laptop was hanging TB3 off the CPU itself, it was all off the PCH. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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