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mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

mysterious frankie posted:

With the provision that he was poo poo at everything he saw as embodying masculinity. Sweet and quiet Al was competent; Tim was the Goofus in that pairing. It sort of counterbalanced his chauvinism because, for all his talk, he was largely a child that meant well but needed constant check ins from Wilson, a paternal figure that walked him toward slow improvement.

Tim Allen “fixed” that with his latest show, Last Man Standing. He gets to play a barking, wealthy conservative that yells at the internet while having no apparent skills or tasks to perform at his job, then goes home and suffers the twin fools of women and liberals. Where Tim was a kind of ultimately good but clueless boy king midwestern dad still informed by his working class boomer background while enjoying upper middle class success, the character on Last Man is just a rich rear end in a top hat whose existence celebrates smug ugly disdain.

Which I mean does perfectly sum up the developments in America. cultural conservatism before and after 9/11. Last Man’s dad is like an activated Tim “the toolman” Taylor.

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Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

I've got this exact model at the bottom of a bin full of coax and mini-usb cables, and other obsolete electronic poo poo. Thing probably still works fine even after all these years.

dinahmoe
Sep 13, 2007

Whooping Crabs posted:

I've got this exact model at the bottom of a bin full of coax and mini-usb cables, and other obsolete electronic poo poo. Thing probably still works fine even after all these years.

I've got this one too! I had great plans for using it as backup storage. If I only knew where it was.

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"




College Slice


This would have been from about 2003.

spleen merchant
Jul 1, 2007
Fun Shoe
Smoking in pubs/clubs was still legal here in Aus in the first half of the 2000's. There'd be a heavy haze filling the room and you'd come home with your clothes reeking of it.
At least in my regional hometown, people used to drink way more and get much wilder then too. Wall-to-wall plastered patrons thu-sat nights, guaranteed brawls and people loving in dark corners of the dingy nightclubs.

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

Yea as an australian who turned 18 in 2003 smoking in clubs was a very formative part of my early adult years, nothing like putting your cigarette out on a super sticky carpet. The worst part was once it was banned you realized that the ciggy smoke was actually effective at hiding the massive amounts of body odour present.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
The banned it in bars, resturants and clubs in Nova Scotia in the early 2000s, and at first everyone whined and sniveled it was going to destroy all the businesses, but oops, they found it increased business. Though a lot of placed were pretty loose with the rules. You'd go to a show and you'd have people lighting up on the floor holding glasses, so that was a fun time avoiding broken glass and being burned by smokes.

fappenmeister
Nov 19, 2004

My hand wields the might

spleen merchant posted:

Smoking in pubs/clubs was still legal here in Aus in the first half of the 2000's. There'd be a heavy haze filling the room and you'd come home with your clothes reeking of it.
At least in my regional hometown, people used to drink way more and get much wilder then too. Wall-to-wall plastered patrons thu-sat nights, guaranteed brawls and people loving in dark corners of the dingy nightclubs.

field balm posted:

Yea as an australian who turned 18 in 2003 smoking in clubs was a very formative part of my early adult years, nothing like putting your cigarette out on a super sticky carpet. The worst part was once it was banned you realized that the ciggy smoke was actually effective at hiding the massive amounts of body odour present.

I used to have long hair back then, and without fail would wash my hair before heading out. By the time I got home, the stench would be locked into the hair, and I’d reek of an ashtray, Jack Daniels and a filthy 3AM souvlaki. I used to have to lather up 3-4 times to get the smell of ciggy out.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.
Found some 00's memories in my parents attic yesterday



Lol remember when downloads were really slow and you had to wait for your monthly magazine cd of demos and trials?

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
does anyone have a link to the archive.org backed up SA live 9/11 thread? it's loving surreal to read

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Kanine posted:

does anyone have a link to the archive.org backed up SA live 9/11 thread? it's loving surreal to read

http://www.truegamer.net/SA_911/911%20SATHREAD/

Edit: I dig the guy on page 1 trying desperately to get him to sell the photos to CNN

Edit2: and DeathVersace called it as Osama on page 2.

Heath has a new favorite as of 08:19 on Aug 19, 2019

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
WATCH BUSH START A loving WAR

Fun fact: people born after 9/11 are eligible for combat deployments to Afghanistan starting next month :911:

9/11 was my ninth birthday. I got a purple see-through gameboy advance.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Yeah, I remember smoking in bars and poo poo. It was banned in most places in Ontario by 2004. Like, I moved to my current city in August 2004 and it was banned here, but in my home town it was allowed for a bit longer, and I remember smoking in a bar a few years later that was in a different municipality.
You were still allowed to smoke on Patios up till 6-7 years ago, with some stipulations.

As a smoker, it didn't bother me *that* much, having to go outside to smoke as there were a bunch of occasions where I was right hosed up and then going outside to get some actual Oxygen meant that "hey, turns out I'm not as hosed up as I thought, good, lets order another drink".

Brute Hole Force
Dec 25, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Creature posted:

Were super long fabric belts that hung down to your knee a thing in the rest of the world, or just something that became inexplicably popular in Australia in 2001/2002? It seemed like for a while you weren’t one of the Cool Kids at school unless your belt flopped about when you walked.

It was a particularly odd style considering that it was popular at the same time as the oversized low-hanging Wu-Tang jeans. The belt did nothing, a piece of ribbon pinned to the thigh would have essentially had the same decorative effect.

I’ll admit I had a long belt as well, but because I was/am a super uncool fat dork it was more like a regular sized belt on me, and it held up my correctly fitted corduroy trousers. :shobon:

Last page, but yeah in SoCal it was a thing in the early/mid 90s back when we started wearing baggy pants but all so still wearing them at the waist.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

WATCH BUSH START A loving WAR

Fun fact: people born after 9/11 are eligible for combat deployments to Afghanistan starting next month :911:

9/11 was my ninth birthday. I got a purple see-through gameboy advance.

Mine is a couple weeks later in September. I think I got Need for Speed High Stakes that year. It definitely felt weird.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
Public indoor smoking is something that kind of shocks me whenever I remember that it used to be a thing. Having to specify smoking or non-smoking at restaurants. You couldn't go to some places like bowling alleys without absolutely reeking of cigarette smoke afterward.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.
Likewise. It seems unreal that it used to be the norm. That you'd come home from a night out and everything you'd worn would immediately need a boil wash - even if you hadn't overdone the beer and had a technicolor yawn.

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Tony Snark posted:

Last page, but yeah in SoCal it was a thing in the early/mid 90s back when we started wearing baggy pants but all so still wearing them at the waist.

Definitely was the thing in NZ too. Your properly done up schoolboy would have a scraggly uniform shirt (optional popped collar), shorts to below the knee, either Dickies that more or less matched the school uniform colour or proper uniform shorts that were 2 sizes too big, belt end dangling at the front, skate shoes the size of boats and a wallet chain. Once my best friend had the guy behind him tie his wallet chain to his seat during an assembly. They were seats in long rows that locked together, so when he got up, he pulled the entire row of seats into the people trying to get out, and then was yanked down when they shoved the seats back. :D

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

SweetMercifulCrap! posted:

Public indoor smoking is something that kind of shocks me whenever I remember that it used to be a thing. Having to specify smoking or non-smoking at restaurants. You couldn't go to some places like bowling alleys without absolutely reeking of cigarette smoke afterward.

i have a friend from high school who works at a casino and even though he doesn't smoke, people assume he does since he can't get the smell off him.

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

WATCH BUSH START A loving WAR

Fun fact: people born after 9/11 are eligible for combat deployments to Afghanistan starting next month :911:

9/11 was my ninth birthday. I got a purple see-through gameboy advance.

i literally know someone who's younger brother was born in 2001 who's about to be deployed lmao

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

SweetMercifulCrap! posted:

Public indoor smoking is something that kind of shocks me whenever I remember that it used to be a thing. Having to specify smoking or non-smoking at restaurants. You couldn't go to some places like bowling alleys without absolutely reeking of cigarette smoke afterward.

It still is a thing in many parts of the world.

On a related note, smoking in bars is banned in Korea now, but when it was legal it was normal for them to give you an ashtray with a wet paper towel in it which actually did an ok job of keeping the smoke and smell down. Is that something unique to Korea or has anyone else seen it in other countries? It's certainly the only place I've seen it, but I haven't visited that much of the world yet.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Is it still okay to smoke in bars and such in Japan?

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli
Yep. Plenty of people smoking in bars a couple of months ago when I was there and I doubt anything's changed since then.

E: I should mention that there are a lot of bars and restaurants where smoking is not allowed (especially places popular with foreigners) but that's a choice of the owners, not a legal requirement.

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Bees on Wheat
Jul 18, 2007

I've never been happy



QUAIL DIVISION
Buglord
I grew up in California and I can't recall a time when smoking was ever allowed inside any type of business, except maybe some hotel rooms. Even though I do smoke now, the idea of smoking inside is repugnant to me. There is (was?) some loophole in the law that allowed bars to have smoking inside if they met certain criteria, but I haven't heard of any in ages. One of my friends took me to a dive that allowed smoking inside when I turned 21 and like the novelty was cool I guess, but I only had a couple drinks there and never went back. Even in the dead of winter I still would rather bundle up and go outside to smoke than light up indoors. :shrug:

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Kanine posted:

i literally know someone who's younger brother was born in 2001 who's about to be deployed lmao

Sort of related. I was just starting College when 9/11 happened. A week later my nephew was born.

He will be starting college in a few weeks.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Bees on Wheat posted:

I grew up in California and I can't recall a time when smoking was ever allowed inside any type of business, except maybe some hotel rooms.
I remember a Smoking and NonSmoking section at my IHOP.
And ashtrays in the plane armrests.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Sometimes when i go to a restaurant I still want to say Non Smoking because you'd have to say it every time, it became an auto response.

Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE

FilthyImp posted:

I remember a Smoking and NonSmoking section at my IHOP.
And ashtrays in the plane armrests.

Same but at mine they had a partition between the two sections that was a glass wall about 4 feet high. The smoke was just supposed to obey the rules or something.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfYFnQaGXEI

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
did anyone post the documentary jesuscamp in this thread?

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"




College Slice
A few more pulls from that same 2003 catalog.




skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
“You are hearing me talk”

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Teachers always complained about saggy pants and it was almost always dogwhistle-y. They sounded like modern racists going off on "thugs"

boomers still do this in 2019 and dont realize that baggy clothing went out of fashion a long time ago

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Adults complained about kids' sagging trousers in the early 80s. From literature it's obvious they've been doing it at least since the 1800s, probably longer.

They can still be Hitlers while doing it but it's also a time-honoured tradition.

Bees on Wheat
Jul 18, 2007

I've never been happy



QUAIL DIVISION
Buglord

FilthyImp posted:

I remember a Smoking and NonSmoking section at my IHOP.
And ashtrays in the plane armrests.

Oh yeah, planes always had ashtrays in the armrest, but every flight I've ever been on was a non-smoking flight. :v:

Visiting family back east and having to specify non-smoking in restaurants was a trip though. Kind of like the first time I saw it rain during the summer.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Croatoan posted:

Same but at mine they had a partition between the two sections that was a glass wall about 4 feet high. The smoke was just supposed to obey the rules or something.

I grew up in the Seattle area, so that was more of an early 90's thing for me. I definitely remember being in a Denny's as a kid and having to go through a thick cloud of smoke in the smoking area to get to the bathroom at ~8:00 in the morning.

Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE

Iron Crowned posted:

I grew up in the Seattle area, so that was more of an early 90's thing for me. I definitely remember being in a Denny's as a kid and having to go through a thick cloud of smoke in the smoking area to get to the bathroom at ~8:00 in the morning.

I'm in Georgia. You're not supposed to do anything that makes the tobacco companies angry when they're one of the larger employers in the state so everything anti-tobacco is like 10-20 years behind the rest of the country.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
edit: wrong thread

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Brute Hole Force
Dec 25, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Bees on Wheat posted:

I grew up in California and I can't recall a time when smoking was ever allowed inside any type of business, except maybe some hotel rooms. Even though I do smoke now, the idea of smoking inside is repugnant to me. There is (was?) some loophole in the law that allowed bars to have smoking inside if they met certain criteria, but I haven't heard of any in ages. One of my friends took me to a dive that allowed smoking inside when I turned 21 and like the novelty was cool I guess, but I only had a couple drinks there and never went back. Even in the dead of winter I still would rather bundle up and go outside to smoke than light up indoors. :shrug:



The indoor ban on smoking was in 95 so depending on when you were born you either remember it as a thing or don't.
Pretty much any building built before this with a receiving area or that's a warehouses will have "no smoking" signs still on the walls, but any built in the late 90s or after don't.

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Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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I briefly worked in a restaurant in Illinois that most definitely had a smoking section, in probably 2005 or so.

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