Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Jesus, wait, people are seriously trying to Rational Brain this as a suicide?

I've talked to multiple people who do death investigations . . .dude had *multiple* neck bones broken and it takes sixty pounds of force to break even just the hyoid

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Jeffrey Epstein’s Death Still Feels Unbelievable. According to an Expert, It Isn’t.
“The majority of these deaths that appear to be suicides are suicides,” says criminal justice professor Christine Tartaro.
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Suspicious deaths have happened in jail before

Usually, deaths in custody don’t trigger waves of conspiracy theories and public scrutiny, but one exception, Tartaro notes, is the 2015 case of Sandra Bland, the civil rights activist who was found dead in her jail cell after police took her into custody during a traffic stop. Many didn’t believe Bland would have killed herself over a traffic arrest, and some suggested Bland was killed by police before they even brought her to the jail. The media further fueled some of the more outrageous conspiracy theories. Though there has been no evidence of such foul play (the autopsy in Bland’s death officially declared it a suicide), the incident raised legitimate questions about police discrimination and violence and why she was arrested in the first place. (Footage of the incident, filmed by Bland in her car and released just this May, has renewed calls for an investigation into her arrest.)

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In a somewhat similar fashion, reporting last week suggested initial autopsy findings in Epstein’s case could point to homicide due to a broken hyoid bone, further sparking outcry and intrigue. Tartaro notes that the claim was perhaps overhyped, as the broken bone is not uncommon in suicides, especially in older victims; the medical examiner ruled the death a suicide the next day.

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The U.S. Isn't Counting Prison Suicides Even Though the Law Requires It
Jeffrey Epstein's suicide shined a light on a problem in the prison system: No one is keeping track of suicide deaths on a national basis.
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High-profile deaths like those of Epstein and Sandra Bland, who was found hanging in a Texas jail cell in 2015, three days after her arrest during a traffic stop, lead to pointed investigations that might clarify circumstances around those deaths, but miss bigger trends.

In Epstein’s case, data could have helped to implement changes in prisons that might have avoided his death, Fathi said.

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Viewpoints: What’s at fault for rise of suicide behind bars?

Overcrowded and understaffed, U.S. jails increasingly leave inmates alone and under-supervised.
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When prison suicides make headlines: Epstein’s death was not the first to draw attention to the issue of suicide inside of American jails and prisons.

In 2015, the death of Sandra Bland, a young African American woman who hanged herself in a Texas jail, also made national headlines.

Bland had been stopped for failing to signal a lane change and was arrested and jailed for an alleged assault on a public officer.

The circumstances surrounding her death, like those surrounding Epstein’s death, were mysterious. That mystery was not resolved when Bland’s family filed a wrongful death suit and eventually accepted a monetary settlement of $1.9 million.

Such litigation is quite common following a jail or prison suicide, although rarely with the outcome that was reached in the case of Bland’s family.

Because families either settle or generally don’t prevail if their case goes to trial, there is little pressure from the courts to address suicides among the incarcerated. And, except in cases where there is notoriety, there is also little public concern about such events.

Ace of Baes posted:

Where would the CIA hide someone from the entire world? Where no one could reach? Jeffrey is in Wakanda.

Calibanibal posted:

Okay lol I can't tell if yall being 'ironic' or if yall really think Sandra Bland had a connection to Epstein? This is starting to stay into qanon territory...

Al! posted:

been checked out of this for a minute am i to understand epstein telling everyone they tried to kill him the first time has made it to the official story??? lol

Calibanibal posted:

Okay lol I can't tell if yall being 'ironic' or if yall really think Sandra Bland had a connection to Epstein? This is starting to stay into qanon territory...

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A landmark study on the commercial sexual exploitation of children was concluded by the University of Pennsylvania’s School of Social Work in 2001. The chilling report issued by the researchers was completely ignored by the U.S. media.That no doubt was due in part to the rather curious timing of the release of the report: it was issued on September 10, 2001—less than twenty-four hours before the World Trade Center towers came crashing down. Written by Richard J. Estes and Neil Alan Weiner, the study notes that the era of “economic globalization,internationalization, and free trade” has been accompanied by a “dramatic rise worldwide in the incidence of child exploitation...Child pornography, juvenile prostitution and trafficking in children for sexual purposes have emerged as significant problems on the national, regional, and international stages. So, too, has child sex tourism.”¹¹

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Koppel first met Spence in Southeast Asia when Koppel was serving as the ABC bureau chief in Hong Kong, and Spence was nominally working as an ABC correspondent in Vietnam. Spence openly boasted of working with both the CIA and ranking members of the Reagan and Bush administrations. He claimed that he had been involved in covert operations in Vietnam, Japan, Central America and the Middle East. His claims were scoffed at and he was largely portrayed as a self-important blowhard.

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The Spence story never really registered on the national media’s radar screen. Despite being a largely Republican scandal, it was completely ignored by such pillars of the purportedly liberal press as the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. The story soon disappeared entirely and Washington and the media proceeded to pretend as though nothing had ever happened. According to a Washington Times reporter, the paper trail was quickly covered up. Some 20,000 documents pertaining to the case were sealed by court order and the U.S. Attorney’s office issued a gag order on the release of information. By the time that Craig Spence turned up dead in a Boston hotel less than five months after the story first broke, he had been all but forgotten. He had earlier told a friend: “I may be disappearing soon. It will be sudden. It may appear to be a suicide, but it won’t be.”

Rated PG-34 posted:

lol. plz fix the thread title

Jose posted:

Christ how many things happened on September 10th that immediately got ignored

Perry Mason Jar posted:

The page on the Franklin child prostitution ring speaks for itself.

Suplex Liberace posted:

Lets get the list going

1. Fox news mossad art student story
2. That horrifying child sex crime study

gh0stpinballa posted:

OMG i know, i read it a couple weeks back and it's all quotes from one guy's lovely book "proving" it was a bullshit moral panic and then they casually mention in one sentence at the end that a grand jury said the whole thing stank of a cover up lol wtf

Suplex Liberace posted:

Lets get the list going

1. Fox news mossad art student story
2. That horrifying child sex crime study

Dr. Killjoy posted:

there’s a good chance that munchikin was a child rapist

Perry Mason Jar posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations&direction=prev&oldid=894764071

MONGO has removed every source indicating a cover up/conspiracy/actual loving child prostitution ring. His latest revision, shown in the links above, removed a line that read "Several books and documentaries have claimed that the allegations were true and were covered up.[7][8][9][10][11]"

FIVE sources, one of which is from an actual member of the Franklin committee (DeCamp)

old.flv posted:

Read the first section of the Programmed to Kill book last night before bed and it made me super hyped and aggressive.

Slept like poo poo so don't make my mistake

gh0stpinballa posted:

dig his loving weirdo twin towers pic and 9/11 tangent on his profile page too lmao

Jose posted:

Christ how many things happened on September 10th that immediately got ignored

Irradiation posted:

Bip Roberts posted:

I understand the motive for why someone would kill Epstein but what is the "he's alive and hiding" motivation besides to just load his body into an oil drum off site?

Bip Roberts posted:

I understand the motive for why someone would kill Epstein but what is the "he's alive and hiding" motivation besides to just load his body into an oil drum off site?

ManBoyChef posted:

Is anyone else just angry that the elites never have to face justice?

Bip Roberts posted:

I understand the motive for why someone would kill Epstein but what is the "he's alive and hiding" motivation besides to just load his body into an oil drum off site?

ManBoyChef posted:

Is anyone else just angry that the elites never have to face justice?

ikanreed posted:

Dead man's switches are easy to implement in the internet era

old beast lunatic posted:

Still extremely mad every day that Paul Manafort isn't guaranteed to die in jail. Render the pedo ruling class into nutritional paste for the people's weed farms, imo.