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Othin posted:Like what will you do with 90% of the rooms in there? The rooms, empty corridors, and massage tables are meant to be filled with: ~buyers dreams~. No gameplay will occur in those spaces outside of what a couple more players improv once a month. Star Citizen is in fact a model viewer which is why the average Star Citizen fan does not care if it is showcased in client or 3DSMax https://twitter.com/AwwwwCats/status/1166425492959965185
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colonelwest posted:It only exists so that neckbeards can pretend that they are wealthy and successful space men, by spending $900 on a nonfunctional art asset in a failed 7 year old pre-alpha. You're going to stand there and tell me that they haven't coded a full music playing and creation system? To my face you're going to say that the Space Turtle NPC I hire can't sit in the atrium and create never before heard music that I could then record and distribute throughout the galaxy? Are you really loving implying that I can't be Space Suge Knight smoking a cigar and wearing nothing but my Squadron 42 towel while I get a massage??
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Agony Aunt posted:Just returned from vacation and wanted to share this wonderful little exchange i had on reddit a few days ago. Think of it this way: -The CEO of a 500-man company is writing code to allow people to walk inside of a moving object. This is something so banal these days that they get script kiddies straight outta college doing this for 1/10th of the CEOs wage, if not less. Think of it, he wrote parts of the code to get people to move inside a moving object! NOT SINCE DUKE NUKEM 3D HAVE WE HAD MOVING OBJECTS ON MOVING OBJECTS!!!!!!!
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Grubby Hobo posted:If it is true, as some thought, that Erin showed to the concierge event already drunk, you gotta wonder why. He could also be turning into an alcoholic from trying to drink away the stress of working on a trainwreck and lying to backers  Hard to say at this point.
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Oh yeah, Erin Roberts has also gained at least 300lbs since I last followed this mess and it was literally shocking to see him. The cultists also have some new acronym that I see them pinning all of their hopes and dreams on, what's up with that? It's like SOCS or SSOCS?
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Chris, the man who was utterly dumbfounded by the prospect of cutting a cake is coding the physics, I ache for that to be true,
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Othin posted:Oh yeah, Erin Roberts has also gained at least 300lbs since I last followed this mess and it was literally shocking to see him. The cultists also have some new acronym that I see them pinning all of their hopes and dreams on, what's up with that? It's like SOCS or SSOCS? it stands for 'poo poo poo poo Oh Crap, poo poo!' and it comes from Chris's own mouth as he was coding the physics late one night
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Remember one of Roberts' biggest lies? That the whole universe would be an in-depth simulation where everything actually happens and nothing is faked and NPCs actually do supply runs and get pirated by pirate NPCs etc? Obviously I never believed that for a moment, but if I did, I'd be curious to find out just how that is supposed to work with SSOCS. They have to turn off all parts of the universe where players aren't currently, so the servers don't keep crashing every 12 hours and have a maximum player count of 50, yet at the same time the whole universe will be meticulously modeled and simulated? I mean I know the answer but it would still be interesting to hear how shitizens are able to take these contradictory statements and somehow have them both be true at the same time. Othin posted:Oh yeah, Erin Roberts has also gained at least 300lbs since I last followed this mess and it was literally shocking to see him. The cultists also have some new acronym that I see them pinning all of their hopes and dreams on, what's up with that? It's like SOCS or SSOCS? Server-side Object Container Streaming. Basically server-side occlusion. The theory is that the servers will only simulate the areas near players, which is of course sane and it's what pretty much all games already do, but it isn't some kind of magic bullet solution. Cultists believe that once SSOCS is implemented, their 50 player max cap servers will magically turn into MMO servers capable of serving thousands of players, which is of course bullshit. Even if it did somehow work, you'd quickly reach a point where players had spread out so wide across the server that you'd again be simulating huge areas of it. Ultimately what we come back to is that maybe it's a bad idea to make a massive twitch combat space MMO in a game engine intended for small FPS maps. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 28, 2019 |
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SSOCS is ultimately pointless as  if you think 1000s of people are playing this poo poo, it's a ghost town
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Der Shovel posted:Cultists believe that once SSOCS is implemented, their 50 player max cap servers will magically turn into MMO servers capable of serving thousands of players, which is of course bullshit. Even if it did somehow work, you'd quickly reach a point where players had spread out so wide across the server that you'd again be simulating huge areas of it. No no no, EssySocks is so your latency doesn't go to poo poo when people decide to do the same thing at the same time. It's your server-meshing that's going to magically make AWS into the largest computing supercluster on the planet. Ignore for a moment that Eve Online kinda already does this with one of the largest in-memory persistance stores and fabric networking; it's Amazon COTs that's going to blow the lid off large scale gaming. Because if there's anything that Amazon is know for, it's the speed of their deliveries, not the cost or robustness. Slightly more seriously; the 1600 people per instance was based on simulated agents on a local machine and a misreading of Moore's law in terms of networking. They actually seemed to believe that there would be more advances in gaming networking in the past half decade when the networking money is all in enterprise architecture, automation and stopping people from accidentally losing metaphorical limbs by using bad IAM or S3 configurations.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Think of it this way: Or, the horrifying reality: - The CEO is that manager. The one who wrote code once, 20 years ago. Who still considers himself a coder. Who thinks he's helping when he butts into every loving technical meeting and slaps his dick on the table with stuff like "This would be so much easier in COBOL" and "I don't see why you're spending half your time on integration tests, that stuff is what QA is for" and other extremely useful technical advice. The one who hasn't learned a loving thing about modern standards and thinks most of it is consultant bullshit. The one who thinks agile methodology is a threat and stamps it out at every turn.
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I played a bit of Just Cause 3 last night and it constantly surprises me that pretty much any and all games absolutely poo poo all over Star Citizen and do things without fuss or fanfare that the citizens would be high fiving each other over for months. I stood on top of a moving tank while tethering helicopters together, that alone would set redit alight for weeks, CI¬G would call it 'Object Interactivity Meshing gently caress Yeah' or some such poo poo
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peter gabriel posted:I played a bit of Just Cause 3 last night and it constantly surprises me that pretty much any and all games absolutely poo poo all over Star Citizen and do things without fuss or fanfare that the citizens would be high fiving each other over for months. CIG should hire you to name every basic thing they release
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Hav posted:It's your server-meshing that's going to magically make AWS into the largest computing supercluster on the planet. Oh yes right. The computer visionary Chris Roberts has designed a way to seamlessly mesh countless servers together, so that if a commando from one ship fires a bullet through his ship's window, it will travel across space and server boundaries to seamlessly hit another commando in his ship's Holodeck. I'm not being sarcastic either, this is what they've been promising.
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Der Shovel posted:Oh yes right. The computer visionary Chris Roberts has designed a way to seamlessly mesh countless servers together, so that if a commando from one ship fires a bullet through his ship's window, it will travel across space and server boundaries to seamlessly hit another commando in his ship's Holodeck. Not if I watch you via my huge telescope from bazillion kilometers away and sidestep that bullet, you goon griefer!
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peter gabriel posted:I played a bit of Just Cause 3 last night and it constantly surprises me that pretty much any and all games absolutely poo poo all over Star Citizen and do things without fuss or fanfare that the citizens would be high fiving each other over for months. Just Cause 4 is not that great, BTW. In fact; Just Cause 2 -> Just Cause 3 -> Just Cause 4 -> Just Cause. Der Shovel posted:Oh yes right. The computer visionary Chris Roberts has designed a way to seamlessly mesh countless servers together, so that if a commando from one ship fires a bullet through his ship's window, it will travel across space and server boundaries to seamlessly hit another commando in his ship's Holodeck. Yeah, I know. But they're keeping almost all engagement ranges below 2km and speeds below 300 m/s because they're working with an engine designed around foot/vehicle engagements in a 4km square. Changing the addressing space to 64 bit is fun, but that's still two 32-bit fields they're mashing around, and it has the knock-on effects of making uncertainly a bigger player in terms of the collision between a 64 bit addressing space and arbitrary precision. Even better, they appear to be wedded to the engine itself and have doubled down on Lumberyard, meaning that they get nothing from the last two major updates for CryEngine, which include new interest management (the whole 'culling' thing) and support for graphics cards released in the past seven years.
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Colostomy Bag posted:I just want a peaceful life and space farm. I just want a working toilet
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peter gabriel posted:I played a bit of Just Cause 3 last night and it constantly surprises me that pretty much any and all games absolutely poo poo all over Star Citizen and do things without fuss or fanfare that the citizens would be high fiving each other over for months. You should make quick videos of doing fun things in cool and good games, with Crobbears-like feature names "This is new Star Citizen never seen before tech called Grabby Tickly Hands 3.0. It allows Commandos to attach rockets to a cow's anus, grapple said cow to this car and civilian, then launch them all at that police helicopter. Ground-breaking. Tickly Hands sold separately, pledge now"
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Quavers posted:Looks like scqa.info died earlier this year too omg that was the wiki that was actually half decent. It had enough control mechanisms to keep the haters out.They're gonna have to fallback on that unmaintained one that I should have been trolling this entire time 
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Der Shovel posted:Oh yes right. The computer visionary Chris Roberts has designed a way to seamlessly mesh countless servers together, so that if a commando from one ship fires a bullet through his ship's window, it will travel across space and server boundaries to seamlessly hit another commando in his ship's Holodeck. And this in the tech demo where, as I recall, if someone tried to snipe you but you were too far away, your client would not register the hits unless you zoomed in on the shooter with a sniper scope.
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Virtual Captain posted:omg that was the wiki that was actually half decent. See if you can take over the old site, for comedy effect http://reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4cn0lk/i_created_a_webpage_to_catalog_every_question_and/
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Ah this is where you are wrong. CR himself is coding it so you can actually send packets faster than the speed of light and this game is in space so data transmitted should be in a vacuum and CryEngine stole the improvements from StarEngine. So as you can see, we will definitely be able to have 1000 people in an instance firing at each other from space and the ground with mines and every ship and all of the data points from all of the pledges will be able to be sent instantly to servers and clients because cloud.
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Der Shovel posted:Oh yes right. The computer visionary Chris Roberts has designed a way to seamlessly mesh countless servers together, so that if a commando from one ship fires a bullet through his ship's window, it will travel across space and server boundaries to seamlessly hit another commando in his ship's Holodeck. At the same time, if you go play the PU right now and have another player shoot you from a long distance their bullets won't reach... unless you zoom on them with your binoculars or whatever, then the bullets will hit you. Sanya Juutilainen posted:Not if I watch you via my huge telescope from bazillion kilometers away and sidestep that bullet, you goon griefer! Nooo you idiot! This how you get hit! If you don't watch it doesn't happen, that is SC logic.
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Hav posted:Even better, they appear to be wedded to the engine itself and have doubled down on Lumberyard, meaning that they get nothing from the last two major updates for CryEngine, which include new interest management (the whole 'culling' thing) and support for graphics cards released in the past seven years. That is just absolutely perfect. Cultists are creaming their pants over the REVOLUTIONARY tech Roberts is personally coding and which will alone make CIG millions in licensing fees (in 2-3 years when it's done)... and then a newer version of the engine they're using, a newer version which they'd already HAVE in use if they hadn't hosed over Crytek, already has it built in  trucutru posted:At the same time, if you go play the PU right now and have another player shoot you from a long distance their bullets won't reach... unless you zoom on them with your binoculars or whatever, then the bullets will hit you. That's just how good their culling tech is, it's LITERALLY bulletproof!
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Baxta posted:Ah this is where you are wrong. CR himself is coding it so you can actually send packets faster than the speed of light. Quantum Entanglement Networking, the next great backer hope.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:So how starved for game content are SC fans?(...) Yes.
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Der Shovel posted:That is just absolutely perfect. Cultists are creaming their pants over the REVOLUTIONARY tech Roberts is personally coding and which will alone make CIG millions in licensing fees (in 2-3 years when it's done)... and then a newer version of the engine they're using, a newer version which they'd already HAVE in use if they hadn't hosed over Crytek, already has it built in Huh, like MoMA´s ToS. Makes you think.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:So how starved for game content are SC fans? Well... Ugh yeah 7 vs 16 is pretty close to double the HOLD THE loving PHONE Its more than double!
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Ugh yeah 7 vs 16 is pretty close to double the HOLD THE loving PHONE If you went from the old show to the new show you drop 56% of your content!
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Rotten Red Rod posted:So how starved for game content are SC fans? Well... Totally not a cult: 
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Rotten Red Rod posted:So how starved for game content are SC fans? Well... Fans of other games make extensive comparisons of the weapons/locations/enemies/etc. Fans of SC analyze the poo poo out of the only content that is truly available to them : the publicity.
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