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Starting playing this a few days ago for the first time, on nightmare. It is amazing how the combat dynamics change once you get a base of neuromods build up. At the start I had to be extremely cagey around phantoms, often winning by throwing explosive canisters at them, or hitting them with the stun-gun and then dumping shotgun rounds into them. The ones that would duplicate themselves were particularly problematic. In psychotronics I discovered combat focus, and now I can pretty much bludgeon two phantoms to death at once with the wrench. So yeah, that has made things easier. It does make me reliant on those science operators to fill back up though. Also, I am currently going through GUTS, and I hate it.
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Leverage 3 gets really useful in Mooncrash because once power failures start being a thing in the sim, someone who can force doors open with brute strength is very handy.
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Jul 29, 2019 19:01
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I went through about 90% of the game before realizing shift makes you go faster in zero gravity. Yes I know all the controls are permanently on screen during those sequences. Didn't think I could go any faster because just holding W makes your thrust meter look maxed out. Going through every zero-G sequence at 1.49 m/s was torture.
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Jul 30, 2019 06:10
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SynthesisAlpha posted:I went through about 90% of the game before realizing shift makes you go faster in zero gravity. Yes I know all the controls are permanently on screen during those sequences. Didn't think I could go any faster because just holding W makes your thrust meter look maxed out. Going through every zero-G sequence at 1.49 m/s was torture. On the plus side, you probably saved yourself some real embarrassing deaths (I sure didnt)
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Jul 30, 2019 15:08
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Farrier Theaks posted:On the plus side, you probably saved yourself some real embarrassing deaths (I sure didnt) Once I discovered I could jet around at 10 m/s I was zipping around like an ace loving pilot with clutch turns and brakes. Zero-G sections went from phone surfing for 3 minutes on autopilot to a kick-rear end space balet. Also the speed indicator turning red told me not to crash at those speeds. I have, however, killed myself (in mooncrash) by melee killing kind controlled humans. Turns out they still explode. Killed 3 of them so fast I didn't realize what was happening. I'm almost done with mooncrash and I'm going back for a second helping of the main game.
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Jul 30, 2019 19:02
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At least Mooncrash mind-controlled humans don't really "count" since they're all listed as "?"
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I really really like Prey....sort of. What a weird thing to say. When I play it for any length of time I'm constantly on edge, and end up playing Dishonored or Deus Ex (any of them) instead. Anyone else have this issue? I can clearly see that this game is amazing, looks fantastic, plays great, and is great fun. But having head crabs made of shadow-stuff constantly jumping on me makes me so on edge.
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Aug 1, 2019 16:08
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I remember it being pretty tense in the beginning, but once I had a handle on the combat and some power ups the tension eased up. I picked up Mooncrash at the 11th hour of the Bethesda sale, I'm looking forward to diving in this weekend.
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Aug 1, 2019 16:26
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So, is Mooncrash named as such because it plays on the moon and crashes all the time? Three times in a row now, a crash ended my run with a message like "tried writing to address 0xFFFFFFFF" or something.
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Aug 1, 2019 21:14
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chaosapiant posted:I really really like Prey....sort of. What a weird thing to say. When I play it for any length of time I'm constantly on edge, and end up playing Dishonored or Deus Ex (any of them) instead. Anyone else have this issue? I can clearly see that this game is amazing, looks fantastic, plays great, and is great fun. But having head crabs made of shadow-stuff constantly jumping on me makes me so on edge. It fits really well with my tendency to play very slowly and look at all the stuff anyway, so that doesn't bother me, plus eventually you just turn into an insane psionic death machine that blows everyone up by thinking at them real hard and you start summoning the nightmare just to dunk on it.
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Aug 1, 2019 21:30
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I think I am in love with this game. The sound issue is still bothersome but the rest of the game makes up for it for me. I love how you are rewarded for exploring every nook and cranny, I love that everywhere is dangerous when you first enter an area and you're forced to methodically clear the place before you've got free reign. I love that my natural hoarding tendencies are rewarded with the recycling system. It is perfect sperg game. Only at the Arboretum so far. Trying to go full human neuromods and not kill anyone. At first I thought that you needed mindjack to free the enthralled humans but just discovered the disruptor does the same thing.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:52
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As someone who went 'full human' on his game... don't. There's a stupid little achievement at the end and that's it. You can still be goodie two shoes while turning yourself into a mimic. And also unlocking like dozens of achievements along the way instead of just one. Also, if you're like 99% of all players and you picked up the scrounging talents, you end up with more neuromod points than there are interesting human skills to buy. Criminal shame.
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Aug 4, 2019 21:43
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Serephina posted:As someone who went 'full human' on his game... don't. There's a stupid little achievement at the end and that's it. You can still be goodie two shoes while turning yourself into a mimic. And also unlocking like dozens of achievements along the way instead of just one. Yeah, the way the game makes it seem like bad things might happen a la Dishonored's chaos system (which is also a shame, I think high chaos is a more compelling and interesting story) is really too bad. Go hog wild on the neuromods imo.
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Full Human is easy mode anyways. All the mimic stuff pales in effectiveness compared to the unkillable murdertyphoon that a human-only neuro kit will turn you into. Fast, durable, extremely lethal, versatile and all-access. Now, going typhon-only... That's hard mode. Very limited inventory, fragile, ineffective weapons, slow, pick and choose from only two scope/suit upgrades, sneak around enemies to conserve psi... And No Needles is a real challenge. Good thing you can melt down all these stacks of neuromods you find to fabricate more shotgun shells
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Aug 4, 2019 21:58
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Can I just copy a file off the internet that takes place before the Endingtron 3000 so I don't have to put in the effort for a No Needles run?
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Can I just copy a file off the internet that takes place before the Endingtron 3000 so I don't have to put in the effort for a No Needles run? If you're going to do that might as well just use Steam Achievement Manager (or whatever the kids use now I dunno I'm old) https://github.com/gibbed/SteamAchievementManager Immortal Wombat fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Aug 4, 2019 |
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Aug 4, 2019 22:40
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Yeah, if you're not going to do the run either way and want your reward (????) for the thing you didn't do anyways, might as well skip the middle man and use SAM. An achievement is the only thing it results in.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:16
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The “consequence” of going for typhon points is that the incredibly useless turrets will also shoot at you before being knocked over by a stray breeze
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Aug 5, 2019 09:24
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Turrets are pretty effective in numbers actually
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Aug 5, 2019 12:31
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We all gathered all the possible turrets in the main hall and set them up at effective chokepoints, only for them to be destroyed after leaving them alone for one loading screen.
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Aug 5, 2019 15:29
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I put all the main hall turrets in front of my office because No Bugs Allowed, and then when I came back later they all ID'd me as Bug.
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Aug 5, 2019 16:20
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WaltherFeng posted:We all gathered all the possible turrets in the main hall and set them up at effective chokepoints, only for them to be destroyed after leaving them alone for one loading screen. Seriously this pissed me off. I spent so many spare parts fixing turrets and they automatically get destroyed when new enemies spawn. What's the loving point then?
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They don't automatically get destroyed and they work really well against mimics, but there's usually a stray phantom walking around and unless the turret somehow gets the drop on said phantom off-screen, it's going to zip-zap once or twice, blast the turret with a yellow ball and, at best, dislodge and auto-collapse it or just outright break it. Turrets work really well in dead ends without attack angles from above or behind, and in numbers of two or three. They can make short work of even phantoms that way. Buuuuut.... you really, really rarely have that kind of setup. Especially because Prey usually has huuuge vertical setups, and floating enemies. So you usually load into an area, new pahtoms or bigger baddies have spawned and roam around, and by the time you get to the turret, they'll have broken it (and you might find one or two dead mimic matters at its broken base)
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Aug 5, 2019 19:49
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Is there any chance of Prey 2 ever happening?
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Probably not, at least not anytime soon, but Deathloop could be good!
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Is there any chance of Prey 2 ever happening? The project director resigned from the company post-release, in most business contexts that translates to “seen internally as a failure”. But who knows? The Wolfenstein games apparently didn’t perform to expectations and Bethsoft is pretty committed to them. Cult titles can come back from the dead. There’s been fairly robust speculation that Mooncrash was a dry run for their new time loop game, from a design standpoint. So if you liked Mooncrash you might see something like it next year or the year after.
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HenryEx posted:They don't automatically get destroyed... Hmm... I remain suspicious. I'll have to gather all the turrets in the arboretum (4-6?) into an archway to test this on my next run.
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Basic Chunnel posted:The project director resigned from the company post-release, in most business contexts that translates to “seen internally as a failure”. But who knows? The Wolfenstein games apparently didn’t perform to expectations and Bethsoft is pretty committed to them. Cult titles can come back from the dead. Mooncrash was good but a little too easy and not random enough for what it was trying to do. I think expanding into an entire game will work a lot better than slapping it on Prey's existing systems so here's hoping!
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Immortal Wombat posted:Hmm... I remain suspicious. I'll have to gather all the turrets in the arboretum (4-6?) into an archway to test this on my next run. It’s a real shame they didn’t have the time or resources to put all the extra stuff from Mooncrash into the game. Laser turrets would have made a big difference.
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Aug 5, 2019 22:32
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I thought the turrets deactivated on level load?
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El_Elegante posted:I thought the turrets deactivated on level load? Nah they don't. All the deactivated turrets you find probably got pinball'd around by respawned phantoms' psychic blasts though, they usually do after a certain point in the game.
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HenryEx posted:Nah they don't. All the deactivated turrets you find probably got pinball'd around by respawned phantoms' psychic blasts though, they usually do after a certain point in the game. The turrets I place in "safe" zones like your office will still get damaged and knocked over on map load, iirc. Also, when a turret is near a map entrance, I could swear I've seen them explode as soon as I zone in.
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Ravenfood posted:Also, when a turret is near a map entrance, I could swear I've seen them explode as soon as I zone in. I was going to mention this but I play the game high a lot and I wasn't sure if I was remembering wrong
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Ravenfood posted:The turrets I place in "safe" zones like your office will still get damaged and knocked over on map load, iirc. Also, when a turret is near a map entrance, I could swear I've seen them explode as soon as I zone in. Equally anecdotal, but one of my office turrets lasted an entire run. Are you sure the turret you saw explode on zone in wasn't just attacked by a fresh typhon spawn as soon as you zoned in? I'm reasonably certain they don't just blow up by themselves.
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The reinforced turret i left at my office in my current run was also damaged when i came back from Psychotronics, but then i also saw two unlooted mimic bodies in the corridor
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Mooncrash ending speculations. I was wondering if any of the characters actually survive. I reckon the memory block missions take precedence in being the actual events, so we can be sure Andrius is 100% dead, since he is killed by a Telepath at the end of his mission. So no escape in the Mimic Portal for him. Yu is likewise 200% dead, since even in her escape she gets deleted and then the operator with her backup ends up Mooncrashing. Claire may be alive or dead, as in Bhatia's memory the player gets the option of letting her escape. So whatever is chosen there is her determinant. I am on the fence about Bhatia. We originally find his corpse in the simulation close to where his memory mission concludes, but the simulation is supposed to become more accurate as the player explores it, so that may or may not be precise at that point. If it isn't, I guess he pulled off the Mass Driver escape. And as for Joan, I guess she's dead too, since the Shuttle is still around the base, unless there is a second. Shame, she was my favorite.  Peter obviously survives long enough to crash on Earth. He might or might not get eaten by the Mimic that came along with him. I guess it's kind of a moot point, since the Earth is taken over by the Typhon and the likehood of a Prey 2 is not looking good at the present.
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I'm at least halfway into my 'typhon powers too' run. Jeeesus christ, it's OP. Telepaths and technopaths were always really tough, but now psychoshock just removes all of their powers. At level 3 you can cast it again before their powers come back. Technopaths only need it to be cast once though: 1 psychoshock then 1 machine mind on a turret it's controlling. That will kill it. Psychoshock is also nice if the nightmare is stuck behind something and casting those light-ball things at you. It's ALSO nice because it doesn't destroy anything or cause fires. It has a short range though, seems to be 20 feet or so.
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Typhon powers basically turns you into a walking death machine. It's insane how powerful you can get if you really go out of your way to get neuromod parts and buy all the psi powers. In the end I was desperately hucking anything I could find into a big pile to recycle grenade it for metal, because I had more exotic than I could eat but I used all the metal making neuromods 
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The best thing about typhon powers is time stops while you cast them. So you can drop 3-4 big damage spells on something in an instant.
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Even just the one that locks out enemy powers is enough to break the game, turning enemies that were previously extremely dangerous into harmless kittens
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