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Aug 28, 2019 13:48
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What's the deal with Al Jean anyway? He was influential early on with good poo poo and even left for a bit to make the also awesome critic but god drat simpsons sucks now
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Aug 28, 2019 14:07
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I've also wondered what the hell happened, but I assume it's just due to him never leaving again. One person can be funny when writing the same show for only so long before their ideas get old and stale. Variety is the spice of life.
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Aug 28, 2019 14:46
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Data Graham posted:Picturing an AI that is programmed today so it produces Cryptkeeper Marge and Unrecognizable Moe voices from now till eternity It's been done already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78gYyTrG7Y
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Aug 28, 2019 15:03
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Milo and POTUS posted:What's the deal with Al Jean anyway? He was influential early on with good poo poo and even left for a bit to make the also awesome critic but god drat simpsons sucks now That really just makes me curious as to just how much of The Critic he was responsible for. Yeah I know his name's on it but that doesn't always mean everything.  Maybe he was funny once upon a time before he became Al "jokes in the corner" Jean
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Aug 28, 2019 15:07
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IUG posted:It's been done already. what the unbelievable gently caress is this poo poo
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Aug 28, 2019 15:42
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esports magazine posted:what the unbelievable gently caress is this poo poo
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Aug 28, 2019 15:53
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Milo and POTUS posted:What's the deal with Al Jean anyway? He was influential early on with good poo poo and even left for a bit to make the also awesome critic but god drat simpsons sucks now No showrunner should be doing one show for twenty years, no matter how good they are it’s gonna get stale with such an enormous time frame. I’m sure there are exceptions for the best of the best but I don’t think that includes Al Jean. No matter the talent or intentions, this poo poo it just unsustainable in its current form
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Aug 28, 2019 16:25
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Aug 28, 2019 19:23
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esports magazine posted:what the unbelievable gently caress is this poo poo One of very few good things to come out of the Simpsons in a long while.
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Aug 28, 2019 19:57
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I keep seeing this avatar: But all I can think of is: 
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Aug 28, 2019 20:03
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:I keep seeing this avatar: drat you really gonna make me waste another $5?
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Aug 28, 2019 20:21
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WeaponX posted:No showrunner should be doing one show for twenty years, no matter how good they are it’s gonna get stale with such an enormous time frame. I’m sure there are exceptions for the best of the best but I don’t think that includes Al Jean. Good point, if Bill Oakley were entering his 23rd season of showrunning it would still be in bad shape. Although he does seem to have self awareness so it wouldn’t be as dire.
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Aug 28, 2019 21:36
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Milo and POTUS posted:What's the deal with Al Jean anyway? He was influential early on with good poo poo and even left for a bit to make the also awesome critic but god drat simpsons sucks now I guess Mike Reiss was the funny one
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Aug 28, 2019 22:55
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DizzyBum posted:One of very few good things to come out of the Simpsons in a long while. Actually it sucks poo poo
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Aug 28, 2019 23:11
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DizzyBum posted:One of very few good things to come out of the Simpsons in a long while. is this what stockholm syndrome looks like, that poo poo sucked
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Aug 28, 2019 23:19
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Last Chance posted:Actually it sucks poo poo esports magazine posted:is this what stockholm syndrome looks like, that poo poo sucked Nah. Some of the couch gags have been better than the vast majority of Simpsons episodes over the last decade.
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Aug 28, 2019 23:38
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that hertzfeldt is great, sorry
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Aug 29, 2019 00:17
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Plant MONSTER. posted:That really just makes me curious as to just how much of The Critic he was responsible for. Yeah I know his name's on it but that doesn't always mean everything. Gonna do a hot take here, but a good chunk of The Critic isn't that great. It might be just me, but as episodes go by in The Critic, the show more and more does the late-era Simpsons thing of "we wrote like five minutes of plot and need to fill the rest of this thing up." So there'll be someone saying one sentence, then do a non-sequitir monkeycheese joke or a cutaway gag, then say a sentence, then do a gag, and so on and so forth. On my last watch, I think the trucker and Desert Storm episodes were probably the biggest offenders that made me notice this. You'd have people start talking in a restaurant doing plot stuff, then after chaining together a bunch of cutaways and random gags, you'd be about 8 minutes along realizing that they only said a few sentences in that restaurant. Modern Simpsons does that a lot too, but instead of some funny gags like The Critic, they're these laboriously-long windups and post-scripts to really lame jokes. I still like The Critic and think it's fine, I've just started noticing common threads between it and the worse parts of the Simpsons every time I rewatch it. There's a group of people that rip on the early Simpsons for using nothing but Harvard writers, but we also keep saying that those are the only good episodes so  maybe hiring people who graduate from a good school for writing may know what they're doing when it comes to writing.
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Aug 29, 2019 00:43
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Last Chance posted:Actually it sucks poo poo Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
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Aug 29, 2019 00:43
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Its the only guest opening that doesn't feel like the unfunny Simpson writers "punched it up" or had the guest sign off on a shallow caricature of their work. Look at the Del Toro or Banksy ones to see what I mean.
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Aug 29, 2019 00:55
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Yeah, Don Hertzfeldt owns and his opening feels very him. Don't have cow, man.
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Aug 29, 2019 01:42
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IUG posted:It's been done already. this is just awful, and it probably cost more money than i'll ever see
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Aug 29, 2019 01:58
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I think I'm being trolled , I rewatched that couch gag and it's extremely irritating lol, i wish I hadn't rewatched it.
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Aug 29, 2019 02:01
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i'm surprised they let him get away with it, really i guess the showrunners didn't really get it
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Aug 29, 2019 02:03
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I think you're missing the point, that couch gag is terrible, but we all know it was better than the rest of the episode
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Aug 29, 2019 02:29
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Plan Z posted:Gonna do a hot take here, but a good chunk of The Critic isn't that great. It might be just me, but as episodes go by in The Critic, the show more and more does the late-era Simpsons thing of "we wrote like five minutes of plot and need to fill the rest of this thing up." So there'll be someone saying one sentence, then do a non-sequitir monkeycheese joke or a cutaway gag, then say a sentence, then do a gag, and so on and so forth. On my last watch, I think the trucker and Desert Storm episodes were probably the biggest offenders that made me notice this. You'd have people start talking in a restaurant doing plot stuff, then after chaining together a bunch of cutaways and random gags, you'd be about 8 minutes along realizing that they only said a few sentences in that restaurant. Modern Simpsons does that a lot too, but instead of some funny gags like The Critic, they're these laboriously-long windups and post-scripts to really lame jokes. I still like The Critic and think it's fine, I've just started noticing common threads between it and the worse parts of the Simpsons every time I rewatch it. I was trying to find a way to say something like this. You can see the seeds of the problems Jean would have in his second run pretty much from the start, but there was enough new material to explore and incredible writers to turn it into some of the best television ever. But even back in the 90's, Jean and Reiss episodes would run short and be padded out by full openings, longer couch gags, and stuff like tv show or movie parodies.
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Aug 29, 2019 02:45
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Iron Crowned posted:I think you're missing the point, that couch gag is terrible, but we all know it was better than the rest of the episode except that it isn't terrible
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Aug 29, 2019 02:55
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:i'm surprised they let him get away with it, really It ate up two minutes of the show they don't have to write. I'm sure they're thrilled
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Aug 29, 2019 03:11
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the hertzfeldt couch gag is good
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Aug 29, 2019 03:21
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"i am simpson. i am simpson. i am simpson." drat what comedic skill
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Aug 29, 2019 03:24
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How many people who don’t like the Hertzfeldt couch gag don’t know who Hertzfeldt is I wonder
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Aug 29, 2019 03:26
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YeahTubaMike posted:this is just awful, and it probably cost more money than i'll ever see
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Aug 29, 2019 03:32
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i never thought i'd see the day when people on this forum hated on hertzfeldt. we deserve modern simpsons.
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Aug 29, 2019 03:35
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Plan Z posted:Gonna do a hot take here, but a good chunk of The Critic isn't that great. It might be just me, but as episodes go by in The Critic, the show more and more does the late-era Simpsons thing of "we wrote like five minutes of plot and need to fill the rest of this thing up." So there'll be someone saying one sentence, then do a non-sequitir monkeycheese joke or a cutaway gag, then say a sentence, then do a gag, and so on and so forth. On my last watch, I think the trucker and Desert Storm episodes were probably the biggest offenders that made me notice this. You'd have people start talking in a restaurant doing plot stuff, then after chaining together a bunch of cutaways and random gags, you'd be about 8 minutes along realizing that they only said a few sentences in that restaurant. Modern Simpsons does that a lot too, but instead of some funny gags like The Critic, they're these laboriously-long windups and post-scripts to really lame jokes. I still like The Critic and think it's fine, I've just started noticing common threads between it and the worse parts of the Simpsons every time I rewatch it. It's actually great, sorry you're poo poo
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Aug 29, 2019 03:37
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esports magazine posted:"i am simpson. i am simpson. i am simpson." drat what comedic skill It's her shattered brain trying to remember "you are Lisa Simpson"
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Aug 29, 2019 03:39
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chaosbreather posted:we deserve modern simpsons.
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Aug 29, 2019 03:43
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Sentient Data posted:It's her shattered brain trying to remember "you are Lisa Simpson" whats the punchline
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Aug 29, 2019 03:46
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esports magazine posted:"i am simpson. i am simpson. i am simpson." drat what comedic skill that's not the point, the animation is saying what everyone in this thread has been saying for 253 pages
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Aug 29, 2019 03:54
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Well, even though that was unfunny and awful, it certainly wasn't the lowest point of the show The New Orleans sequence is considerably worse imho
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Aug 29, 2019 04:38
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