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Darkman Fanpage posted:

nice of them to give the chinese secret police an easy way to identify dissidents! this just reeks of idiot lib poo poo. like i dont give a poo poo about what's going on in hk either way but from an opsec point of view this is insanely dumb.

Bloodnose posted:

yeah real serious anarchists would never get anarchist tattoos must be dumb libs

420 Gank Mid posted:

https://twitter.com/iKvlmW44dRLcm3d/status/1166499239016321030

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Aeolius posted:

speaking in general terms (and not about HK's police because idk), the issue with ACAB as a universal principle is that, like a lot of liberal idealism, it fixates on form and ignores class content. example: a police officer in Cuba shouldn't be evaluated in the exact same terms as one in the USA, as they're upholding different class dictatorships

pretty cool that the cops in that story got arrested, though, instead of being given paid administrative leave

Typo posted:

this, for instance liberals in this thread cheers when workers goes on strike in China without clearing it through proper party channels and weakens Socialist chinese economy and when African workers kill their chinese managers and weakens China-African solidarity against western imperialism. It has all the forms of "leftism" but is in reality anti-socialist, anti-worker's rights and ignores the class content in which Socialist states stand for class interests of the global proletariat and attacking the worker's state is to attack the class interests of the global proletariat.

Typo posted:

this, for instance liberals in this thread cheers when workers goes on strike in China without clearing it through proper party channels and weakens Socialist chinese economy and when African workers kill their chinese managers and weakens China-African solidarity against western imperialism. It has all the forms of "leftism" but is in reality anti-socialist, anti-worker's rights and ignores the class content in which Socialist states stand for class interests of the global proletariat and attacking the worker's state is to attack the class interests of the global proletariat.

Bloodnose posted:

real serious anarchists... must be dumb libs

Typo posted:

this, for instance liberals in this thread cheers when workers goes on strike in China without clearing it through proper party channels and weakens Socialist chinese economy and when African workers kill their chinese managers and weakens China-African solidarity against western imperialism. It has all the forms of "leftism" but is in reality anti-socialist, anti-worker's rights and ignores the class content in which Socialist states stand for class interests of the global proletariat and attacking the worker's state is to attack the class interests of the global proletariat.

Typo posted:

this, for instance liberals in this thread cheers when workers goes on strike in China without clearing it through proper party channels and weakens Socialist chinese economy and when African workers kill their chinese managers and weakens China-African solidarity against western imperialism. It has all the forms of "leftism" but is in reality anti-socialist, anti-worker's rights and ignores the class content in which Socialist states stand for class interests of the global proletariat and attacking the worker's state is to attack the class interests of the global proletariat.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

idiot lib poo poo.

The Great Autismo! posted:

also r. guyovich please change my forums user name to "idiot lib poo poo"

Aeolius posted:

i'm with you as far as it goes to say "we should be trying to build a society that has no need for a dedicated security force, and all the power imbalances and accountability issues that can accompany such"

the problem is, i don't think we're going to have a world that can support such a thing until capitalism (and by extension imperialism) is fully defeated. otherwise, even the best-ordered society you can dream of will still have to contend with all the usual threats, destabilization tactics, perverse incentives, and so on. at the very least, the class distinction must still be drawn so long as class struggle remains the motor of history


possibly one of the reasons you gave. possibly the existence of the thing i mention above, assuming the international context is still imperialism. possibly to respond to other difficulties that arise in the context of shedding the cultural trappings of bourgeois society (itself in a form that will no doubt be in flux in line with the conditions in question). or possibly even nothing more than the existence of path dependence in human affairs; change, even revolutionary change, doesn't occur overnight. it's a deceptively complex question (e: to say nothing of the difficulties of defining exactly how "weak" or "marginal" we mean exactly, when we're still discussing an intrinsically pathological set of social relations)

Typo posted:

I would rather we use phrase "red lives matter" to honor the tireless vigilance, strength, and sacrifice in the line of duty by Hong Kong "Chekists" in defending against imperialism (and by extension capitalism) as oppose to you know, line of murdering minorities for fun like USA police.

Typo posted:

Agreed, this is why I hate "blue lives matter" being thrown around in this thread since it draws false equivalence between "chekists" using "tough methods" against enemies in order to defend socialism against all the usual threats, opposition, destabilization tactics, perverse incentives, and so on from capitalism (and by extension imperialism), and USA police whose job is pretty much "kill/arrest the allocated quota of minorities so racist liberals don't have to be scared of walking on the same sidewalk as a black person at night". I would rather we use phrase "red lives matter" to honor the tireless vigilance, strength, and sacrifice in the line of duty by Hong Kong "Chekists" in defending against imperialism (and by extension capitalism) as oppose to you know, line of murdering minorities for fun like USA police.

sincx posted:

LOL


What's worse, regular bootlicking, or cross-cultural bootlicking?

sincx posted:

What's worse, regular bootlicking, or cross-cultural bootlicking?

Lady Galaga posted:

https://www.scmp.com/comment/letters/article/3024337/hong-kong-polices-reluctance-use-water-cannons-prove-they

Nostalgia bootlicking, from a retired prune who lives in a sexpat hotspot

Lady Galaga posted:

When the HK Government finally collapses and reveals the true villain all along

Lady Galaga posted:

When the HK Government finally collapses and reveals the true villain all along

sincx posted:

Wasn't the first C&C Generals China level "send the PLA into Hong Kong and secure a stadium"?

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

https://twitter.com/stungusbungus/status/1166917061429186561?s=19

Lady Galaga posted:

https://www.scmp.com/comment/letters/article/3024337/hong-kong-polices-reluctance-use-water-cannons-prove-they

Nostalgia bootlicking, from a retired prune who lives in a sexpat hotspot

gradenko_2000 posted:

Nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNrqu2RgJKI

It was about the PLA nuking Beijing during a military parade