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RBC posted:There's a first time for everything. Remember every liberal leader had always been PM at least once until stephen dion and michael ignatieff came along I wonder how much of that was them being actually lovely leaders vs. Harper's custom-built Republican-inspired attack machine polluting the airwaves with poo poo like those "Just Visiting" ads and making people think they were.
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:*when taking over from the other party. Pardon. Trudeau took the role with a majority, that has previously signaled he'll hold on at least one more cycle. That's not like, an iron law of the world, it's just "governments tend to be reelected". Another way to say "every first term majority government since the 1930s has won a second mandate" is "Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien won a second mandate", and generalising from two instances isn't actually super helpful.
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah the NDP looks really uncredible this election, I won't be surprised if the Libs win a reduced majority. Overall the NDP is really bad at messaging and making people aware of their platform. But there are some super radical candidates running across the country for the NDP: Yvonne Hanson for Vancouver-Granville Leah Gazan for Winnipeg Centre Diana Yoon for Spadina-Fort York There are some more probably but I'm lazy. Anyway if you are near these folks they could probably use your help!
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It is really worth keeping in mind that academics and journalists face all kinds of pressure and one of the largest pressures they face is the need to present information in the socially legitimate fashion, which currently means having empirical data that can ideally be expressed in charts or tables. That creates a lot of temptation to go out and randomly count things so that you can claim to identify statistical regularities that can then be expressed in numerical form, because that is what "real" data looks like. Just check out Eric Grenier if you want a particularly sad example of someone doing really basic election punditry and then trying to dress it up in statistical models. The problem is, you can count up all the majority governments that have been elected in Canada and then claim to have found statistical regularities (hey look, nobody who entered government with a working majority has ever lost the next election!) but there's no reason to think your sample is actually representative of something. Is a Canadian election from sixty years ago actually comparable to an election today? Are the available number of elections you're looking at actually a large enough sample size to be meaningfully analyzed? Authors often don't bother to ask that question because the real motivation for including the raw data is that it makes the written words appear more convincing. It's basically an aesthetic decision.
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I'm enjoying that there is a piece that espouses "This election should be about more than which leader sucks." Because as an Ontarian, I really don't know any other kind of election.
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thehoodie posted:Overall the NDP is really bad at messaging and making people aware of their platform. But there are some super radical candidates running across the country for the NDP: Breen Ouellette, Vancouver Centre
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Aug 28, 2019 00:30
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Jessa MacLean (York-Simcoe) seemed more radical than the average NDPeep when I met her
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Aug 28, 2019 01:21
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Like, doing sick half-pipe tricks?
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Just saw a Chinese lady handing out flyers for the People's Party. Okay lady, let me know how that works out for you. 
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infernal machines posted:Like, doing sick half-pipe tricks? No that's the other guy https://radicalwayne.tumblr.com/
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EvidenceBasedQuack posted:No that's the other guy https://radicalwayne.tumblr.com/  Solid Gold
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McGavin posted:Just saw a Chinese lady handing out flyers for the People's Party. I can't believe the face-eating leopards would eat my face first, etc.
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Helsing posted:It is really worth keeping in mind that academics and journalists face all kinds of pressure and one of the largest pressures they face is the need to present information in the socially legitimate fashion, which currently means having empirical data that can ideally be expressed in charts or tables. That creates a lot of temptation to go out and randomly count things so that you can claim to identify statistical regularities that can then be expressed in numerical form, because that is what "real" data looks like. Just check out Eric Grenier if you want a particularly sad example of someone doing really basic election punditry and then trying to dress it up in statistical models. Yep, the best prediction I've seen so far is from norm's brother. https://twitter.com/natnewswatch/status/1166286671047995393
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McGavin posted:Just saw a Chinese lady handing out flyers for the People's Party. there were like two dozen of them at Metrotown station a week ago.
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Juul-Whip posted:there were like two dozen of them at Metrotown station a week ago. Proof that immigrants are stealing our jobs! The amount of press that a party with like 1% of the projected vote is getting is unfathomable. CBC in particular can’t seem to shut the gently caress about them. Maybe the ndp needs their own batshit personality to stir the pot a little bit and get this type of coverage.
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nine-gear crow posted:I wonder how much of that was them being actually lovely leaders vs. Harper's custom-built Republican-inspired attack machine polluting the airwaves with poo poo like those "Just Visiting" ads and making people think they were. I mean, the "Just Visiting" part proved mostly accurate.
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This tweet continues to age well https://twitter.com/AndrewScheer/status/862734636543332352?s=19
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Aug 28, 2019 16:34
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A well thought out oped with this image inserted in the middle for some reason: 
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Aug 28, 2019 16:42
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this gem:quote:The Remain side tells Britons that a vote for exiting the EU is akin to choosing economic and political uncertainty. Voters are led to believe there’s no other option. They must accept the bureaucratic excesses of Brussels (which even the Remain supporters can’t defend) to avoid disruption, isolation and decline. It’s a profoundly negative and simplistic vision that just happens to be wrong..
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Why is that a gem, I dont understand.
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Brexit has literally hosed the UK.
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Charles Bukowski posted:Why is that a gem, I dont understand. Because that’s exactly what happened
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Starks posted:Proof that immigrants are stealing our jobs! The NDP needs to become a right wing, pro-business party to get this type of coverage
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Remember that the Clinton campaign and mainstream liberal commentators were all salivating over the thought of Trump being the Republican nominee and in the case of the Clinton campaign they were actively trying to raise his profile in the media early in his primary campaign because they thought it was a brilliant way to ensure their victory. Even though its very bad for the country to foment these kinds of political forces it gives liberals (in the small l sense, not just the party itself) a great excuse to demand you keep supporting them even when they break their promises and govern terribly, because after all the opposite is worse. There's a reason that the Reform party's appearance coincided with a hard right turn by the federal Liberals or why in America the Reagan revolution was quickly followed by Bill Clinton throwing labour under the bus and embracing High Finance. The more horrible your enemy the less room your own supporters have to challenge your authority or hold you accountable for your betrayals.
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Juul-Whip posted:Breen Ouellette, Vancouver Centre Yeah he's dope too
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quote:However, last week, Gen. Jonathan Vance, chief of defence staff, said the military had already been talking to Mathews about some of his viewpoints. So the CF knew this guy was walking around expousing Neo-Nazi idelogies since April, at the earliest, and they didn't take any action to restrict him from anything military until he tendered his own loving resignation. quote:Mathews's boss described him as highly functional, a good worker and well read, but with some intellectual disabilities. gently caress off CBC
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"He said co-workers have heard him talk about some white nationalist ideologies, but [...] no one would describe him as racist." Either this is terrible 2+2=5 journalism or somebody should look in to those co-workers next
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"White nationalism isn't racism" - Manitobans, apparently
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He's a reservist that's not capable of hurting other people? What do people do in the military these days?
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https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/the-devastation-of-manitoba Long read about what the PCs have done in Manitoba over the last four years and probably what Manitoba is facing more of over the next five years
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vyelkin posted:"White nationalism isn't racism" - Manitobans, apparently There are a whole bunch of chuds that like that talking point. Along side "I'm not a white supremacist, I didn't say whites were better, but race mixing is bad..."
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I think people started saying that because they were forced to admit to being white nationalists to begin with, so they had to redefine what that meant. But it was good that they were confronted with that, at least.
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DariusLikewise posted:That would be incredibly ironic given the fact that it's Ford that's killing Scheers chances of winning this election I'm still mad he's not running this cycle, I wanted a Ford Bojo Trump summit and whoever the worst person in Australian politics is
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Dreylad posted:watching another country discover that yes, you can prorogue parliament whenever you like is kinda fun I will admit to a certain amount of meanspirited cackling earlier, yes.
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Dreylad posted:watching another country discover that yes, you can prorogue parliament whenever you like is kinda fun More specifically, whenever the Queen likes.
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Dreylad posted:watching another country discover that yes, you can prorogue parliament whenever you like is kinda fun It's crazy that it's so easy to break a system where most of the rules are based upon tradition and breaking the rules that are concrete and written down have no consequences until you have to run for re-election and even then
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Helsing posted:More specifically, whenever the Queen likes. I mean the last time it happened in Britain, from what I understand, is that the king who did it whenever he liked got a pretty severe haircut
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Was it 2008 when Harper lost a no confidence vote but it was a rider attached to another bill so it didn't count? Parliament is a mess.
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