Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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Kosumo: Apr 9, 2016

If they really think the lawsuit is that bad they will have to totally change engine - it's also going to show alot of the lies and deceptive practices that Chris Roberts has built this holy thing on.

The faithful will still have faith.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 22:22

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Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

Kosumo posted:

If they really think the lawsuit is that bad they will have to totally change engine - it's also going to show a lot of the lies and deceptive practices that Chris Roberts has built this holy thing on.

The faithful will still have faith.

Nah, they'll drag the ship down with them - there's no way they're going to take seven years' worth of CryEngine fudging and try to replicate it in Unity or whatever. The thing will just die.

You can quote the poo poo out of that.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 22:26

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

It's funny because "The lawsuit will absolutely kill the game if it goes forward" was the prediction made in this very thread when it started- almost two years ago now, I think?

This thing has always been doomed but it's doomed on such a long timeline that most backers can go years without thinking about it. Kind of like climate change except much much stupider.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 22:30

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

# ? Aug 30, 2019 22:40

Sample_text: Apr 28, 2018; by VideoGames

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dZZhIul938

It's happening space nerds!

Randy please stop watching squirt porn and don't gently caress this release up

# ? Aug 30, 2019 22:43

Contingency: Jun 2, 2007; MURDERER

Kosumo posted:

If they really think the lawsuit is that bad they will have to totally change engine - it's also going to show alot of the lies and deceptive practices that Chris Roberts has built this holy thing on.

The faithful will still have faith.

You're all willfully blind.
For years, Chris Roberts has known that his true vision couldn't be realized with CryEngine. Once he got enough backer support, he tried to escape CryTek's clutches only to have them turn around and sue him. For years, CIG has been in limbo, awaiting the day they could finally move to a working engine. Chris Roberts made a difficult decision--the only way to stop CryTek from taking everything is not to release anything. Ships were sold, yes, but as long as they weren't in game, CryTek didn't have standing. ToS changes stating backers weren't buying assets, only development? Working towards the objective--every dollar that is sent to CIG without obligation or accountability is a dollar that can stay within CIG. It has been incredibly hard for the Roberts family, facing ridicule for spending millions of dev dollars on mocap, pipelines, and Hollywood actors. In a mere 30 months, the lawsuit with CryTek will be settled, and development of Star Citizen can truly begin. Answer the Call 2024 at the Epic Games Store, the exclusive vendor of Squadron 42.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 22:44

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Sarsapariller posted:

It's funny because "The lawsuit will absolutely kill the game if it goes forward" was the prediction made in this very thread when it started- almost two years ago now, I think?

This thing has always been doomed but it's doomed on such a long timeline that most backers can go years without thinking about it. Kind of like climate change except much much stupider.

The thing is that the only way this project can die is if some outside influence forces it to do so. Otherwise there are thousands of fools willing to fund it as long as it doesn't release.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 22:49

Rotten Red Rod: Mar 5, 2002

skeletors_condom posted:

I am somewhat skeptical of TheAgent's rumor about an engine switch.

IMO it's not in crobo's financial interest to switch engines. There is some level of risk that this could result in a premature end of the project. With the current trajectory Crobo and his family can continue milking true believers for at least another 2 years (perhaps even more?).

They'll HAVE to if Crytech wins the lawsuit. Being prepared for that possibility, no matter how slim, is probably a good idea.

Sample_text posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dZZhIul938

It's happening space nerds!

Randy please stop watching squirt porn and don't gently caress this release up

What, no song from Yes? gently caress that.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 22:52

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

Sarsapariller posted:

Star Citizen. Kind of like climate change except much much stupider.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:01

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

TheAgent posted:

hello

after many, many assurances that the crytek lawsuit would not proceed, chris & co are scrambling (no elaboration)

emails, contracts, recorded conversations and biz licences are being sent for review (legal review?)

Erin "extremely nervous" about outcome, although showing a "carefree attitude" around the office

"I know for a fact he doesn't want another Gizmondo on his hands. Once was enough."

aegis backer event: "Our goal was to be totally positive. We nailed it."

production on certain parts of the game are stopped completely until legal avenues are resolved

mostly that means engine and server improvements

this halt is scheduled to begin 9/3, but employees have known about it for some time

engine switch most likely in the cards, deep discussions about stadia/UE4 ongoing

"Anything made or built with CryEngine would be discarded and re-coded." including animations, models, maps, client and server side code, etc

"We'd have to redo a lot of work. It'd be worth it, because it's the only way forward."

Oh god I think I parped

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:04

Sample_text: Apr 28, 2018; by VideoGames

Rotten Red Rod posted:

What, no song from Yes? gently caress that.

But hey, you'll have a mobile version. You know.... for the phone you have, right?

On the Star Citizen front, while I won't pop the champagne over the backers waking up, I will absolutely feel schadenfreude over the Twitch shills going through the "pivot phase", where they awkwardly try to change their games and "re-brand" while shifting uncomfortably in their chairs when someone asks "Hey didn't you use to play Star Citizen?"

Seriously, toxic fanboys I can understand and empathize with to a certain point , but the fake enthusiasm , enforced positivity shills seeing their Twitch careers crap after plugging this scam for so long...

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:08

skeletors_condom: Jul 21, 2017

Beet Wagon posted:

Was Chris Roberts in Jeffery Epstein's Black Book?

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:14

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVAryZ0GLwE

Holy poo poo. I hope Crobear sees this :grin:

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:19

zcrow: May 6, 2014; Ah.. yeah... um... tup tup tup tup tup.. this is something we'll add down the line

Maltloaf posted:

Don't know if you all missed this from the interior 890 screenshots a few pages back, but those book titles man, someone is on point.

EASY MARK

I'm like, a million pages back. But what loving idiot kind of super rich yacht owner stacks multiple copies of the same drat rear end book in their stupid yacht?

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:22

Nyast: Nov 14, 2017; BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

Agony Aunt posted:

Not entirely sure, but IIRC, when CIG were boasting about 64bit or something like that a few years ago, it was already implemented in the then new version of CryEngine.

There again, CIG boasted about adding inverse kinematics into StarEngine years ago, when it actually was already part of the version of CryEngine they were using.

Man, they boasted about implementing render to texture years ago. Imagine that, a tech standard to render APIs like OpenGL and DirectX a decade ago.. and they were boasting about it.

Thinking about it, this might have been the turning point for me: the moment I woke up and realized "why are they trying to pass out such basic tech, that all video game companies in the world have been using for a decade, like it's never been done before" ?

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:23

Grubby Hobo: Feb 13, 2018; There's something else about bears not many people know. If a bear gets hooked on the taste of crowdfunding, it becomes a man-killer. He'll go on a rampage and has to be destroyed. And that's why you should never hug a bear.

Fidelitious posted:

I'm actually kind of surprised that they would be stressing out over the lawsuit. It's a money burner sure, but Crytek's case looks really weak from my uneducated perspective.

They know what's in the discovery they're being forced to provide.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:28

zcrow: May 6, 2014; Ah.. yeah... um... tup tup tup tup tup.. this is something we'll add down the line

rePool posted:

He's trolling right?

Gio is a coward confirmed.

he's also a fat POS. j/s

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:29

Grubby Hobo: Feb 13, 2018; There's something else about bears not many people know. If a bear gets hooked on the taste of crowdfunding, it becomes a man-killer. He'll go on a rampage and has to be destroyed. And that's why you should never hug a bear.

Would it be ungracious to point out that like a million people pointed and laughed when CI(G) said they were going to build a space MMO on CryEngine?

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:30

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/cxnpjd/362_to_400_progress_watch_update_20190830_the_big/

:tif:

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:31

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

Quavers posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVAryZ0GLwE

Holy poo poo. I hope Crobear sees this

Honestly I'm not a big fan of the whole "this is how you know you're in South Kensington/Queens/Fallowfield/The Rocks" etc.

Sure, cities have identifiable areas but they're no way as clearly delimited as what the devs are talking about here.

100% ruined for me.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:43

SabinBlitz: May 19, 2015; Firm believer that muscles conquers all

Holy poo poo. You can invest in HomeWorld 3 stock

https://www.fig.co/campaigns/homeworld3

At $500! Come on Citizens this is a screaming deal!

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:48

IncredibleIgloo: Feb 17, 2011

Jonny Shiloh posted:

https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/cxnpjd/362_to_400_progress_watch_update_20190830_the_big/

Certainly seems like they are moving a lot of things out and don't have a whole lot of anything planned for the rest of the year.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:50

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Certainly seems like they are moving a lot of things out and don't have a whole lot of anything planned for the rest of the year.

This a perfectly reasonable thing under staggered development.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:57

Nyast: Nov 14, 2017; BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

iron buns posted:

Imagine if they actually worked like that. Half of the company working on one patch, the other half on the other. How would they get anything done?

If they share the codebase, the other half is always in the middle of development while the other one is trying to make a release. If they're working on separate branches, they would have to go through a huge merge (six months out of date!) on every release.

This. This. Totally this.

It can make sense when the works are independent, but on a large scale project, the overhead of merging and introducing brand new bugs every 3 months is going to be lol-esque.

# ? Aug 30, 2019 23:58

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

SabinBlitz posted:

Holy poo poo. You can invest in HomeWorld 3 stock

https://www.fig.co/campaigns/homeworld3

At $500! Come on Citizens this is a screaming deal!

In all honesty I'd rather do that than "Back" at an equivalent price for nothing but lovely merch.

On the other hand, their targets are insane- half a million sales is the break even point? It's a loving gearbox knockoff, it'll be lucky to hit a tenth of that. I loved Homeworld and I'm happy that (some of) the guys who were involved are still getting work, but gently caress Randy Pitchford and gently caress lukewarm reboots shoved onto kickstarter because the studio didn't want to punt the cash for them.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:03

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

Disturbing amounts of FUD on the sub. GORF vids getting actual upvotes and everything...

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:03

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Certainly seems like they are moving a lot of things out and don't have a whole lot of anything planned for the rest of the year.

Yep, alarm bells ringing.

Anyway, keep talking super fast Erin, if you keep up the tempo and especially the cadence Clive might not cotton on.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:13

Xaerael: Aug 25, 2010; Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Hello.

Star Citizen is poo poo.

Thank you for listening.

Have a memory...

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:14

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

TheAgent posted:

hello

after many, many assurances that the crytek lawsuit would not proceed, chris & co are scrambling (no elaboration)

emails, contracts, recorded conversations and biz licences are being sent for review (legal review?)

Erin "extremely nervous" about outcome, although showing a "carefree attitude" around the office

"I know for a fact he doesn't want another Gizmondo on his hands. Once was enough."

aegis backer event: "Our goal was to be totally positive. We nailed it."

production on certain parts of the game are stopped completely until legal avenues are resolved

mostly that means engine and server improvements

this halt is scheduled to begin 9/3, but employees have known about it for some time

engine switch most likely in the cards, deep discussions about stadia/UE4 ongoing

"Anything made or built with CryEngine would be discarded and re-coded." including animations, models, maps, client and server side code, etc

"We'd have to redo a lot of work. It'd be worth it, because it's the only way forward."

I'm sure this will be finished soon. 100 multi-planet systems, a galaxy at war, millions of NPCs driving a fully realised economy, capital ships to explore, land to buy, tanks to drive into battle in Vanduul systems, entire cities, secret jump routes to discover, sandworms to ride, gunfights more lethal than Call of Duty.

2024 at the very latest. Any longer and it would start to get stale.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:14

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Hello everyone, sorry to disrupt the discussion on the Agent's delicious new post, but I'm gonna share this here in addition to the sticky post I just made, just so it doesn't catch anyone by surprise:

Beet Wagon posted:

Hello friends, posters, spacemen,

I just want to give you a heads up for a change that will be happening sometime next week. After some shuffling around, and a little bit of planning, we've decided we are going to be closing the Stupid Crowdfunding Accomplishments Mausoleum and rebooting the next iteration of the Star Citizen thread in the main Games forum. We haven't nailed down exactly when this is going to happen aside from "next week at some point" but I wanted to give you as much advance notice as I could. I'm going to get an OP typed up so even if I don't have power next week one of the admins can still take care of things. Anyway if you have any questions feel free to ask me, but it should be pretty straightforward.

Frequently Asked Questions (that I just made up):

Why are we doing this?

Because the Star Citizen thread is no longer a 10,000 post a day behemoth, it doesn't really need its own dedicated moderator/subforum. Folding it back into Games will make it more accessible to people and easier to post jokes in.

What does this mean?

Uhhhhh we're moving to Games, that's pretty much it?

Okay but how does this affect my ability to laugh about $700 concept art?

It doesn't, you'll just go to the Games subforum and do it there. Maybe we'll make some new friends.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:21

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

Beet Wagon posted:

Hello everyone, sorry to disrupt the discussion on the Agent's delicious new post, but I'm gonna share this here in addition to the sticky post I just made, just so it doesn't catch anyone by surprise:

Plz post all the recap & drama history in the OP...

Ok not really, but wouldn't want to lose that stuff. Is there any way to preserve? They are lols for the ages!

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:26

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Pixelate posted:

Ok but plz post all the recap & drama history in the OP...

Ok not really, but wouldn't want to lose that stuff. Is there any way to preserve? They are lols for the ages!

I think everything is getting archived but I will try and cover as much of the big stuff as I can. The last time we rebooted the thread everybody posted their favorite Star Citizen moments too, so that should help.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:28

monkeytek: Jun 8, 2010; It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Beet Wagon posted:

Hello everyone, sorry to disrupt the discussion on the Agent's delicious new post, but I'm gonna share this here in addition to the sticky post I just made, just so it doesn't catch anyone by surprise:

But, but, we will lose our sense of entitlement!

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:28

Nyast: Nov 14, 2017; BLAZING AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT

skeletors_condom posted:

I am somewhat skeptical of TheAgent's rumor about an engine switch.

IMO it's not in crobo's financial interest to switch engines. There is some level of risk that this could result in a premature end of the project. With the current trajectory Crobo and his family can continue milking true believers for at least another 2 years (perhaps even more?).

I don't believe it either.

I mean, not saying he's lying - I think they could certainly be discussing it and throwing ideas in the air. But I don't believe they would really, actually, do it. They'd lose good faith from a lot of their hardcore backers and whales IMO. Plus they can't afford other significant delays to SQ42 and money will be running out. No way in hell they're switching engines again.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:28

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Beet Wagon posted:

Hello everyone, sorry to disrupt the discussion on the Agent's delicious new post, but I'm gonna share this here in addition to the sticky post I just made, just so it doesn't catch anyone by surprise:

Can we get to page 6665 first?

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:28

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

Beet Wagon posted:

Hello everyone, sorry to disrupt the discussion on the Agent's delicious new post, but I'm gonna share this here in addition to the sticky post I just made, just so it doesn't catch anyone by surprise:

Well thank you very loving much.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:31

rePool: Apr 18, 2019; Undercover Goon.

So long and thanks for all the fish

Beet Wagon posted:

Hello everyone, sorry to disrupt the discussion on the Agent's delicious new post, but I'm gonna share this here in addition to the sticky post I just made, just so it doesn't catch anyone by surprise:

Ok, before I lose my oportunity. I feel stupid asking because I originally started reading this thread about 300,000 pages in.

...
...

Who is MoMa? I never asked, figured I'd eventually find out as I did about THAT Kazan, but I must know!

Oh, and be safe to everyone in Florida. Without doxing my family, we're north of Tampa so we may be safe in the area we like to call the umbrella but I hope everyone remains safe and hope no one leaves their drat animals behind.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:33

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

MoMA is Toast, everyone knows that

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:35

Pharohman777: Jan 14, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

I can't wait for all the people who say variations of 'What' when they see the years of stupidity goons have documented and post in the new thread.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:35

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skeletors_condom: Jul 21, 2017

Beet Wagon posted:

Hello everyone, sorry to disrupt the discussion on the Agent's delicious new post, but I'm gonna share this here in addition to the sticky post I just made, just so it doesn't catch anyone by surprise:

We need to make a god-like a OP. An OP to end all OPs. The BDOPE if you will.

# ? Aug 31, 2019 00:36

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