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https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1167585770078531584
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Aug 31, 2019 00:54
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Two spectres just from the gem is sick
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Aug 31, 2019 01:00
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Yeah but if the cap is 80 @ level 20 you need to get to gem level 24 to have the same old spectres. Of course you can also theoretically push it further, and now Empower is real good for them.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:02
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Wait; I know you can swap most gems in/out of a Raise Spectres link without despawning the spectres (like if you want to trade GMP for Slower Projectiles for bossing or whatever), how would that interact with Empower? Or gear swapping anything that changed the level of the Raise Spectres gem?
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Aug 31, 2019 01:02
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You can't snapshot it, so it'll either downscale immediately without despawning or just straight up despawn.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:03
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Vasudus posted:Yeah but if the cap is 80 @ level 20 you need to get to gem level 24 to have the same old spectres. Of course you can also theoretically push it further, and now Empower is real good for them. +1 from level 21, +2 from necro ascendancy and +3 from empower means you'll get level 86 spectres without having to bum ilvl 84 areas from people, and since your desecrate pool will spawn your spectres you no longer have to go on a long pilgrimage to get the boys back. And there could more sources of +all minion gems that will fit into builds. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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Aug 31, 2019 01:10
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I wish empower support would just leave already.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:15
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Cao Ni Ma posted:loling at necro shocking harder than elementalist does shock effect work on generic shock because if so lol
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Aug 31, 2019 01:21
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lamentable dustman posted:does shock effect work on generic shock because if so lol Yep. Stack 150% increased shock effect and ailment effect and you'll have 50% increased damage taken on anything.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:29
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Fister Roboto posted:Yep. Stack 150% increased shock effect and ailment effect and you'll have 50% increased damage taken on anything. That's a bit difficult though.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:34
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Could always get an Eternal Empire jewel for increased effect nodes.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:36
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There's the focus mod for +100% increased ailment effect during focus as well.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:39
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Common GGG let me summon 2-3 swarms of bees with a single cast without echo or a helmet enchant
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Aug 31, 2019 01:50
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:+1 from level 21, +2 from necro ascendancy and +3 from empower means you'll get level 86 spectres without having to bum ilvl 84 areas from people, and since your desecrate pool will spawn your spectres you no longer have to go on a long pilgrimage to get the boys back. tbh the increased convenience alone makes this a positive change, even if it's bad for the tippy top players
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Aug 31, 2019 01:53
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Common GGG let me summon 2-3 swarms of bees with a single cast without echo or a helmet enchant Cast On Bees Support
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Aug 31, 2019 01:56
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McFrugal posted:That's a bit difficult though. Yeah for sure, but you don't have to stack it anywhere near that high for it to be good. 50% is just the cap on shock.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:59
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I wonder if Spectres will be underleveled during the Acts now. The most fun poo poo was bringing your second character into a Lab you ran with the first character, so you can have Spectres that are 10 levels above the zone you're in, wrecking everything.
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Aug 31, 2019 02:23
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Welp with all these changes, my stupid build was fun while it last, I only wish I had more time to play this season.
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Aug 31, 2019 02:54
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I've been trying hard to resist the urge to do a zombies build starter but it's looking like I'm gonna do a zombies build starter
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Aug 31, 2019 03:02
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yay i got 24 challenges
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Aug 31, 2019 03:05
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Spectres are going to have to be higher level since you'll be missing a 100% damage ascendancy.
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Aug 31, 2019 03:51
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saintonan posted:Spectres are going to have to be higher level since you'll be missing a 100% damage ascendancy. Wasn't that increased damage and now you get 20% more damage so they shouldn't be insanely far off?
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Aug 31, 2019 03:55
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That was life. It was 100% increased life, now there's 20% more. You can get 10% inc damage taken via plaguebringer but tbh I don't remember spectres having a problem in the damage department. Also assuming they didn't change death attunement then you have one more spectre than before.
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Aug 31, 2019 04:01
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MMF Freeway posted:That was life. It was 100% increased life, now there's 20% more. You can get 10% inc damage taken via plaguebringer but tbh I don't remember spectres having a problem in the damage department. Also assuming they didn't change death attunement then you have one more spectre than before. Oh yes I misremembered, thank you! I still assume it'll math out stronger than before at the upper end.
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Aug 31, 2019 04:19
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Cao Ni Ma posted:loling at necro shocking harder than elementalist i really really really wish they'd get rid of the swapping bonus stuff on elementalist. just give me two nodes and make the extra spell damage and the extra aoe mutually exclusive
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Aug 31, 2019 04:37
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Larry Parrish posted:i really really really wish they'd get rid of the swapping bonus stuff on elementalist. just give me two nodes and make the extra spell damage and the extra aoe mutually exclusive or: give me both, at once
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Aug 31, 2019 04:56
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I wonder if this will make Soul's Wick temporary-spectre builds worth playing with. Whatever random trash mobs you raise will at least get boosted to the level cap now, though they might still have bad ai or weak skills.
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Aug 31, 2019 05:05
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Arrhythmia posted:or: give me both, at once that would be ideal but I think the whole reason it's the way it is is because they thought +75% aoe and spell damage was too strong for an ascendancy node
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Aug 31, 2019 05:11
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I snagged HeraldOfAssbeatery for a probable hoaggernaut (which was already taken) or some flavor of hoagger, I'm pretty proud of it  my backup is FeralHoag 
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Aug 31, 2019 05:59
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:I wonder if this will make Soul's Wick temporary-spectre builds worth playing with. Whatever random trash mobs you raise will at least get boosted to the level cap now, though they might still have bad ai or weak skills. A lot of monsters would do okay if you just got them moving fast enough, and thankfully we did get a new skill gem for that. Maybe it'll be viable! ...except for bosses. Well, wait, you can use Desecrate there. (don't use unearth the skeleton archers are terrible)
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Aug 31, 2019 06:56
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:I wonder if this will make Soul's Wick temporary-spectre builds worth playing with. Whatever random trash mobs you raise will at least get boosted to the level cap now, though they might still have bad ai or weak skills. spectres really seem shine with proper support gems for the types of skills the monster uses, so random spectres seems bad from that angle? unless there are 4 generally good options to toss in with empower maybe?
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Aug 31, 2019 07:34
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Tenkaris posted:spectres really seem shine with proper support gems for the types of skills the monster uses, so random spectres seems bad from that angle? There are a lot more general minion damage gems now. You've got minion damage, feeding frenzy, deathmark, maaaybe meatshield as well, plus empower. That's 5 supports right there, assuming their damage bonuses are decent.
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Aug 31, 2019 07:45
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The best Soul's Wick build was Spectrenate Dead and that's useless now because it relied on raising Spectres from level 95 Unearth corpses and you'll never be able to raise them that high anymore. Maybe there's some other way to break it but that was the only kinda function build I've seen with Wick.
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Aug 31, 2019 08:07
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im really hoping the aggressive ai thing makes SRS actually work instead of the current thing where it mostly works but sometimes they get confused and move back and forth between two mobs without ever attacking. then i just gotta figure a way to make a spellcast loop that triggers srs. or maybe just be a nerd and do CWC
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Aug 31, 2019 08:45
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Just hardcast them with the insanely expensive Aukuna's Will loop that gives you like 300% cast speed.
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Aug 31, 2019 10:16
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:violate dead That's not a very nice thing to do
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Aug 31, 2019 10:35
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Larry Parrish posted:im really hoping the aggressive ai thing makes SRS actually work instead of the current thing where it mostly works but sometimes they get confused and move back and forth between two mobs without ever attacking. then i just gotta figure a way to make a spellcast loop that triggers srs. or maybe just be a nerd and do CWC Honestly the best way Ive seen it being done is to have spell echo and the extra summon helmet which would occasionally proc a cast with 6 skulls/bees. SRS can be fixed with better AI, more movement speed and hopefully the ability to cast multiples at once without using spell echo. The gem links and passive tree probably solves the first 2 problems. I'll take a hit in top end single target damage if it means I can summon them to full quantity more easily.
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Aug 31, 2019 13:53
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its one week till next league and i'm out of games to play, which means it's time to play The Sims https://poe.house and https://hideoutshowcase.com are sites where you can check out poe hideout layouts and download them for import and of course all the threads at https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/556 i think poe.house has a little more functionality but unfortunately the dev is dropping it the only thing i really wish is that the hideout owners would feature prominently how far apart the masters are from each other, the waypoint, the map device, and the stash, since i don't want to bother with a beautiful hideout if it ends up making the gameplay loop really annoying anyways. yall got any favorite hideouts? https://poe.house/hideout/zcmR2X32 this one turns catarina's hideout into a re-creation of the Rogue Encampment from Diablo II. it's pretty simple and straightforward, and i can't get enough of that nostalgia factor
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Aug 31, 2019 14:33
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some of these really are ridiculously gorgeous though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3KhM-NB60Q https://hideoutshowcase.com/hideout/show/655 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbC0qR_L2B4 https://hideoutshowcase.com/hideout/show/94/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Eb9fo3x2w https://hideoutshowcase.com/hideout/show/346
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Aug 31, 2019 14:41
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my favorite hideout is the completely barren and well lit one with all the masters and relevant objects crammed into the smallest useable space around the waypoint
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Aug 31, 2019 14:50
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