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pookel posted:As an American I'm not sure if this is a true thing or a racial stereotype I heard - is it also accurate that Aboriginal Australians culturally have a very hard time coping with incarceration? Or is that more of a thing for those who have been raised in a traditional lifestyle? It's more that the cops will take the first excuse to torture and murder nonwhite people.
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pookel posted:As an American I'm not sure if this is a true thing or a racial stereotype I heard - is it also accurate that Aboriginal Australians culturally have a very hard time coping with incarceration? Or is that more of a thing for those who have been raised in a traditional lifestyle? I mean, I don't know many people that love incarceration.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I mean, I don't know many people that love incarceration. Joe Arpaio, but not in the sense you mean.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I mean, I don't know many people that love incarceration.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's more that the cops will take the first excuse to torture and murder nonwhite people. 
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pookel posted:Well, right, but I have heard it said that Aboriginal people who grew up in the wide open spaces of the Outback suffered especially in indoor confinement, but I didn't know if that was just paternalism and/or something that's not true in the modern era. Or a way of glossing over other reasons it might be worse for indigenous people (like, police brutality + racism). Well, people's tolerance for open spaces vs enclosed is as variable as humanity itself. There's really no reason for it to be different for that particular ethnic group. Sure, there might be some environmental aspects but I doubt it'd be anything major especially since I'm sure they live like other people on that continent nowaday.
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pookel posted:Well, right, but I have heard it said that Aboriginal people who grew up in the wide open spaces of the Outback suffered especially in indoor confinement, but I didn't know if that was just paternalism and/or something that's not true in the modern era. Or a way of glossing over other reasons it might be worse for indigenous people (like, police brutality + racism). I’m going to go for the second one there.
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pookel posted:Well, right, but I have heard it said that Aboriginal people who grew up in the wide open spaces of the Outback suffered especially in indoor confinement, but I didn't know if that was just paternalism and/or something that's not true in the modern era. Or a way of glossing over other reasons it might be worse for indigenous people (like, police brutality + racism). Whenever you think, "I've heard this said," make sure you remember by whom it was said. That particular anecdote is along the same racist lines as that chart that said non-white people don't hurt the same.
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PetraCore posted:So he was aware of the dangers he was bringing to them but failed to do the research and believe the research that he'd still be a danger even if vaccinated? drat. I am. gently caress that guy. He's very lucky the only thing that happened is him getting shot before he interacted with anybody, instead of him sweeping in and accidentally killing an entire indigenous population by introducing a disease to them via colonial hubris That he's only remembered as that dumb guy who killed himself, and not That Dumb Guy who Killed The Sentinelese, is the best he could have hoped for Respect for the dead is a boomer politeness that should die with them EDIT: autocorrect StrangersInTheNight has a new favorite as of 19:15 on Aug 28, 2019 |
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Agreed, and not only gently caress that guy but I highly doubt he'd be upset if he killed some of them via disease. It's much more likely that he'd think it was a gift from his rear end in a top hat verision of God. He was a douche and I hope they smeared his dumb rear end all over the beach.
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pookel posted:As an American I'm not sure if this is a true thing or a racial stereotype I heard - is it also accurate that Aboriginal Australians culturally have a very hard time coping with incarceration? Or is that more of a thing for those who have been raised in a traditional lifestyle? I think a big misconception is that aboriginal people are all the same across Australia, there are pretty significant differences between the peoples of different areas. And this now continues with different people's getting different access to health care or work etc depending mainly on geographic location. Torres Strait Islanders have big differences as well. So I am not an expert and couldn't generalize, but I did work in a few places in far north QLD, and the impression I got was the people there weren't too concerned about it? Like a lot of the other people locked up will be friends and family from town, and there didn't seem to be a huge social stigma around going to jail. I have seen mothers casually discussing with the police how long a sentence their teenage kids would be getting for repeat B&Es etc. I don't think anyone was necessarily happy about it but it just seemed like an accepted part of life to a certain extent. This could all be totally different with the next town over or group of people or whatever though. Also I got on well with people and could strike up conversations easily at work or the pub or whatever, but I certainly wasn't in the inside of the community so things could be different from there.
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turntabler posted:I think a big misconception is that aboriginal people are all the same across Australia, there are pretty significant differences between the peoples of different areas. And this now continues with different people's getting different access to health care or work etc depending mainly on geographic location. Torres Strait Islanders have big differences as well. I'm not Australian, just seems like that's part of how institutional racism as a whole works.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Well, people's tolerance for open spaces vs enclosed is as variable as humanity itself. There's really no reason for it to be different for that particular ethnic group. Sure, there might be some environmental aspects but I doubt it'd be anything major especially since I'm sure they live like other people on that continent nowaday. I can see it being a thing if they were living traditionally and nomadiclly because going from that to being locked in a small, enclosed cell is going to gently caress you up mentally. Its basically like inverse prairie madness or other situations when peoples living enviroments drastically change. They tend not to do well. Wasabi the J posted:Whenever you think, "I've heard this said," make sure you remember by whom it was said. Edited for clarity. I think the chart was about how they expressed and responded to pain rather than how they hurt differently. Yes those are different concepts. Telsa Cola has a new favorite as of 02:38 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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pookel posted:Well, right, but I have heard it said that Aboriginal people who grew up in the wide open spaces of the Outback suffered especially in indoor confinement, but I didn't know if that was just paternalism and/or something that's not true in the modern era. Or a way of glossing over other reasons it might be worse for indigenous people (like, police brutality + racism). It’s a handy way to deny the hosed-up-ness of the system by insisting that the psychological impact is just a personal or cultural failure to adapt. Edit to add: Telsa Cola posted:I think the chart was about how they expressed and responded to pain rather than how they hurt differently. Yes it is different. Individuals may express pain differently, but not as strictly regulated along ethnic lines as the incredibly stereotyped nonsense presented as scientific fact made it sound. And spreading ideas that Race X Does Pain Like This, But Race Y Does Pain Like THIS is extremely harmful to the well-being of individuals who are treated like these stereotypes rather than like a person. 
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Busket Posket posted:It’s a handy way to deny the hosed-up-ness of the system by insisting that the psychological impact is just a personal or cultural failure to adapt. Look, I grew up watching WWF, so I know how this ethnic pain stuff works. If a white guy* headbutts a black guy, the white guy gets hurt. If two black guys headbutt each other, nothing happens and they have a confused staredown. If anyone but a Samoan headbutts a Samoan, they get hurt. If a Samoan headbutts a Samoan, whoever gives the headbutt is slightly more dazed than the guy on the receiving end, who must immediately follow up with a headbutt of his own. This continues until interrupted by outside forces or the match time limit. If two undazed Samoans headbutt each other simultaneously, the shockwave generated will damage the ring structure, pop the eardrums of anyone in a 75' radius, and kill or seriously injure any refs, valets, or managers in the ring at the time. *Hillbillies classify as having black guys when evaluating headbutt pain, but only if they're wearing overalls with no shirt, no shoes or boots, or both at the time.
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SomethingAwful Goons ◽️ They may pick a sacred number (69, 420) when asked to rate pain on a numerical pain scale.
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Azathoth posted:Look, I grew up watching WWF, so I know how this ethnic pain stuff works. What about Asian dudes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBUN_ezODcw
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Aesop Poprock posted:What about Asian dudes they repeatedly slam their rear end on your chest until you cough up blood
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Busket Posket posted:It’s a handy way to deny the hosed-up-ness of the system by insisting that the psychological impact is just a personal or cultural failure to adapt. Yea I was saying the chart was still bullshit but the wording used by the other poster is talking about something entirely different. Pain is an entirely different concept then hurt. I guess my wording was ambiguous so my bad. Telsa Cola has a new favorite as of 02:46 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:What about Asian dudes The Shibata headbutt match, and his subsequent hospitalization for brain bleeding and paralysis among other issues, was absolutely horrible.
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Aesop Poprock posted:What about Asian dudes In the WWF, they'll pretend to headbutt you, but at the last second they'll throw sand in the face or spit something at them while their equally sneaky manager distracts the ref. One of the announcers will then call it a "Pearl Harbor job" and yell at the ref for not seeing it. In Japan, whoever gets headbutted will fly into a nearby shark tank, where he will headbutt the sharks for a while. After climbing out, he will then fashion a makeshift headband out of some spare Barb wire that just happens to be laying around. Every headbutt will be stiff as gently caress.
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This is the sort of thing I find the most disturbing. Not the individual who goes above and beyond with regards to cruelty but the system working towards completely dehumanising people. We really are the worst and Trump can't nuke the planet fast enough.The Guardian posted:Intellectually disabled man held in solitary confinement for six years in 'outrageous' case
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Inceltown posted:This is the sort of thing I find the most disturbing. Not the individual who goes above and beyond with regards to cruelty but the system working towards completely dehumanising people. We really are the worst and Trump can't nuke the planet fast enough. “Widespread legislative non-compliance” is a breathtakingly weasel-y way to say “they broke a whole bunch of laws for a long time.”
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This is the most horrifying thing on this entire page and it just got glossed over. gently caress ICE.
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A one year old baby is found crawling on a roadside in Fiji. Nearby, five members of her family lie dead: a married couple in their 50s/60s, their daughter, and her two older children. The family had been on holiday in Fiji. Post mortem results show they had been poisoned by a toxin. Then a friend of theirs is brought in for questioning https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/11...them-many-times
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https://twitter.com/GenevieveAlison/status/1168329812567453697 Internet edgelord and Jaymes Todd followed beloved comedian Eurydice Dixon for 5km before raping and murdering her for the fact she was a funny woman. In true shitbag solidarity a memorial for Eurydice was trashed by someone else within a day of being put together.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Yeah, there are reasons I quit Christianity. Some of the beliefs make no loving sense or make God sound like kind of a dick. One of them is "OK, so if Jesus is the only way to Heaven, then what about everybody that died before Jesus was born?" The answer to that is "Jews get in too." Which of course then leads to the question about "what about all the people who weren't Jews or the people who came before Jews? There haven't been Jews forever and their culture came from various Semitic tribes who weren't Jews at all." If you read the Old and New Testaments with a critical eye, one perfectly reasonable conclusion you could come to is that God is a monster. This is why the concept of the Demiurge slipped into Christianity for a while. The God of the Bible was so lovely that he couldn’t possibly be the supreme being. What does God need with a starship?
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Bertrand Hustle posted:This is the most horrifying thing on this entire page and it just got glossed over. gently caress ICE. I read it, and then I felt really lovely afterwards. I don’t know what else to say, other than that I would tacitly approve of the actions of an individual or group executing a jailbreak/rescue operation on one of the concentration camps.
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Unnerving story pop quiz: During the early post-WWII period of the cold war, the US Department of Defense, in collaboration with other government agencies, launched a program codenamed Project SUNSHINE. What was Project SUNSHINE? A: With the advent of biological agents as potential weapons, the US Air Force (newly established as its own branch of the military in 1947) worked with the CDC to test the effects of intense ultraviolet light on known microorganisms in the upper atmosphere; these bacteria and parasites were then released at test sites on islands in the Pacific Ocean, with one strain of bacteria becoming part of the US biological weaponry arsenal after it was found to be nearly 100% fatal to livestock and primates used as test subjects. A repeat of the test was performed on Bikini Atoll, proving its virulence and mortality rate shortly before operation IVY MIKE, the first test of the newly developed hydrogen bomb, which both proved that the bomb worked and sterilized the atoll after the gruesome test. B: After observing the effects of radiation on humans after nuclear attacks ranging from increased risk of cancer to the scarred, scaly-skinned, eyeless people colloquially called "ant-walking alligators" by more fortunate survivors of the Atomic Bombings in Japan, the US Atomic Energy Commission (established in 1946 after nuclear weapons and power generation were proven to be viable) tested the accumulation of radioisotopes in human tissue and bone after purchasing approximately 1500 corpses, mostly of infants and children, without the knowledge or consent of family members. While most corpses were returned to families for funeral services, family members were prevented from touching or viewing the bodies to conceal the fact that the testing focused on limbs and many were sent back without legs. C: Following an analysis of the 1815 "Year Without A Summer" that found the likely cause was a Volcanic Winter produced by a massive eruption, the United States Weather Bureau (renamed the National Weather Service in 1970) participated in Operation Plowshare, which researched peaceful applications of nuclear weapons to mitigate the effects of a major volcanic eruption, nuclear winter, or large scale asteroid impact. Mutated staple crops including wheat and corn were bred in shaded areas around unshielded research reactors to use gamma radiation rather than visible light for photosynthesis, but could not be made commercially available due to high crop failure rates from off-target mutations. Bertrand Hustle posted:This is the most horrifying thing on this entire page and it just got glossed over. gently caress ICE. GWBBQ has a new favorite as of 04:18 on Sep 2, 2019 |
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GWBBQ posted:Unnerving story pop quiz: During the early post-WWII period of the cold war, the US Department of Defense, in collaboration with other government agencies, launched a program codenamed Project SUNSHINE. quote:C: Following an analysis of the 1815 "Year Without A Summer" that found the likely cause was a Volcanic Winter produced by a massive eruption, the United States Weather Bureau (renamed the National Weather Service in 1970) participated in Operation Plowshare, which researched peaceful applications of nuclear weapons to mitigate the effects of a major volcanic eruption, nuclear winter, or large scale asteroid impact. Mutated staple crops including wheat and corn were bred in shaded areas around unshielded research reactors to use gamma radiation rather than visible light for photosynthesis, but could not be made commercially available due to high crop failure rates from off-target mutations.
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Inceltown posted:https://twitter.com/GenevieveAlison/status/1168329812567453697 Every time I foolishly think that I may be marginally safer due to my constant hypervigilance and neurotic quadruple-checking of where my friends are (plus constantly letting them know where I am), another story like this pops up to remind me that it only takes one violent dude imagining I’m his type to make it all worthless. I just want the prototype Iron Man suit to wear at all times please.
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