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So I'm seeing a lot of sword of light and shadow in modern, where in legacy fire and ice is the norm. What's the reason for that?
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Some of it definitely has to do with path to exile and fatal push being the two main removal spells in modern
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Aug 31, 2019 13:02
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teddust posted:So I'm seeing a lot of sword of light and shadow in modern, where in legacy fire and ice is the norm. What's the reason for that? Common removal types in the meta. But who the gently caress knows what the meta is after the B&R shakeup? Efb
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Aug 31, 2019 13:04
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uggy posted:Some of it definitely has to do with path to exile and fatal push being the two main removal spells in modern Looking at what they published in the 5-0s there was more Batterskull and fire and ice. You have the removal lottery with war and peace, sinew and steel, and light and shadow. There isn't a dominant enough color in modern to get it right every time, especially when there are many colorless decks as well.
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Aug 31, 2019 13:07
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Lot of people want to play with stoneforge which means lot of people want to play with path which means you want protection from path. I think whether you play the white/black sword or white/red sword prob comes down to which effects you'd rather proc
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Aug 31, 2019 13:10
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Drawing a card and dealing damage are the two greatest pleasures in magic, so I'd always play with fire and ice first personally
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Aug 31, 2019 13:13
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mandatory lesbian posted:Drawing a card and dealing damage are the two greatest pleasures in magic, so I'd always play with fire and ice first personally fire and ice is so good
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Aug 31, 2019 13:14
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On Vs Live Dylan Donegan was explaining that Fire and ice is good if you don't have so much cars advantage in your deck while Feast and Famine is better if you have countermagic since you can play something then untap your lands. They said War and Peace is good for aggro I think? They thought Light and Shadow was worse than those three.
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Aug 31, 2019 13:40
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Light and Shadow is good in grindy matchups since you can get back creatures from your graveyard and gain life. Plus it's pseudo protection from red if the creature you equip it to have at least 2 toughness.
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Aug 31, 2019 13:52
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smertrioslol posted:Got a list? I’m assuming lightning helix is played over smiting helix now that faithless looting is gone and dreadhorde arcanist gets swole with a sword. Which sucks, cause I don’t have lightning helix. https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/Owof6HBFHG That's this list and then another variant he played last night apparently: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/mnz8aIk2L
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Aug 31, 2019 14:24
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teddust posted:So I'm seeing a lot of sword of light and shadow in modern, where in legacy fire and ice is the norm. What's the reason for that? True-Name.
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suicidesteve posted:True-Name. Delver too!
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Aug 31, 2019 16:03
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Turns out I've had two swords of fire and ice sitting in my closet for years. Having never sold cards before, is my best bet for selling these just calling my LGS and seeing if they'll buy them?
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Aug 31, 2019 16:10
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ptroll posted:Turns out I've had two swords of fire and ice sitting in my closet for years. Having never sold cards before, is my best bet for selling these just calling my LGS and seeing if they'll buy them? Sell them to goons in this thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3679632
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Aug 31, 2019 17:04
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There's an Elementals deck doing battle with Esper Control on the SCG stream currently. Turns out that Harbinger of Flame + Risen Reef is just a demonic tutor for any elemental you want.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:05
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MrBling posted:There's an Elementals deck doing battle with Esper Control on the SCG stream currently. You mean flamekin harbinger?
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Aug 31, 2019 17:18
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yeah that one. Elemental Hamburger.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:21
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GoutPatrol posted:Looking at what they published in the 5-0s there was more Batterskull and fire and ice. You have the removal lottery with war and peace, sinew and steel, and light and shadow. There isn't a dominant enough color in modern to get it right every time, especially when there are many colorless decks as well. The 5-0s aren't a good source for this. If someone 5-0d with a similar deck with a different equipment package it wouldn't show up.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:44
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neaden posted:The 5-0s aren't a good source for this. If someone 5-0d with a similar deck with a different equipment package it wouldn't show up. Thank god for data obfuscation!
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Aug 31, 2019 17:51
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Watching this second round match at SCG with stone blade v whirza and, uh Bring back hogaak
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Aug 31, 2019 18:09
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this looks like good fun magic as richard garfield intended it
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Aug 31, 2019 18:11
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Jabor posted:this looks like good fun magic as richard garfield intended it Yo ante your volcanic island. I'll ante my saber ants.
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Aug 31, 2019 19:06
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 I loving love Omni draft. 4-0 with this pile.
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Aug 31, 2019 19:16
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You guys being against fetches will never stop being funny. They aren't ever going away. They sell too many packs. Deal with it. 
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Aug 31, 2019 20:34
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Sickening posted:You guys being against fetches will never stop being funny. They aren't ever going away. They sell too many packs. Deal with it. well they don't sell many packs when they don't bother putting the loving things in packs
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Aug 31, 2019 20:41
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Hellsau posted:well they don't sell many packs when they don't bother putting the loving things in packs We are due a printing for sure, but the last set wasn't technically that long ago. I am sure an exec somewhere is looking for the next big paper cash register and printing fetches is always that.
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Aug 31, 2019 20:48
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I don't think a card set they've only sold in five sets (Onslaught, Khans, Fate for originals, Zendikar and MM2017 for enemy) are exactly bank cards Wizards is intending to print money on. Occasionally you get a pack boom but these days notable reprints are more likely to sell supplementary product then booster packs. At the very least, I suspect classic Fetches will never be reprinted within the same Standard as any dual-land with basic types again, because they too remember Tarkir/Zendikar standard.
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Aug 31, 2019 20:50
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Sickening posted:You guys being against fetches will never stop being funny. They aren't ever going away. They sell too many packs. Deal with it. Can you try posting without being a big ol’ fuckwad about it every once in a while? How many sets have Shocks been in at this point? Is it 8?
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Aug 31, 2019 20:53
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i was hoping we’d get at least a couple of teaser spoilers this weekend. come on WOTC!!! Feed the maw!!!
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Aug 31, 2019 21:09
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TheKingofSprings posted:Can you try posting without being a big ol’ fuckwad about it every once in a while? The shocks were in each ravnica block, not counting expeditions.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Can you try posting without being a big ol’ fuckwad about it every once in a while? As long as you are a big ol' whiny poo poo about it you might as well deal with that too. 3 for shocks vs 2 for fetches. The big difference is that WOTC chose to juice us with a masters set printing instead of standard. Sickening fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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Aug 31, 2019 21:45
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:i was hoping we’d get at least a couple of teaser spoilers this weekend. come on WOTC!!! Feed the maw!!! Isn't it PAX this weekend? We should get a few spoilers when Wizards does their PAX panel.
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Aug 31, 2019 21:48
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Kjermzs posted:
Thanks for the reminder! Combo drafting   Angelic Gift + Portal of Sanctuary is a hoser, even moreso with Manifold Key and Season of Growth. Do not attempt unless you have a Loaming Shaman for self-mill protection!  My only regret is that I never got to use Golos's ability, enabled by the singleton Renowned Weaponsmith
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C-Euro posted:Isn't it PAX this weekend? We should get a few spoilers when Wizards does their PAX panel. There's no PAX panel. Edit: But spoilers start Monday. LifeLynx fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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Aug 31, 2019 22:32
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Seeing as how Historic will never have fetches and WotC is going to push it as the next big format, I'm not sure what the argument for fetches is.
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Aug 31, 2019 22:39
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moush posted:Seeing as how Historic will never have fetches and WotC is going to push it as the next big format, I'm not sure what the argument for fetches is. I’m sorry did you not read the thread recently where mtg was going to kill historic live on screen, in front of its parents, modern and extended
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Aug 31, 2019 22:42
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uggy posted:I’m sorry did you not read the thread recently where mtg was going to kill historic live on screen, in front of its parents, modern and extended Much like how Arena died when they made multiple incredibly anti-consumer decisions? I think they'll run back the lovely 2 for 1 idea and it will become at least moderately successful. The second they print brainstorm into it, I'm sure a lot of people will forget the hate and jam.
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Aug 31, 2019 22:43
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https://twitter.com/Marshall_LR/status/1167875219437932544?s=19
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moush posted:Seeing as how Historic will never have fetches and WotC is going to push it as the next big format, I'm not sure what the argument for fetches is. Did they say never or is this some weird guess? Arena is the easiest place to do fetch lands mechanically. It’s fast as hell.
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They'll end up in standard again eventually too I'm sure.
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