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Sep 1, 2019 15:43
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Sep 1, 2019 15:58
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In b4 it turns out that the AI kept all its ships on the West Coast.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:26
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The Sandman posted:In b4 it turns out that the AI kept all its ships on the West Coast. For him to not encounter any fleets at all this close to Hawaii that's probably the case.
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Sep 1, 2019 16:28
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mercenarynuker posted:Post harder for Pearl Harder 
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Sep 1, 2019 16:35
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This is going to be a hell of a bloody Sunday
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Sep 1, 2019 18:17
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   I continue to show my dominance.   The carriers come into range of the level bombers from Pearl.  The come in wave, after wave.  We gun them down in large numbers.  Though some get through to see our carriers, none land any hits.   We hold here with heavy losses.   Air losses are heavy, but could be worse – and there are no hits on our ships yet. We have sent a note to the Allies detailing an armistice with us holding the territory we have under arms. We shall see how they respond to this.
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Sep 1, 2019 18:30
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X WHERE IS RPT WHERE IS PACOM RR THE WORLD WONDERS
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Sep 1, 2019 18:36
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Sep 1, 2019 18:39
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Brought nothing but zeroes? Or is that just the only plane that does CAP for the carriers.
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Sep 1, 2019 19:01
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We finally get to see the A6M8 in action, the King of the Zeros will have its day  Which is also technically the final day of the war, but still 
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Sep 1, 2019 19:13
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IT BEGINS
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Sep 1, 2019 20:12
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Did the AI move all it’s ships to the Atlantic? Is that even possible? I’m very curious to find out where they’ve been stashed all this time.
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Sep 1, 2019 21:06
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When was the last time we saw an allied carrier?
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Sep 1, 2019 22:03
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Like summer of '44 or something
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Sep 1, 2019 22:12
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Going off the ship database, the last time we saw a US CV was November 26th, 1944 (Essex, spotted near Ponape). Last time we saw a US carrier at all was CVE Corregidor, spotted near Truk on January 18th, 1945. As for the british, we last saw a CV on December 13th, 1944 (Indefatigable, near Guam), and we spotted a pair of CVLs (Hermes and Unicorn) the day before that, near Saipan. Assuming the database is up to date, we haven't seen any allied flattops anywhere in nearly seven months. e. Ah wait, I missed one. CVL Cabot, sunk by torpedoes on May 14th 1945 near Makin. So that makes more than three months with no flattop sighting.. Better than I originally thought. e2. As for what carriers are still afloat, still going off the ship database: The british still have most, if not all, their fleet: CVs Formidable, Illustrious, Indefatigable, and Indomitable, and CVLs Hermes and Unicorn; only Illustrious is assumed sunk, though not confirmed. The US have CVs Essex, Hornet, Intrepid, Lexington II, and Wasp II; Bunker Hill, Enterprise, Franklin, Hornet II, Lexington, Ticonderoga, and Yorktown II are all assumed sunk (not confirmed), and Saratoga, Wasp, and Yorktown are confirmed sunk. As for CVEs and CVLs it's way too late in the evening to count all those, sorry. There are plenty still active though, while quite a few were assumed or confirmed sunk. Mikl fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Sep 1, 2019 |
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Sep 1, 2019 22:34
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Sep 1, 2019 22:44
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BurningStone posted:Did the AI move all it’s ships to the Atlantic? Is that even possible? I’m very curious to find out where they’ve been stashed all this time. It's possible. There are a handful of off-map locations: the East Coast, the Panama Canal (two different hexes), Cape Town, Mombasa, Abadan, Aden, the UK, I think there might be a "Canada" one representing the eastern parts of Canada, maybe one or two more that I'm forgetting. I'm pretty sure it's impossible for the Japanese player or AI to attack these locations, so the Allies could stash stuff there. My guess is the Allied carriers are in San Diego or SF, but really  and they could be anywhere, because the game's AI is unfortunately quite bad.
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I might be mistaking the type of planes used but it seems like the Americans didn't send a single carrier-based plane out today. Maybe it's a range thing and the torpedo bombers can't make it this far out or something but that seems really weird. edit: actually, the Corsairs are carrier-based planes I could be wrong and they've been rebased to airfields instead. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Sep 2, 2019 |
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Sep 1, 2019 23:55
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overmind2000 posted:I might be mistaking the type of planes used but it seems like the Americans didn't send a single carrier-based plane out today. Maybe it's a range thing and the torpedo bombers can't make it this far out or something but that seems really weird. It seems likely that it's all land-based. I would expect to see a few Avengers mixed in there if it was carrier-based.
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Sep 2, 2019 00:48
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Let's have a closer look at my boy the A6M8Wikipedia posted:A6M8 Type 0 Model 64 And also Other website posted:A6M8 (Navy Type 0 Carrier Fighter Model 64)   Oh yeah that's the good poo poo
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Sep 2, 2019 01:11
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still slower than the f6f
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Sep 2, 2019 02:34
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So the Kido Butai has lost ~ 100 planes and the Allies have lost ~ 150. How many CV's do you have at Pearl? All of them? And how many planes at full loads?
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Sep 2, 2019 02:35
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Mycroft Holmes posted:still slower than the f6f If the game allotted for aircraft to be developed near the end of 1945 the variants of the A7M Reppu could have been comparable to that.
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Bold Robot posted:It's possible. There are a handful of off-map locations: the East Coast, the Panama Canal (two different hexes), Cape Town, Mombasa, Abadan, Aden, the UK, I think there might be a "Canada" one representing the eastern parts of Canada, maybe one or two more that I'm forgetting. I'm pretty sure it's impossible for the Japanese player or AI to attack these locations, so the Allies could stash stuff there. My guess is the Allies have their fleet in Sydney to make a push on Rabaul but they can't figure out how to send all of them at once because, as you said "the game's AI is unfortunately quite bad."
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Sep 2, 2019 14:04
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CannonFodder posted:My guess is the Allies have their fleet in Sydney to make a push on Rabaul but they can't figure out how to send all of them at once because, as you said "the game's AI is unfortunately quite bad." Maybe if we send one ship at at a time again.
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Sep 2, 2019 14:12
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overmind2000 posted:If the game allotted for aircraft to be developed near the end of 1945 the variants of the A7M Reppu could have been comparable to that. You can get A7Ms. You just have to actually plan plane research, and it’s a convoluted and tedious mess. By late 1944 some players are fielding A7Ms, and by 1945 some of the more exotic stuff can come online, including rocket and jet models. The J7W shinden, Ki-83 heavy fighter, and other planes can be competitive with the best allied offerings in air combat and sweep roles. But they all suffer from high service ratings, which means they can’t be used at a high rate without days of downtime for maintenance, and Japan has a fixed number of squadrons available to use no matter how well you’ve been doing. So you might have a thousand trained pilots and airframes sitting around, but you can’t use them. In fact, and I’ve mentioned this before, the game forces withdrawal of squadrons that historically were empty irrespective of how the war goes.
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Velius posted:You can get A7Ms. You just have to actually plan plane research, and it’s a convoluted and tedious mess. By late 1944 some players are fielding A7Ms, and by 1945 some of the more exotic stuff can come online, including rocket and jet models. The J7W shinden, Ki-83 heavy fighter, and other planes can be competitive with the best allied offerings in air combat and sweep roles. But they all suffer from high service ratings, which means they can’t be used at a high rate without days of downtime for maintenance, and Japan has a fixed number of squadrons available to use no matter how well you’ve been doing. So you might have a thousand trained pilots and airframes sitting around, but you can’t use them. In fact, and I’ve mentioned this before, the game forces withdrawal of squadrons that historically were empty irrespective of how the war goes. Or it bugs out and drains your political points.
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Sep 2, 2019 14:23
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  Another day hanging around Pearl, and still no sign of a single engine bomber.  Just more Invaders.  Oh, and some Mitchells.  We take another wave of plane losses across China.  I think my carriers may be bugged again – I am going in close tomorrow. Two days of Operation off their main naval base and they have not hit a single carrier at loss. The Allies mull over my demands.
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Sep 2, 2019 18:53
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... At this point I'm expecting the 5th to just be "And then that which sleeps 'neeth Eniwotek devoured them all." as Grey just gives up on any orders going through.
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Sep 2, 2019 21:22
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I think your guys are just too far out from Pearl - looks like 10ish hexes based on the pics. I don't know what the range of late-war IJN aircraft is but if that's in their range at all, that's gotta be at the very limit. Not sure this is an AI issue.
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Sep 2, 2019 21:28
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Someday I will be free of the ship database hell
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Sep 2, 2019 21:42
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Sep 2, 2019 21:43
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Mans posted:did you bring a land force? 
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Mans posted:did you bring a land force? Are you suggesting that we sully our beautiful ships by putting lunkheaded grunts from the ARMY ON THEM??!!!
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Sep 2, 2019 22:16
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Look the Navy got us into this war, and by God they’re going to get us out of it!
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Sep 2, 2019 22:34
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The flat tops are busy, but where are the big guns? According to the list by Jobbo_Fett (thank you) the BBs Hyuga, Ise, and Mutsu are still afloat. And the Hyuga is still up for grabs with one day to go!
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Yeah if you're not sailing battleships directly into Pearl Harbor why do you even have them?
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