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Elyv posted:the real culprit isn't EDH so much as #mtgfinance, considering that godsire is probably garbage even if you build around the theme. Rishadan Brigand is still $3 lmao.
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AlternateNu posted:Don't need to go mono-U, but it isn't unreasonable to just cut red from the deck. It was there almost entirely for Looting. The question is, is Cathartic Reunion enough to warrant keeping red? Do blue/green/black give you a CMC 2 or less looting effect (even if it isn't as big)? Or do you lean harder on straight mill like Tome Scour + discard effects like Brutality and the Innistrad Skabs that come back from the grave? anyone who's had a dredge player cast cathartic reunion against them knows that the card is 100% worth the red splash
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While I'm coming up with terrible ideas, I wish I had NeoBrand so I could test Chancellor of the Annex.
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That deck is still modestly priced for Modern and people play it to success, so it may be a worthy investment.
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little munchkin posted:anyone who's had a dredge player cast cathartic reunion against them knows that the card is 100% worth the red splash Plus the win con for the deck is often conflagrate, which is only cast for value from the graveyard, and this needs two red Mana. You can't trim the red from the deck no matter what. Adding blue seems smarter, since it means that things like narcomeba can be cast from hand instead of being a truly dead card.
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I would rather concede than hardcast a narcomoeba, though I cannot speak for other dredge players.
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Weren't Throne spoilers supposed to start Monday? (I assumed today due to the holiday)
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80s James Hetfield posted:Weren't Throne spoilers supposed to start Monday? (I assumed today due to the holiday) Maro column made it sound like next Monday.
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https://twitter.com/NumotTheNummy/status/1167564424518852608 They (probably) start tomorrow, although I don't think anyone knows what time the stream starts.
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Guh, wish I got some SFMs before they spiked, it's something I'd thought about. The Orzhov and Mardu lists I've seen look fun and my Pyromancer list is banned.
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Sep 3, 2019 18:31
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mossyfisk posted:I would rather concede than hardcast a narcomoeba, though I cannot speak for other dredge players. It's more for prized amalgam, but i think having the option to get it out so it can die, go to the graveyard, then get out on top of your deck via a this is better than just sitting in hand and being dead weight.
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rkajdi posted:It's more for prized amalgam, but i think having the option to get it out so it can die, go to the graveyard, then get out on top of your deck via a this is better than just sitting in hand and being dead weight. Hey dead weight is at least cheap removal.
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Sep 3, 2019 19:13
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Devor posted:My guess is that humans snap up dual-lands because they want to fill out their collection for deck building, so after the first tuning pass bots love them too? Or they might give them high values to reflect a "real" draft experience where real life people are filling out their collection and won't want to pass rare dual lands. It’s neither of these; it’s because they make Good Dual Lands inherently hard to get because then people will buy lots more packs to get them. It’s a way of increasing scarcity in a world where all rare cards theoretically have an equivalent value. I’m not sure they actually said this out loud ever but have certainly come close a few times.
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Sep 3, 2019 19:14
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Devor posted:The guy who designed the system (one of the original hosts of LR, maybe first one? Ryan Spain? Maybe?) was on LR and got into the algorithm some. There's no way the bot pick orders are based off human data, because they keep taking white cards in M20
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Lone Goat posted:There's no way the bot pick orders are based off human data, because they keep taking white cards in M20 Allegedly they took data from MTGO drafts in the past, where maybe taking a white card makes sense since you can be the only white drafter in the pod. Obviously taking data from Arena drafts to tune the Arena bots would be pointless since you're usually railroaded into UB or Temur.
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So the spoiler season officially kicks off tomorrow with the stream, but they refuse to answer anyone's questions about what time it starts. Which makes sense, if you want to use a Twitch stream to start generating hype in order to drive sales of your newest product, the smart move is to not tell anyone when it starts, right?
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Hellsau posted:Allegedly they took data from MTGO drafts in the past, where maybe taking a white card makes sense since you can be the only white drafter in the pod. Yeah, but in the past drafts came out on MTGO before they went live on Arena, and now I think they happen at the same time? Taking white cards to be the sole white drafter only makes sense if you're seeing it's open a few picks in, not slamming Protector Griffin 2nd pick but still passing Raise the Alarm like the bots are doing. Do common print run orders still exist, and does Arena follow them? If so, I could look at draft logs and figure out the what the bots are taking the first couple picks in each pack.
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LifeLynx posted:So the spoiler season officially kicks off tomorrow with the stream, but they refuse to answer anyone's questions about what time it starts. Which makes sense, if you want to use a Twitch stream to start generating hype in order to drive sales of your newest product, the smart move is to not tell anyone when it starts, right? honestly it wouldn't be that surprising if they haven't even decided on a start time yet
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Lone Goat posted:Do common print run orders still exist, and does Arena follow them? If so, I could look at draft logs and figure out the what the bots are taking the first couple picks in each pack. I am not aware that *common* print runs ever existed on Arena, but they got rid of the* uncommon* print runs by M20 (and WAR I think)
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https://twitter.com/screenrant/status/1168962535619514370?s=19 Food token
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If i can't eat the food tokens, magic is over Also im liking the look of oko here
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Kurtofan posted:If i can't eat the food tokens, magic is over Soylent food token.
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Sep 3, 2019 20:15
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Well, definitely bringing some kind of candy or snack to the prerelease to use as food tokens.
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Do not bring edibles to prerelease to use as food tokens
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Kurtofan posted:Do not bring edibles to prerelease to use as food tokens You can't make me.
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Sep 3, 2019 20:19
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Food will be like Treasure and have its attributes defined by the rules of the game rather than the card. That makes it kind of annoying because I can't tell what Food does. It's probably an artifact to work with Oko's other two abilities. Or it could be a creature. How rude of WOTC to change how creating Treasure works so they can use the technology on cards without reminder text.
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Sep 3, 2019 20:20
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Obviously there'll be a card that turns your Food tokens into creatures
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Kurtofan posted:If i can't eat the food tokens, magic is over They're a shapeshifter and instead of having a cool art where they're changing forms or something cool it's just some dude lounging around
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Sep 3, 2019 20:22
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I would totally lounge around tbf Eating food tokens
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Sep 3, 2019 20:23
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The +1 can target any creature or artifact and has an unlimited duration, so you can elk your opponent's darksteel citadel or whatever, as well as making your tiny dudes or mana rocks into emergency elks.
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Sep 3, 2019 20:25
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Eej posted:Obviously there'll be a card that turns your Food tokens into creatures It's this one.
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What a shame that Yargle, Glutton of Urborg is rotating out of standard before food gets printed.
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MAgic the GATHERING is a normal game that makes me holler WHAT IS FOOD WHAT DOES FOOD DO I'm SCREAMING because I just do not know the properties of fFOOD
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Food token sac food token, put two +1/+1 counters on target creature. It becomes fed until end of turn. You gain 1 life. When a creature is fed, remove all damage that has been done to it this turn.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:MAgic the GATHERING is a normal game that makes me holler WHAT IS FOOD WHAT DOES FOOD DO extremely same
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:MAgic the GATHERING is a normal game that makes me holler WHAT IS FOOD WHAT DOES FOOD DO You can elk your food
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Add 🍗
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:emergency elks
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