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Lone Goat posted:not seeing the problem here The slower the format the worse playing against t3feri and field of the dead is going to be
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AnEdgelord posted:The slower the format the worse playing against t3feri and field of the dead is going to be still not seeing the problem here
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Lone Goat posted:still not seeing the problem here then you are lost
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AlternateNu posted:I actually want the round Guilds rug.  looks nice
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AnEdgelord posted:then you are lost you're the one that wants the game to end before turn 4, i'm just looking to play some good ol fashioned magic
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1) so do we have confirmation for how Adventures work? Activated ability, castable from graveyard, castable from hand, or are we just guessing? 2) lmbo goldilocks is a berserker
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:1) so do we have confirmation for how Adventures work? Activated ability, castable from graveyard, castable from hand, or are we just guessing? no idea yet
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Lone Goat posted:you're the one that wants the game to end before turn 4, i'm just looking to play some good ol fashioned magic It has been a very long time since an aggro deck could kill on turn 4 in standard and even if it could that is 400% less miserable than endless grinding t3feri/field mirrors. Especially since neither of those cards are "good", "old fashioned", or "magic". Edit: Also I played control for most of this standard and play uw control in modern. I'm no stranger to long games but these cards make for miserable games of magic and without aggro decks to check that the future of the format sounds awful.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:1) so do we have confirmation for how Adventures work? Activated ability, castable from graveyard, castable from hand, or are we just guessing? My bears on wall are ticking clock BERSERKER Anyone want to try the next line
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AnEdgelord posted:It has been a very long time since an aggro deck could kill on turn 4 in standard and even if it could that is 400% less miserable than endless grinding t3feri/field mirrors. Especially since neither of those cards are "good", "old fashioned", or "magic". There’s more than one aggro deck that can kill on turn 4 in standard right now
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Time posted:There’s more than one aggro deck that can kill on turn 4 in standard right now fine but that doesn't really matter for the rest of my point
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AnEdgelord posted:It has been a very long time since an aggro deck could kill on turn 4 in standard and even if it could that is 400% less miserable than endless grinding t3feri/field mirrors. Especially since neither of those cards are "good", "old fashioned", or "magic". T1 scorcher T2 cavalcade T3 spitfire T4 assorted hasty goblins.
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AnEdgelord posted:fine but that doesn't really matter for the rest of my point the rest of your point was also woefully inaccurate
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Sep 3, 2019 23:50
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I love the promo storybook frame soooo much, I need sets of the Gingerbread one.  Because he has to be one!
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Lone Goat posted:the rest of your point was also woefully inaccurate lmao
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https://twitter.com/MTG_Arena/status/1169022264182038531/photo/1
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So I guess it's more like monstrous? That cars doesn't make much sense unless you can use both halves
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cheetah7071 posted:So I guess it's more like monstrous? That cars doesn't make much sense unless you can use both halves it makes plenty of sense if you can't use both halves, it's called a downside
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Lone Goat posted:it makes plenty of sense if you can't use both halves, it's called a downside Didn't realize the mana cost was so low at first you're probably right
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The Beast in love with a Thopter. Also, "Noble" is a creature type now? dragon enthusiast posted:she's clearly a bearzerker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg2LZ4AwyEU
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that makes me think you can't use both sides because that card would be fairly nuts if you could. "G: make a 1/1" is a fairly gross repeatable effect to tack onto a 3 mana 5/5 (even one that can't attack most of the time but can still block). i think they're probably sorcery/creature split cards; the sorcery half resolves and goes to the yard like a normal sorcery, the creature once resolved effectively doesn't have the adventure text box.
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Saw this in the cEDH discord, and I want it. >_>
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:that makes me think you can't use both sides because that card would be fairly nuts if you could. "G: make a 1/1" is a fairly gross repeatable effect to tack onto a 3 mana 5/5 (even one that can't attack most of the time but can still block). i think they're probably sorcery/creature split cards; the sorcery half resolves and goes to the yard like a normal sorcery, the creature once resolved effectively doesn't have the adventure text box. Agreed G for a 1/1 is too good to be repeatable but it's so clearly set up to use the adventure side I'm convinced you'll be able to go adventure then cast from exile.
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Finally a 'back to basics' set, where based on the card alone we can only speculate as to how it actually functions
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AlternateNu posted:The Beast in love with a Thopter. Also, "Noble" is a creature type now? Tale as old as time Song as old as rhyme Saproling and the Beast
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evilweasel posted:also apparently they've got a new euphemism for "not tanking the price of the secondary market" Where is this quote from because lol
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Sep 4, 2019 00:37
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The flavor on the beauty and the beast card owns
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Eej posted:Tale as old as time tremendous
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is it a failure of design that we can only speculate to how adventures work without the instruction manual? maybe the regular editions will have reminder text?
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Rinkles posted:is it a failure of design that we can only speculate to how adventures work without the instruction manual? Those are the promo frames. I would be surprised if the standard ones didn’t have reminder text.
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I bet the commons will have reminder text. Possibly their creature halves will all be vanilla to fit it
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I get the feeling that it can be reused, but since it's a spell (and?) an activated ability, it can be countered. So maybe that's the "downside" since activated abilities don't have quite as many counters otherwise.
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i'm tending towards non repeatable activated ability (a la monstrous), that counts as a spell
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Rinkles posted:i'm tending towards non repeatable activated ability (a la monstrous), that counts as a spell
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I wonder if it's going to be part of the story for the set that the fairy tales are all a little off. Goldilocks makes bears instead of killing them, the beast gets more aggressive when beauty is around, and so on.
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i honestly think it's just a creature/spell split card because too many of the other options make the beauty and the beast card absolutely bugfuck nuts. if it's an activated ability it's the best one they've printed on a creature since stoneforge if it's an aftermath style card it's a hyper-efficient beater that basically always two-for-ones your opponent even if it's an activated ability you can only use once it's busted for the above reasons combined. plus the last two times they did that (monstrous, renown) they used +1/+1 counters to solve the "memory issues" problem, and neither of the cards we've seen do that, so it's very very unlikely that that's how it works. also activated abilities don't have names. so my guess is it's a split card; you can cast it as a sorcery, in which case it resolves as a sorcery and goes to your yard, wherein it is both a creature and a sorcery. or you can cast it as a creature, in which case its "adventure" text box is blank.
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It's going to be like forecast
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My guess is that it’s a spell you cast while the permanent it’s attached to is in play, requiring you to either tap it, discard a card, or both as an additional cost.
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It can't be an activated ability because that would be stupid and if it's a split card than the card is beauty or the beast which is clearly a flavor fail
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