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DaveSauce posted:Traffic is a problem because of human drivers doing stupid poo poo. True the volume won't change, but it will be massively more efficient if every car on the road is communicating with each other and planning its route in coordination with every other car. lol
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Autonomous vehicles are a bandaid. We need to figure out teleporters yesterday. I'm perfectly ok being murdered at home and reborn at the grocery store or wherever. Bonus points if the lovely computer gives me an extra limb or does a gender swap for one whacky day.
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DaveSauce posted:if every car on the road is communicating with each other and planning its route in coordination with every other car. That's a thing that is entirely beyond the basic prospect of autonomous cars. There are days when my car won't even communicate with my phone. If your scheme requires all the other cars from all the different car manufacturers running different software from different manufacturers, probably only several percent of which are actually patched to the latest version, to communicate with each other for basic navigation, your scheme is not going to work. Software sucks. The IoT sucks. What you describe is a pipe dream for venture capitalists. Hell, I want to see four autonomous cars, from four different companies, show up at a four way stop at the same time and figure out who moves first.
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Phanatic posted:Hell, I want to see four autonomous cars, from four different companies, show up at a four way stop at the same time and figure out who moves first. I'd like to see four people manage this. Minority Report style self driving cars ASAP please
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Sep 3, 2019 21:46
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The real solution to traffic is not having people commuting an hour+ each way for their job so they can afford a 4,000 sqft house in the middle of nowhere, suburbia. I live 4 miles from downtown in a I love seeing news articles about boomers not being able to sell their mcmansion ranches in the country because nobody under 50 wants them.
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If you’re in my market it’s more like commuting an hour so you can afford an 800sqft apartment with roommates, the Bay Area is even worse. CO and CA are BWM.
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Barry posted:I'd like to see four people manage this. There is a short 10-20 sec Canadian standoff until they figure out who is the most That said, long commutes from exburbs or boomburbs are BWL. I would love to see them disappear for a less car based arrangement.
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sleepy gary posted:Assault Rifles 15.
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Phanatic posted:That's a thing that is entirely beyond the basic prospect of autonomous cars. There are days when my car won't even communicate with my phone. If your scheme requires all the other cars from all the different car manufacturers running different software from different manufacturers, probably only several percent of which are actually patched to the latest version, to communicate with each other for basic navigation, your scheme is not going to work. Software sucks. The IoT sucks. What you describe is a pipe dream for venture capitalists.
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Sep 3, 2019 22:00
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Dik Hz posted:Running late? Just spoof your car to look like an ambulance.
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Eric the Mauve posted:My favorite conversation to have with almost everyone goes roughly like this:
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Splicer posted:I read a thing where a survey on how autonomous vehicles should handle the suicide trolley problem changed dramatically depending on whether they questions said "a self driving car" or "your self driving car" "We absolutely guarantee that our latest model will choose your life over anyone else's, even innocent children"
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Sep 3, 2019 22:39
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GamingHyena posted:Automated networked vehicles will be a massive national security issue because you’re centralizing your entire transportation system down to one point of failure. Given America’s lackluster willingness to secure critical infrastructure I can’t imagine we will be any better when it comes to autonomous vehicles. Of course there’s also the massive privacy issue of who controls the data about where you’re driving but given we already live in a panopticon of mobile devices real time driver info will likely seem quaint in comparison. Plus the electromagnetic spectrum requirements would be insane to coordinate, and could be shut down by any rear end in a top hat with a low power jammer built with $50 worth of off-the-shelf components. e. not trying to be a naysayer as I'd love to see an answer to the problem, but am not smart enough to know what it is myself. Guest2553 fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Sep 3, 2019 |
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Guest2553 posted:Plus the electromagnetic spectrum requirements would be insane to coordinate, and could be shut down by any rear end in a top hat with a low power jammer built with $50 worth of off-the-shelf components. So now instead of running over pedestrians because the sun was in your eyes, your car could run them over because sunspots.
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sleepy gary posted:Assault Rifles 15. On a lighter note, have some GWM warm fuzzies to break up the usual BWM gloom in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/czbmyd/i_dont_know_what_to_do_with_money/ posted:I'm a 21 year old young lady and I have 20k saved. What do I do? Do I invest it? What even is investing? Should I start a retirement fund? A Roth IRA is best I think? I have a job and my boyfriend doesn't currently, I also have had a car for most of our relationship and he doesn't. Is it selfish of me to cut him off from my finances since I want to get on a much stricter budget? How do I meal plan? Should I stock the family pantry or should I only buy myself food? I'm on a different page then everyone else in my life. No one else seems to have a savings or any financial health so I don't have anyone to question or have give guidance. My dad tries to but we've always been broke so I can't imagine his advice is real. I'm doing fine on my own but I think I'd really be doing amazing with some advice. Thanks again.
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Sirotan posted:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/26/pay-off-your-student-loans-in-three-easy-lifetimes This got lost in car chat, but thank you for sharing this. I wonder what I'm gonna come back as.
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Oh man, 90 posts. I bet something really hilarious got posted! Oh. Nope.
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Residency Evil posted:Oh man, 91 posts. I bet something really hilarious got posted!
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I tried, but the derail bird didn't work and /r/pf is kinda thin today.
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Dig deep for what we missed....I should have thought of this sooner. How do you live with tough financial choices? (self.personalfinance) submitted 26 days ago * by keket87 quote:I'm in debt. Like a lot of it. $79k in student loans ($52k at 3.75% and 17k at 0%). I also have about $35k in unsecured consumer debt ($7200 at 21%, $900 at 20% and $9200 at 0% for another 2 months). Before you all jump on me, yes, I now have a budget that I stick to and I've learned my lesson about living within my means, but I still have to deal with the debt. I have about $2500 in savings/RRSP/TFSA accounts, which I don't contribute to right now. I have not been able to get a consolidation loan because of the debt load that I already have.
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Residency Evil posted:Oh man, 90 posts. I bet something really hilarious got posted! No offense, but this post, the empty post, and the two birds were the only bad posts in the past 90. The self driving car chat was super interesting. Humans are wired to be frustrated when they see Rules Get Broken, but there is no need to backseat mod when there's good conversation going 
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Here solve the trolley problem for the car. http://moralmachine.mit.edu/
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:No offense, but this post, the empty post, and the two birds were the only bad posts in the past 90. The self driving car chat was super interesting. You are probably interested in this because you hadn't already lived out this entire day in the tech nightmare thread, which is a much better place to discuss it.
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itskage posted:Here solve the trolley problem for the car. OK this is a VERY cool link, wow. I thought each dilemma had a pretty obvious "correct" answer until 12 and 13 (of 13) which made me uncomfortably aware of my biases in earlier questions. Yikes!
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Moneyball posted:I told you not to talk about me on here drat son this used to be bannable
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Motronic posted:You are probably interested in this because you hadn't already lived out this entire day in the tech nightmare thread, which is a much better place to discuss it. It’s a “much better place” if you want a circle jerk by people who know nothing about tech (beyond being mindless consumers of it) but feel qualified to debate its finer points. Like, seriously, the tech nightmare thread is the D&D Left’s (but I repeat myself) version of MAGA-style tech-hate. It’s equally lovely and embarrassing.
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In the next 5 years automated posting bots will drag threads off topic without human intervention. I like these titles: https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/cyttl1/should_i_refinance_my_62_month_auto_loan_at_219/ posted:Should I refinance my 62 month auto loan at 21.9% interest to a 72 month loan at 3.99%? https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/cscs2j/i_make_1800mo_just_bought_a_22k_car/ posted:I make $1800/mo & just bought a 22k car https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/ctgjpz/first_auto_loan_does_20_interest_sound_right/ posted:First Auto Loan, does 20% interest sound right? https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/cywraj/got_two_car_repossession_on_my_record_but_got/ posted:Got two car repossession on my record. But got approved from Carvana for a 26% apr and $700 down. What options do I have for getting a car?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:OK this is a VERY cool link, wow. Well what the hell were your biases?
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I killed a bunch of cats, apparently, which is weird since I really like cats.
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I apparently saved a bunch of old ladies. I could never bring myself to pick a change of course to hit another group. Something about deciding who dies and changing course to accomplish that doesn't sit right with me. Although I had the car commit seppuku every time.
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itskage posted:Here solve the trolley problem for the car. y'all missed the kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cyanideandhappiness/trial-by-trolley
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I never saw a single cat but had lots of dogs, I'm guessing it's pseudo-randomly generated? All else being equal I'd opt to kill the car as well. Step into the death trap, don't be surprised when  e. Hieronymous Alloy posted:y'all missed the kickstarter quote:$3,538,065
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Moneyball posted:I apparently saved a bunch of old ladies. I could never bring myself to pick a change of course to hit another group. Something about deciding who dies and changing course to accomplish that doesn't sit right with me. Although I had the car commit seppuku every time. I swerved a lot to show that I made an effort in a bad situation that doesn't have a right answer. Resulted in killing a lot of old ladies and saved a lot of kids. Except the cats. gently caress the cats.
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Guest2553 posted:I never saw a single cat but had lots of dogs, I'm guessing it's pseudo-randomly generated? One of my scenarios had a self driving car with three dogs and no other occupants. Cool doggos goin for a ride. TraderStav posted:
 
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StormDrain posted:Well what the hell were your biases? The questions are vague. For example: are those people in the crosswalk jaywalking? Is anyone watching?
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Watch like Singapore or something make a law where everything is required to be fully autonomous and car deaths drop to nearly 0 and it pays for itself with efficiency boosts due to not having any more crashes or traffic and then everyone else goes "well ya know over in Asia the cars drive themselves! why don't we have that uh hyuck" but it never actually gets implemented anywhere else because the government is owned by lobbyists and inside business deals then a few years later you're getting your rear end whipped for spray painting an autonomous car in the United States of Singaporhea
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Phanatic posted:The questions are vague. For example: are those people in the crosswalk jaywalking? Is anyone watching? It always specified whether the pedestrians were crossing with a Walk or a Don't Walk sign. I'm not sure what to think of "Is anyone watching" since this is supposed to be your opinion of the most moral choice, not "what would you do". But.. there are survivors (albeit not always human) in every scenario, and it is reasonable to assume that the car would have records of the event. You'd get along well with my coworker. He said this website was dumb because it doesn't specify the model of car, type of seatbelts, number of airbags, or the material of the barrier, which might significantly influence the fatality rate of the car passengers.
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How far are we from the decelerating, car-filling gel from Demolition Man? I'm short and have to sit dangerously close to the airbag as things stand right now.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:In the next 5 years automated posting bots will drag threads off topic without human intervention. Sure why not Cool story bro Wtf I got approved for a 8.9% loan with a job offer letter, where tf do these first time car buyers go? ‘02 Mitsubishi Galant
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